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Mike Danton served a lot more time than Craig McTavish did for a crime that resulted in no one getting harmed physically.
Intent is pretty damn important
Intent is pretty damn important
The difference is that most aren't public figures making millions of dollars.
There is also a huge difference between the "breaking point" of one person and the other.
This person chose to set an awful example as a role model and as a civilized person in society.
I can assure you that although we all have a breaking point , most of us will never beat their spouse bloody.
Assuming all events are equivalent is absolutely ridiculous and only serves to make light of domestic violence.
It's no surprise that most that want him "forgiven" are older and come from a different mentality.
This is not acceptable or tolerable in 2018 and doesn't improve the overall NHL product.
As I said, it is manifestly not. Different definitions. You can argue he still should have never gotten an NHL job again if you want, but it wasn't murder. I also live in Massachusetts and have my whole life. I remember the story well, as I was a kid when it happened. It was a horrible thing.Drunk driving = murder
he may have made a mistake but he is not a good man lmao.And he paid his price. People make mistakes. We live in a society where rehabilitation back into society is a thing. He's a good man who made a mistake and will live with that mark for the rest of his life but he still deserves a chance. We don't live in a world where people are just hanged by the highest tree for committing mistakes. There's a reason jail exists and we don't just have death penalties for everything.
Leafs wouldn't touch him if he was Bobby Orr. Anyone who thinks so has ignored everything the Leafs have said and done over the past 3 years. They want good people first and are one of the most progressive organizations in hockey.
People absolutely love Dogs... like obsessed
**** up dogs and people start a mutiny
Mike Vick played football again
LmfaoMatthews would likely injure his shoulder
Dany Heatley killed his best friend...... Only slick lawyers and plea bargains saved him from a vehicular homicide conviction(which he was guilty of). How many games did he get?Voynov’s was a LOT worse, so it’s only semi comparable. You can’t just lump everything together regardless of severity. I mean, there’s a big difference between getting roughing for punching a guy in a scrum, and a Bertuzzi/Moore incident. Both are punching someone, yet they’re really not the same thing. Same for this. Watson pushing his drunk, belligerent girlfriend isn’t the same as Voynov punching and kicking his wife and then smashing her head into a TV.
Lol Bobby Orr.
If he really learned from this mistake I'd take him on Vancouver. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance
Not his agent but he stated in an earlier post that he was a friend of the family.Wow are you Voynov's agent? He's a "good man?" I guess you're entitled to your opinion but many would probably disagree.
Your post is pretty absurd, no one is saying Voynov should be given the death penalty for what he did. Playing in the nhl should be a privilege, not a right. It's up to the organization to decide what kind of people they want to employ. Reputation matters. Voynov isn't getting any sympathy from me. I'm sure the multimillionaire domestic abuser will do just fine in life whether or not the nhl lets him back in.
Lol people still using this comparison? How cute. A conscious decision to beat the shit out of your significant other and being young and reckless are totes the same thing.Dany Heatley killed his best friend...... Only slick lawyers and plea bargains saved him from a vehicular homicide conviction(which he was guilty of). How many games did he get?
I don't condone what he did but this shouldn't be a life sentence
That was also a decade ago, and he spent nearly two years in federal prison. He say with the owner of the Eagles to try to be convincing about having accepting of responsibility for his actions and trying to change. And if I recall it still wasn't exactly popular.
What has Voynov done except run back to Russia, play hockey there for a few years, and have his conviction dismissed?
I didn't agree with Vick's return either, but these are different situations
No, they're not. You are obcessing over minor irrelevant details. Don't make this out to be worse than Vick's. Mike Vick was literally a dog murderer. The guy shot/hung dogs to death.
Also, nobody in America even knows who the **** Slava Voynov is outside of hockey fans. Mike Vick was a high profile guy who played on PrimeTime in a big market and he turned out fine.
Don't at all take this as me justifying Voynov's actions, i am not. But i wouldn't mind if someone gave him a 2nd chance.
That's just plainly false.
I'm not obsessing over anything. Nothing said in here will affect my life in any way, nor will any decision on Voynov. I'm just discussing.
To think that Vick being given a second chance in 2009 after serving two years in prison is somehow similar to giving Voynov a second chance after he did nothing to own his actions, much less attempt to pay for them, is ridiculous. Yes, what Vick did was awful, and, as I said previously, I was opposed to him returning. The fact remains that these situations are different, they aren't only different because of "irrelevant details," and it is hardly an unreasonable stance to want to see someone earn a second chance. People don't deserve to be given a second chance inherently. That's also ridiculous.
Lol people still using this comparison? How cute. A conscious decision to beat the **** out of your significant other and being young and reckless are totes the same thing.