Post-Game Talk: Skinner Does Dallas

[iCanada]

I don’t understand Skinner and I don’t think I will ever feel comfortable when hes in net. But I have to give him some credit … I didn’t think he was mentally strong enough to do what he has this post season bouncing back the way he has. Bizarro world.

All good, we got a big game 4 coming up on Sunday and he's always money in game 4.

Yes Stu, it's game 4 again.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Meh. I'd rather Nurse keep that kind of attitude in his game. He's way more effective when he's got that swagger and isn't taking shit from anyone.

Don't go to the front of the net and starting throwing crosschecks if you don't want to get hit back.

And if it was a major? Is Nurse’s swagger worth another Dallas comeback on the power play?

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

And if it was a major? Is Nurse’s swagger worth another Dallas comeback on the power play?

But it wasn't so its a moot point your making. They do need to establish the front of the net is a no parking zone and it will cost the odd penalty to put that thought deep into the Stars brains. That said when your PK is rolling along at a 62% it is a dangerous play to make, but the PK stepped up and killed it so alls fair in love and war.

 

[North]

Sure there is a chance. Everyone has played well. Unless we go 11-7 the rest of the way, someone is coming out. Everyone is saying it's Stecher but isn't chemistry with Nurse important too? Stecher has been great. Are we pulling him out because of his size? Are we giving up on D balance just for the tiny gap in value between Stecher and Walman?

Honestly, the D has been so good that maybe we do go 11-7 right to the end. If not, I don't think we can argue that Walman isn't our 4th ranked LD

You’re kidding yourself.

It’s between Stetcher and Klingberg.

It’s ridiculous to suggest Walman would be scratched.

 

[McDNicks17]

And if it was a major? Is Nurse’s swagger worth another Dallas comeback on the power play?

Your argument is a hypothetical that could lead to another hypothetical?

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Oilers are now 3 for 3 in opposing coach meltdowns in the post season. People complain about Knob being too quiet but I'm glad he isn't a whiney bitch like Hiller, Cassidy and Deboer.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

But it wasn't so its a moot point your making. They do need to establish the front of the net is a no parking zone and it will cost the odd penalty to put that thought deep into the Stars brains. That said when your PK is rolling along at a 62% it is a dangerous play to make, but the PK stepped up and killed it so alls fair in love and war.

Your argument is a hypothetical that could lead to another hypothetical?

It worked out this time, but I don’t see what’s wrong in not wanting to be undisciplined especially when most of the Stars offence this playoffs has come on the man advantage. There are other ways to establish the net front without making obvious, retaliatory stick infractions.

Would we really have been surprised if Nurse got a major there? This team has a history of getting screwed by the refs. I was actually more shocked it wasn’t called as one.

 

[Fourier]

Oilers are now 3 for 3 in opposing coach meltdowns in the post season. People complain about Knob being too quiet but I'm glad he isn't a whiney bitch like Hiller, Cassidy and Deboer.

I genuinely don't think any of those three thought the Oilers would be as tough a team to beat as they are. My guess is that LA figured this was their year, Vegas just assumed they would win and that Dallas believes they have already had the toughest competition in the West put away to bed. The coaches whining is a sign of frustration I think.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

It worked out this time, but I don’t see what’s wrong in not wanting to be undisciplined especially when most of the Stars offence this playoffs has come on the man advantage. There are other ways to establish the net front without making obvious, retaliatory stick infractions.

Would we really have been surprised if Nurse got a major there? This team has a history of getting screwed by the refs. I was actually more shocked it wasn’t called as one.

I don’t totally disagree when running the 62% PK but I do believe you have to engage netfront. A little of the old Chris Pronger if you will. Normally a PK in the high 80’s kills that off most if the time and message sent.

 

[CupofOil]

Meh. I'd rather Nurse keep that kind of attitude in his game. He's way more effective when he's got that swagger and isn't taking shit from anyone.

Don't go to the front of the net and starting throwing crosschecks if you don't want to get hit back.

I agree but that slash could have called a major then you're killing off a 5 minute PP and don't have Nurse the rest of the game. You can play physical without blatantly slashing somebody, it was dumb and could have cost the Oilers. The Oilers have had several of these dumb moments in the first two games and in an otherwise almost flawless 120 minutes in Dallas.

 

[McDNicks17]

I agree but that slash could have called a major then you're killing off a 5 minute PP and don't have Nurse the rest of the game. You can play physical without blatantly slashing somebody, it was dumb and could have cost the Oilers. The Oilers have had several of these dumb moments in the first two games and in an otherwise almost flawless 120 minutes in Dallas.

I think it's fair to say that a slash like that gets called a major about 0.00000001% of the time.

Make guys pay if they want to go to the front of the net. You can't just let them have free real estate because a freak injury might happen.

 

[CupofOil]

I think it's fair to say that a slash like that gets called a major about 0.00000001% of the time.

Make guys pay if they want to go to the front of the net. You can't just let them have free real estate because a freak injury might happen.

Again though, you can make them pay without making a slash that is borderline enough for them to review, how many slashes get reviewed? Not many, it was clearly borderline otherwise it wouldn't have been reviewed.. The refs could have easily called the major then the worst PK in the playoffs is having to kill a major and without one of their best Dmen in a game they were completely in control of. Plenty of Dmen make the forwards pay without committing obvious penalties as if he's 90s Derian Hatcher. I think we're just going to agree to disagree on that one. I love physical Nurse, not stupid Nurse and I feel he was the latter on this one.

