Slovan Bratislava 2014/2015 season talk - Part II

[Dueling Banjos]

Looks like i found useful adress: http://www.zimnystadion.sk/rozpis

Sorry mods, please leave this up until some of local guys answers this and then feel free to delete my last 2 posts, thanks.

 

[Killion]

^^^ No problem.

 

[penepi]

http://sport.sme.sk/clanok.asp?cl=7797290&bk=1539020

This article states as a clear thing that Slovan is questionable, and Medveščak ends.

 

[kulenova seka]

http://sport.sme.sk/clanok.asp?cl=7797290&bk=1539020

This article states as a clear thing that Slovan is questionable, and Medveščak ends.

I am interesting to hear more from croatian members on this forum who told me that I have "wrong" sources when I said Medvescak won't play KHL next season.

 

[loppa*]

That's so delusional. The article says NOTHING concrete with little to no details about anything. I conclude that it is not relevant nor important.

As for you, K.S., non croatian members were also annoyed by your dogmatic insistence that MEdvescak is done with the KHL. Sure, it's a possibility as much as there is a possibility that the team will have the biggest budget in the KHL. The world is full of possibilities.

 

[penepi]

I am not trying to claim or convince anyone that it must be 100% true. But if you once cannot speak Slovak then do not try to be a smartass... Again, I do not say that it is true but saying that article says "NOTHING concrete" is just your lie and only thing which is delusional here. It literally says that Medveščak has ended whereas Slovan is questionable.

 

[Faterson]

He has a point, though. It's SME, frequent disseminator of nonsense. That guy Gajdoš can be pretty erratic, too – could have been a simple brain fart on his part. Also, what does Tretyak have to do with the KHL? As far as I'm aware, Tretyak frequently needs to fight the KHL, so that it respects the needs of Russia's national team. Tretyak would be the last person I'd query about KHL news. It's possible Gajdoš doesn't realize that, and he may be thinking: "Well, Tretyak is the top Russian hockey official, so he must have all the lowdown on the KHL, right?"

 

[penepi]

http://sport.sme.sk/c/7797869/slovan-mieri-do-slovenskej-extraligy.html

The vicepresident stated we will play Extraliga unless anything happens till Friday. Well...

 

[slovakiasnextone]

http://sport.sme.sk/c/7797869/slovan-mieri-do-slovenskej-extraligy.html

The vicepresident stated we will play Extraliga unless anything happens till Friday. Well...

What could happen? Will daddy dearest send him some pocket money from the Bahamas?

Right now it looks like Slovan playing in the KHL next season would be even more shocking than Slovakia making it to the QF of this year's Worlds.

 

[Faterson]

Given that the main topic of Slovakia's non-sports, general headline news over the last few weeks were invoice-payment/near-bankruptcy struggles for the Slovan owner's highway construction corporation, it would be surprising for Slovan to stay in the KHL. The KHL has the image of being an expensive plaything. But you really only have time for playing if your main business is thriving, instead of involving your country's government and parliament in emergency rescue measures on behalf of small business owners and contractors whose invoices can't get paid because the construction corporation just doesn't have the money to pay the invoices.

 

[loppa*]

Given that the main topic of Slovakia's non-sports, general headline news over the last few weeks were invoice-payment/near-bankruptcy struggles for the Slovan owner's highway construction corporation, it would be surprising for Slovan to stay in the KHL. The KHL has the image of being an expensive plaything. But you really only have time for playing if your main business is thriving, instead of involving your country's government and parliament in emergency rescue measures on behalf of small business owners and contractors whose invoices can't get paid because the construction corporation just doesn't have the money to pay the invoices.

Then put the ****er in jail and organize the finding of a new owner for the team? Is it that hard?

 

[Faterson]

You have a delightfully idealistic idea of how things work in post-Communist countries.

 

[slovakiasnextone]

Then put the ****er in jail and organize the finding of a new owner for the team? Is it that hard?

