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Slafkovsky vs Lafreniere

Who will be better?

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If only you can combine them into one, you get a legit number 1 overall pick.

I'd still go with laffy, good toolbox is generally safer than an all tools player.
 
One is in his 3rd season and still hasn't improved while the other has played only 39 games. I'll take the rookie.
 
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I think the better question is how long until their cities run them out of town? Honestly probably the most difficult places for a 1OA to go to outside of Toronto.
 
I heard someone describe Slafkovsky as a Pierre Engvall clone, which is an extremely pessimistic forecast for a 1st overall pick. So I'll go with Lafreniere.
 
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Zach716 said:
I think the better question is how long until their cities run them out of town? Honestly probably the most difficult places for a 1OA to go to outside of Toronto.
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If I had to guess a date, I think I would set it at January 15th 2027 for Slaf. We'll be nearing the 5 year mark and the MTL fans and media are going to be quite displeased when it's clear rushing him created a situation where he's a 20-25 G, 40-50 point winger at best and several of the players taken after him are very good players, possibly stars. It's going to get ugly and it will be viewed as best to move the player elsewhere to start fresh.

Throw in this brutal season we are enduring that will likely not even result in a high choice in a great draft, further delaying any kind of return to just being a competitive team in the East, and it will just add to the bitterness over the whole situation.
 
Slaf has entered on his second season with only 2points on 12 games

Laf on his 4th szn has finally started producing(on a small sample size), 9 points in 13 games after scoring 3pts tonight against Wild

This question is getting interesting.

Votes are 146-99 for Slafkovsky before my message. I just voted Slafkovsky because he has more time but it was hard to decide with Laf showing some promise. Didn't really understand him going on 1st because Finnish prospect have much better numbers in Liiga every year and Finland has never had 1st pick.

I think Slafkovsky should be sent on AHL and u20's to get some scoring touch but unfortunately that's not the way Montreal(Or Rangers) do it.
 
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Miro4Norris said:
Slaf has entered on his second season with only 2points on 12 games

Laf on his 4th szn has finally started producing(on a small sample size), 9 points in 13 games after scoring 3pts tonight against Wild

This question is getting interesting.

Votes are 146-99 for Slafkovsky before my message. I just voted Slafkovsky because he has more time but it was hard to decide with Laf showing some promise. Didn't really understand him going on 1st because Finnish prospect have much better numbers in Liiga every year and Finland has never had 1st pick.

I think Slafkovsky should be sent on AHL and u20's to get some scoring touch but unfortunately that's not the way Montreal(Or Rangers) do it.
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You don't learn how to use your body in the NHL playing with juniors. Sometimes the Spartan way is also the right one, even if results aren't immediate.
 
Albatros said:
You don't learn how to use your body in the NHL playing with juniors. Sometimes the Spartan way is also the right one, even if results aren't immediate.
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C'mon it's only couple of games against the best juniors to get some confidence. You can learn that in AHL tho which was my main point, guys are just as big and play at great pace. I guess that one season of AHL dominance including world juniors championship didn't ruin another guy with same size coming from same Liiga team TPS, Mikko Rantanen?
 
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Fatass said:
Can I ask the OP to offer a third choice of NEITHER?
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With the #1 overall pick? Because otherwise Lafreniere is turning into a very solid top 6 player. This opinion is outdated. And no he's not just passenger on Panarin's line. He's arguably our second best forward 5 on 5, he just doesn't get PP1 time.
 
People love comparing Lafreniere to Yakupov, but he's been a better player for a long time. He's definitely been a disappointment but most players that get a lot of points get PP1 time. He's not in PP1 because the players on the Rangers PP1 are very very good. He was a half point per game last year mostly 5 on 5. He's not going to be as good as most #1 overalls but the legend of Lafreniere the non-NHL player has been greatly exaggerated.
 
Slafkovsky started his career nearly an entire year younger and only has six less points in 52 games than Lafreniere did to start; and on a much worse team to boot

bigger players have almost always taken longer to develop.. so this doesnt bode well for Lafreniere being the better player long-term

that is, of course, if Montreal doesnt f*** up the rebuild!
 
NJ DevLolz said:
Laf shooting 22% and is being carried by a reinvigorated Panarin. Let’s see where this goes!
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This is a false take but not surprised. If you watch him play and look at the metrics he's been the second best player on the Rangers 5 on 5. He's not being carried by Panarin just because Panarin is on his line and playing great. He's not the main part of that line but he's not a passenger either. But he's a "tap in merchant" and sucks amirite?

Baine Bloodhoof said:
Slafkovsky started his career nearly an entire year younger and only has six less points in 52 games than Lafreniere did to start; and on a much worse team to boot

bigger players have almost always taken longer to develop.. so this doesnt bode well for Lafreniere being the better player long-term

that is, of course, if Montreal doesnt f*** up the rebuild!
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Being on a better team in some ways hurts your development because you don't get PP time and the minutes of guys on worse teams.
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
This is a false take but not surprised. If you watch him play and look at the metrics he's been the second best player on the Rangers 5 on 5. He's not being carried by Panarin just because Panarin is on his line and playing great. He's not the main part of that line but he's not a passenger either. But he's a "tap in merchan" and sucks amirite?



Being on a better team in some ways hurts your development because you don't get PP time and the minutes of guys on worse teams.
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thats also true!

without it being specifically about size.. i do think Juraj's development will be far less linear than Lafreniere's and see a bigger spike as he gains that man strength to really use his body properly

both could end up surprising but if i had to bet on one itd Slafkovsky (and i mean from the point Juraj is now/Alexis was then)
 
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Fun fact:
Laf is currently on pace to hit 57 points for the season. If Slaf continues his current season points-per-game pace (0.154), he will hit 57 career points by career game 344.

I absolutely recognise this is still way too small of sample size and way too early in Slaf's career to be judging him this harshly. It's simply borderline incredible how bad of a point producer Slaf has been thus far in his (short) career. His points-per-game is literally lower than career defensive-defenceman Mike Rathje.
 
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