 

[McDNicks17]

Again though, you can make them pay without making a slash that is borderline enough for them to review, how many slashes get reviewed? Not many, it was clearly borderline otherwise it wouldn't have been reviewed.. The refs could have easily called the major then the worst PK in the playoffs is having to kill a major and without one of their best Dmen. Plenty of Dmen make the forwards pay without committing obvious penalties as if he's 90s Derian Hatcher. I think we're just going to agree to disagree on that one. I love physical Nurse, not stupid Nurse and I feel he was the latter on this one.

Stickwork in front of the net is as old as the sport itself. Nurse doesn't need to reinvent the game. There's hundreds of obvious penalties that go uncalled there because that's how it's always been.

It was reviewed because it was an automatic major for injuring a player. Without the flop and freak injury, we aren't even talking about the slash like we don't talk about all those other stick infractions in the same area.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

All good, we got a big game 4 coming up on Sunday and he's always money in game 4.

Yes Stu, it's game 4 again.

Maybe he’s going reverse…before he was good in games 7,6,5,4 and now had a shutout in 3 and was damn good. So if they get back to the final, we can expect a stinker in game 1 then be good the rest of the series.

That’s the hope.

 

[Mav3rick07]

How about that Jake Walman ? I find it hard to believe that he's already 29 seems like he should be younger.

 

[AM]

That Nurse slash is so strange. It really looked like nothing or, at worse, that it caught Hintz right on the skate laces and made his foot go dead.

I actually thought it was major embellishment at first but he didn't come back and was apparently in a boot so I guess not. But I don't know what he could've injured as it was a pretty routine slash and not to a particularly vulnerable area. Just strange.

Having said that... I am kind of expecting Nurse to get suspended. I don't think it would be warranted or justified but I do see the league putting its thumb on the scale in favour of Dallas.

Pre-existing injuries is most likely the answer. If your foot is mostly broken a little slash sends it over the edge.

Maybe if you are nursing an injury don’t cross check the nurse.

 

[AM]

I mean I can understand because the entire blueline is playing incredible hockey, but it can make people forget how good Ekholm is, especially when normally paired with Bouchard who's playing like a true #1D these playoffs.

Klingberg can sit and watch.

So far he’s trying too hard this series.

 

[AM]

No question, but you can play Nurse a lot less with a healthy Ekholm back. It's very clear that Nurse is the 3rd/4th best LHD on this team (depending on Ekholm's health)

Not even close.

 

[tiger_80]

There's no way the league is suspending nurse for that, get real.

They're bad but not that bad.

They gave him two minutes minor after reviewing the incident. Obviously, there won't be any hearing.

 

[tiger_80]

Klingberg can sit and watch.

So far he’s trying too hard this series.

Klingberg has been solid, especially with how low expectations were of him at the time of the signing.

 

[AM]

We even have a strategy for Ekholm. It's Heiskanen. His return was a great success for Dallas. They recognized that Heiskanen was not going to be at 100% right away. They went with 11-7 until Heiskanen could play 25 minutes a night. Our team even has experience with 11-7.

We cant just put him in. We were forced to do that with Walman and he started out pretty bad in the playoffs but has gotten better and better since then. Against this opponent, with the stakes what they are, Ekholm is a liability, but if we can endure his adjustment period it gives us a massive boost for the finals. So just bring Ekholm in with sheltered minutes. Go 11-7. Our current top 6 D have been amazing and can do it. Our forwards can take on some extra minutes for a few games

Good thing the coach has a plan.

 

[AM]

Klingberg has been solid, especially with how low expectations were of him at the time of the signing.

Yea he’s trying hard. Way too hard.

I like him, in fact I really like him.

He needs to sit for a game and hyperventilate for a bit.

Then when he’s got the bit between his teeth, release the kraken.

 

[AM]

Lucky, Nurse has to stop with this dumb shit especially with Ekholm out. He's too valuable to the team and there's too much at stake. If the Oilers simply cut the stupid out of the game (adding in the stupid Kane and Perry penalties in Game 1) and they'd likely be favorites for the Cup. Just cut the stupid out, it should be easy for vets to recognize this.

The nurse of a few seasons ago would have cross checked the guy and said he was trying to do cpr on him because his hart was stopped.

 

[brentashton]

Klingberg can sit and watch.

So far he’s trying too hard this series.

Bouchard, Kulak, Nurse and Klingberg have been top 4 this play offs. Stecher honourable mention. Actually, the entire D corp have been solid for that matter. Walman has had his moments but nothing fatal.

But Klingberg doesn’t get pulled when Eckholm is ready to return. Unfortunately Stecher pulls the short straw, that being the lot of a seventh D man. He’s ready to draw back in if needed though. Solid.

 

[BeranekAndNeck]

You’re kidding yourself.

It’s between Stetcher and Klingberg.

It’s ridiculous to suggest Walman would be scratched.

Klingberg please. Haven’t liked him at all this series and it’s clear the extra time a slower Vegas team gave him to find his lanes and work the line was a big factor in his play that series. Ekholm even at 70% offers more in the way of PK and ES sturdiness and we need that.

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