This is a post-socialist country in CEE we're talking about, so of course it is.

Even IF by some miracle the Slovak authorities decided to put him into jail, he'd be long gone off to the Bahamas before he were caught.

 

[Jussi]

Then put the ****er in jail and organize the finding of a new owner for the team? Is it that hard?

You can't exactly force someone to sell the team. He'll sell when he has to and to whom he wants to.

 

[penepi]

http://www.slovanpositive.com/sumy-o-navrate-extraligy-nepotvrdene-khl-je-stale-v-hre/

And this article amongst other things says that chances between KHL and SVK League are still 50%50, and that comments of that Široký guy are just his personal opinion (stated by marketing director of the club).
Ladies and gentleman, prepare your popcorn, enjoy and have a fun.

 

[Faterson]

The article also says Slovan doesn't need to make a decision until this Friday, but that end of May is OK (if Slovan still decided to return to the Slovak league).

 

[loppa*]

You have a delightfully idealistic idea of how things work in post-Communist countries.

No, but when a regime has the guts they can put the oligarch in jail and confiscate their property. Of course, this is a rare occurrence, having happened in Russia when some oligarch was not in compliance to the government.

But, if it has been done before it can be done again? Even in crazy Ukraine they managed to overturn one shady deal of one oligarch, after that orange revolution, but again, it was a matter of a guy who the regime did not like.

So, if it has been done before it surely can be done again. The only question is do the authorities have the balls to do so? Almost everyone with BIG money in eastern europe has come to that money through illegal activities in the transition from so called socialism... there is potential for a lot of stuff to be recouped there, including the saving of Slovan from this equivalent of an absentee landlord.

 

[penepi]

No, but when a regime has the guts they can put the oligarch in jail and confiscate their property. Of course, this is a rare occurrence, having happened in Russia when some oligarch was not in compliance to the government.

But, if it has been done before it can be done again? Even in crazy Ukraine they managed to overturn one shady deal of one oligarch, after that orange revolution, but again, it was a matter of a guy who the regime did not like.

So, if it has been done before it surely can be done again. The only question is do the authorities have the balls to do so? Almost everyone with BIG money in eastern europe has come to that money through illegal activities in the transition from so called socialism... there is potential for a lot of stuff to be recouped there, including the saving of Slovan from this equivalent of an absentee landlord.

Of course they don't since the guy is considered one of the main sponsors of the (only) governing party.

 

[penepi]

http://www.slovanpositive.com/o-buducnosti-slovana-bude-podla-stanoviska-klubu-jasno-v-juni/

End of June, what did I say?

 

[geri]

http://www.slovanpositive.com/o-buducnosti-slovana-bude-podla-stanoviska-klubu-jasno-v-juni/

End of June, what did I say?

http://www.hcslovan.sk/sk/spravy/definitiva-o-buducej-sezone-v-juni/

yes, this i also had in mind, but end of june is really very late..
not for the decison itselve, as we know russian and slovak mentality
but what makes me more concerned, what about the players?
as they also must decide there future it is difficult for them too wait, as in the worst scenario when Sk extraliga ist really to be played, those players are too good...
and end of june then looking for another KHL team to get playing is the question..??

 

[penepi]

Well, I am starting to believe that the possibility of not starting at all next season is becoming very serious and real.

 

[Faterson]

To clarify, penepi is kidding.

 

[penepi]

To clarify, penepi is kidding.

No I am not.

 

[Faterson]

Well, of course Slovan will play the next season, even if it were juniors in the Slovak league. Let's not make a comedy out of this board; some people are actually using it to gather information.

 

[penepi]

To keep this seious, safe your personal feelings please. I do never troll or anything. Of course it is more likely we will start somewhere but with this idiotic management and their style of work I wouldn't be surprised if we will not, and they will just state they had put their best effort into it, however there is no time in the end of June after not being accepted into KHL.