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Jussi said:
I haven't watched the remakes and in fact in many cases haven't even watched the original. But, Aladdin and Lion King were successful, both critically and financially. Even The Little Mermaid ended up making profit due to having good legs (pun intended). Though not Disney, the upcoming live action How To Train Your Dragon (another one I haven't watched), which is being shown at CinemaCon this week, is apparently a shot-for-shot remake, yet people seem to be excited for it.
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I don't mind a remake* if thought and effort are put into it and it comes out good. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

I DO mind if they take a classic movie, do nothing but rewrite the plot to fit their fake social agenda that they pretend to care about for money, take a steaming shit on the original and those that love it, and don't put any effort into making an actual good movie.



*there are some franchises for which this is an exception, but now Snow White
 
Jussi said:
I haven't watched the remakes and in fact in many cases haven't even watched the original. But, Aladdin and Lion King were successful, both critically and financially. Even The Little Mermaid ended up making profit due to having good legs (pun intended). Though not Disney, the upcoming live action How To Train Your Dragon (another one I haven't watched), which is being shown at CinemaCon this week, is apparently a shot-for-shot remake, yet people seem to be excited for it.
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Yeah, but the ones you listed were 90's IPs, so grown ups that grew up on them now want to take their kids to see the remakes. This was my feeling when they recently announced a live-action Stitch.

Snow White was waaaay too outdated (in both original release date and the story), and I doubt there's been any connection between current audiences and the original IP.

Just a dumb decision from the beginning
 
I find it funny that the uncanny valley dwarves are CGI but you also have a real person that suffers from dwarfism in the movie for some reason.

Peter Dinklage is also a big hypocrite who made money thanks to his condition and is now stopping others from getting roles. It's not like the dwarves in Snow White only exist as a joke like Verne Troyer in a Mike Myers movie. Using real actors would have been much better than what we got.
 
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PeteWorrell said:
I find it funny that the uncanny valley dwarves are CGI but you also have a real person that suffers from dwarfism in the movie for some reason.

Peter Dinklage is also a big hypocrite who made money thanks to his condition and is now stopping others from getting roles. It's not like the dwarves in Snow White only exist as a joke like Verne Troyer in a Mike Myers movie. Using real actors would have been much better than what we got.
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What's ironic is that Disney capitulated to his concerns that little people playing dwarves would reinforce stereotypes, only to create CGI dwarves that still reinforce those stereotypes (perhaps more so than before, with how they're more cartoonish and ugly than real actors would've been).
 
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Osprey said:
What's ironic is that Disney capitulated to his concerns that little people playing dwarves would reinforce stereotypes, only to create CGI dwarves that still reinforce those stereotypes (perhaps more so than before, with how they're more cartoonish and ugly than real actors would've been).
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I've heard from one of the Youtubers, either Harloff or Mama's Geeky, who saw the movie that they're apparently not technically "dwarves" but "magical creatures", hence the appearance.
 
PeteWorrell said:
I find it funny that the uncanny valley dwarves are CGI but you also have a real person that suffers from dwarfism in the movie for some reason.

Peter Dinklage is also a big hypocrite who made money thanks to his condition and is now stopping others from getting roles. It's not like the dwarves in Snow White only exist as a joke like Verne Troyer in a Mike Myers movie. Using real actors would have been much better than what we got.
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Big time hypocrite. He made a ton of money playing a dwarf. Let's be honest, midgets will never get any leading rolls in a movie. Sometimes you have to take any part to pay the bills and because of him, 7 people lost jobs.
 
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Juve said:
Big time hypocrite. He made a ton of money playing a dwarf. Let's be honest, midgets will never get any leading rolls in a movie. Sometimes you have to get any part to pay the bills and because of him, 7 people lost jobs.
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100%. These could've been 7 life changing rolls as one of the Dwarfs.
 
I'm glad it sucks because I hate how unoriginal Hollywood is now. That being said, even at 5 years of age I thought the original was a lame boring movie. For classic Disney movies I liked Peter Pan, Robin Hood, The Fox and The Hound, The Jungle Book, Dumbo, 101 Dalmatians, The Lady and The Tramp all better off the top of my head. I do also find it a bit funny how upset grown men are about this remake although in some cases I think there's an ulterior motive.
 
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Jussi said:
I've heard from one of the Youtubers, either Harloff or Mama's Geeky, who saw the movie that they're apparently not technically "dwarves" but "magical creatures", hence the appearance.
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That may be what Disney is calling them now, thanks to Dinklage, but there's no doubt that they're the dwarves from the animated movie. They have the same names, characteristics and appearances.

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Osprey said:
That may be what Disney is calling them now, thanks to Dinklage, but there's no doubt that they're the dwarves from the animated movie. They have the same names, characteristics and appearances.

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They don't call them dwarves because it's an outdated and offensive term just like the term midget. They're just people who are short. Magical creatures is much more appropriate based on how they're portrayed.
 
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DaaaaB's said:
They don't call them dwarves because it's an outdated and offensive term just like the term midget. They're just people who are short. Magical creatures is much more appropriate based on how they're portrayed.
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"Dwarf" isn't an outdated or offensive term, according to the Little People of America's website FAQ, which says, "Such terms as dwarf, little person, LP, and person of short stature are all acceptable, but most people would rather be referred to by their name than by a label" (link). "Dwarfism" is also the official medical term for the condition that they have. That probably has some to do with their acceptance of it. They also wouldn't be upset with Dinklage or filing a discrimination lawsuit against Disney if they wanted to distance themselves from the term or the story. Besides, fantasy dwarves aren't just people that are short. They're a different race. They don't need to be renamed just because some people can't separate fantasy from reality.
 
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"Dwarf" isn't an outdated or offensive term. The Little People of America's own website FAQ says that "Such terms as dwarf, little person, LP, and person of short stature are all acceptable, but most people would rather be referred to by their name than by a label" (link). "Dwarfism" is also the official medical term for the condition that they have. That probably has some to do with their acceptance of it. Also, their community wouldn't be upset with Dinklage or filing a discrimination lawsuit against Disney if they wanted to distance themselves from the term or the dwarves in the story. Speaking of which, fantasy dwarves are different than real-life people with dwarfism. The former shouldn't be renamed just because some people can't separate fantasy from reality.
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Oh it's definitely offensive as almost any one of them will tell you. I figured you would throw out the Dwarfism medical term argument so it's safe to assume you refer to people with diabetes, ALS, MS, cancer etc by their condition too? And obviously fantasy dwarves were created because people thought "little people" were comical beings.

It doesn't offend me but if you think it doesn't offend actual "little people" then you're out of touch with reality. Christ, Mickey from Seinfeld said it was offensive 30 years ago.
 
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DaaaaB's said:
Oh it's definitely offensive as almost any one of them will tell you. I figured you would throw out the Dwarfism medical term argument so it's safe to assume you refer to people with diabetes, ALS, MS, cancer etc by their condition too? And obviously fantasy dwarves were created because people thought "little people" were comical beings.

It doesn't offend me but if you think it doesn't offend actual "little people" then you're out of touch with reality. Christ, Mickey from Seinfeld said it was offensive 30 years ago.
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I cited the website of Little People of America, which represents that community here in the US, and your counter evidence is something that a sitcom character once said? Wait. Is this an April Fool's joke? If so, you got me.
 
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