Penguins were on the verge of bankruptcy and relocation with an empty arena and hardly any fans going to their games. Then behind the scenes 3 lottery balls were supposedly spun in a globe that NONE of us were able to view on tv and miraculously the Penguins won the draft and the rights to Sidney Crosby. I remember thinking this was fixed at the time and I still believe it. I'm sure people will respond with your crazy and blah blah blah but think about it. What better way to save a franchise than by doing this. I definetly believe this is what happened.
So how many agree that the 2005 NHL draft was fixed for the Penguins
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Wow, I've never heard this argument before. This is great. Keep the posts coming!
source?
at least recently, every NHL team sends someone to witness the ping pong balls being drawn.. let alone an accounting firm that the league brings in.
Dr Jan Itor
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No need to get defensive, you got Crosby, Malkin, and 3 Stanley Cups, who even cares if this was the case; there is no way to know. Pens fans get the last laugh.
look it up...for the first time since 1980 it was not open to the public...it was all done behind the scenes..no one was able to witness it
Empoleon8771
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Get your logic out of here!!!!!!!!!!
There is so much wrong with this conspiracy theory that it doesn't even deserve a serious rebuttal.
Dr Jan Itor
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The lottery is tied into their reputation.
f*** it up and who know what the consequences would/could be.
the draft lottery is never open to the public
find me a source that says no teams witnessed the event
Ernst and Young is the accounting firm that audits the NHL lottery process. Their revenues last year were 31 billion (with a B) dollars. Do you think this company with almost 8 times the revenue as the NHL would risk their reputation (and licensure) to help an NHL franchise? Especially the way Arthur Anderson went down for Enron three years before the draft?
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Heading into the lottery people were thinking it was going to be rigged for the Rangers a la Patrick Ewing. Not a single person had this theory about Pittsburgh prior to the fact. Makes me think it was going to be a conspiracy theory for whoever won the lottery by jealous fans - inevitable considering every team had a shot at him that year.
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If they didn't send Matthews to Arizona, then it's tough to think anything is rigged.
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Didn't the Penguins have as high a chance as anyone that draft? There were like two other teams that had the same chance and everyone else lower. Why is it odd that a team with the best chances won?
It wasn't like they jumped up over a bunch of teams them winning was as likely a result or more than any other team winning.
Also, people do realize the NHL isn't some independent agency that works on its own, it is made up of the 30 NHL teams. Why does Bettman screw over the other 29 (of which at least 25 if not all 29 are more powerful) to help Pittsburgh? If any other owner heard that Bettman is out of a job for life, if not facing much more severe punishments. And he is doing all this to save Pittsburgh? A (at that time) negative revenue small-ish city?
There is zero doubt if they are fixing that draft that Crosby is going to New York or Toronto. Those are the powerful clubs, those are markets where the NHL (owners and GB) actually could make money off the marketing opportunities and TV contracts.
It is such a ridiculous theory that makes sense on zero levels and is even more silly because it was a very reasonable outcome of a non-rigged draft.
It wasn't like they jumped up over a bunch of teams them winning was as likely a result or more than any other team winning.
Also, people do realize the NHL isn't some independent agency that works on its own, it is made up of the 30 NHL teams. Why does Bettman screw over the other 29 (of which at least 25 if not all 29 are more powerful) to help Pittsburgh? If any other owner heard that Bettman is out of a job for life, if not facing much more severe punishments. And he is doing all this to save Pittsburgh? A (at that time) negative revenue small-ish city?
There is zero doubt if they are fixing that draft that Crosby is going to New York or Toronto. Those are the powerful clubs, those are markets where the NHL (owners and GB) actually could make money off the marketing opportunities and TV contracts.
It is such a ridiculous theory that makes sense on zero levels and is even more silly because it was a very reasonable outcome of a non-rigged draft.
Dr Jan Itor
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My team ended up 4 spots away from #1. It'll be the greatest "what if" in my franchise's history until I expire.
I think that there is a 0% chance that it was rigged.
The 2005 draft lottery wasn't with the numbered ping pong balls. Instead, each team had a specific number of ping pong balls.
You don't think teams were given the opportunity to check that they had each of their ping pong balls in the machine? That 29 teams didn't notice every single ping pong ball was Pittsburgh's?
There's a lot the league can do to fix things for a certain team.. but rigging the lottery isn't really one of them.
You don't think teams were given the opportunity to check that they had each of their ping pong balls in the machine? That 29 teams didn't notice every single ping pong ball was Pittsburgh's?
There's a lot the league can do to fix things for a certain team.. but rigging the lottery isn't really one of them.
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I mean it does say only the 20 top prospects attended. Not sure if they mean team representative too.
NBA has the same theme the year Ewing was drafted 1st overall to the the Knicks....
NBA has the same theme the year Ewing was drafted 1st overall to the the Knicks....
without Pittsburgh winning that draft the team would of went into bankruptcy and either folded or most likely moved out of Pittsburgh ...that is why Bettman fixed it..to save their franchise
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