Skinner vs top-10

[McJadeddog]

I am stealing this from the Reddit Oilers sub (link: ) as I think its a really good thread and wanted to get peoples thoughts on here. I am not sure who cross-posts on Reddit or not.

Here is the important information if you don't want to click on the link:

Basically in 13 games against top-10 teams (so the type of teams we'll face in the playoffs), Skinner has -8 goals saved above expected. He is spotting the other team almost a full goal a game more than league average goaltending would give us (0.62 goals/game). His save percentage is astonishingly bad at 0.872 in these games. He is a travesty when he is playing good teams. This aligns perfectly with what we've seen of him in the past playoffs.

Skinner is the biggest problem on the team, and its not that close. There have been some advanced stats guys coming out lately stating the exact same thing. The Oilers are an absolute elite team in all regards, except goaltending. We aren't going to win a cup with Skinner, full stop. Management needs to do something about it, and they needed to do it yesterday.

Edit: I see that it posted the information in the table twice, not sure if I'm the only one seeing that or not. Apologies if everybody sees it twice.

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[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Reddit doesn’t think Schwartz is a problem. Typical management loving losers.

 

[GMofOilers]

Not my fault skinner is the biggest fraud in the league. If he wasnt playing on the Oilers he wouldnt have a nhl job. Hes not a nhl goaltender.

 

[barry halls]

The Oilers org are cowards when it comes to goaltending. It's as though they decided to give up and stop trying to improve because Campbell backfired, and/or they are worried about hurting Skinner or Pickard's or Schwartz's feelings because they're good guys.

It's also seems that there is a mandate to defend and protect our goaltending, with nearly the entirety of Edmonton media all making a point of defending our tandem, making excuses for them when they shit the bed, and reinforcing the notion that Stu is cheap and therefore we should shut up and accept him.

It's incredibly frustrating that all the evidence points to Stu being a 1B or a back-up, but the Oilers are likely going to sign him for $5-6 mil per year to be the starter for the rest of McDrai's prime years. There hasn't even been a whisper that Oilers management would like to improve the goaltending, so I have given up hope.

 

[McAsuno]

Can’t run with this tandem in the playoffs again, otherwise kiss the Stanley cup goodbye.

 

[frag2]

Skinner just sucks when the games are difficult. Period.

Guy seemingly wilts and then the team up front has to go supernova to be close in those games

But this isn't really news. Just like last years 16 win streak, guy was still flirting -10 GSAx iirc

 

[McDrai]

Can’t run with this tandem in the playoffs again, otherwise kiss the Stanley cup goodbye.

100%. We need to at least bring in a goalie to push Skinner. Anything else and this is an epic fail for management.

 

[Soundwave]

This is probably an easier to read summary of it

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I'm not defending Skinner or his shit performance, but maybe him having a baby and potentially being sick had something to do with last night?

He seems like the kind of guy that gets off his game real easy. As a goalie he really lacks athleticism and if he's not "on" he's awful.

 

[McJadeddog]

I'm not defending Skinner or his shit performance, but maybe him having a baby and potentially being sick had something to do with last night?

He seems like the kind of guy that gets off his game real easy. As a goalie he really lacks athleticism and if he's not "on" he's awful.

I am 100% willing to ignore the last few games. But what about the last 2 years that show the exact same problems?

This isn't a new issue for Skinner, its a continuation of a long-established trend.

 

[Soundwave]

I'm not defending Skinner or his shit performance, but maybe him having a baby and potentially being sick had something to do with last night?

He seems like the kind of guy that gets off his game real easy. As a goalie he really lacks athleticism and if he's not "on" he's awful.

There's a hockey term for what you described.

It's called "a back up goalie".

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Avs just won to move into the top 10...time to update the record!