Proposal: SJS-NYR

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

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It isn't as high as you might think. 44.4% to 21.4% in this pick range.

You’re using statistics like a drunk uses a lamppost-for support, rather than illumination.

 

[Kcoyote3]

What is this stat? How many games one has to play to become an NHLer? How does one become a star? Serious question, because if someone told me almost 11% of 6th rounders become regular NHL players I wouldn't believe them.

NHLer defined as 200 NHL games played, and star is defined as >0.7 PPG for forwards and 0.5 PPG for defensemen over a career I believe by this chart.

 

[Kcoyote3]

You’re using statistics like a drunk uses a lamppost-for support, rather than illumination.

Oh I'm sorry, the one before me using statistics to try to prove your point is fine, but when I have a rebuttal that goes against your idea, you can use a clever saying to try to sound smart. Love it.

 

[Boondock]

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It isn't as high as you might think. 44.4% to 21.4% in this pick range.

Is that players that have played 200 games or just players that have played in NHL games? I looked at 3 different resources and took my numbers using more than 199 NHL games played as the criteria.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Is that players that have played 200 games or just players that have played in NHL games? I looked at 3 different resources and took my numbers using more than 199 NHL games played as the criteria.

It's 200 NHL games

 

[Dr Quincy]

Team with Kreider and Panarin at LW "Hey let's trade our 1st for a LW!!"

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Oh I'm sorry, the one before me using statistics to try to prove your point is fine, but when I have a rebuttal that goes against your idea, you can use a clever saying to try to sound smart. Love it.

You had me at “I’m sorry”. Your proposal sucks. No stats required. Own it and move on.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Team with Kreider and Panarin at LW "Hey let's trade our 1st for a LW!!"

Be nice we’re a Barabanov away from the Cup.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Your proposal sucks. No stats required. Own it and move on.

It doesn't, but thanks for your input.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

It doesn't, but thanks for your input.it

Yes it does. This is fun.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Yes it does. This is fun.

Not sure what you want me to say at this point. Jarnkrok just got a 2nd, a 3rd and a 7th, despite Barabanov outscoring him and being half the price. Ben f***ing Chiarot just got a 1st, prospect and a 4th.

 

[TGWL]

wrong thread

 

[bernmeister]

Yeeeeaaaaaa No!

A first rounder for another 3rd liner rental. No what we need.

correct

NYR not spending a 1st on rental
or a premium prospect

other teams may
but this is not a win-now-or-else season for NYR, that price is too high

correct x 2

How about Barabanov for a 2nd, not sure if NYR even wants him tho

we do not

 

[bernmeister]

not interested either a pick outright or to downgrade pick
not bad player, but not a fit and do not want

 

[One Winged Angel]

It doesn't, but thanks for your input.

It absolutely sucks.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Not sure what you want me to say at this point. Jarnkrok just got a 2nd, a 3rd and a 7th, despite Barabanov outscoring him and being half the price. Ben f***ing Chiarot just got a 1st, prospect and a 4th.

Stop peddling him to the Rangers.

That’s what we want.

 

[DisbeliefInDW]

Terrible trade for the Sharks, no thank you at all. Awful.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Stop peddling him to the Rangers.

That’s what we want.

Boy you all are sensitive today

 

[One Winged Angel]

Boy you all are sensitive today

So we’re sensitive because your proposal sucks?

Ok, slappy.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

It doesn't, but thanks for your input.

Its really bad.

 

[Kupo]

not interested either a pick outright or to downgrade pick
not bad player, but not a fit and do not want

This is it right here.

Barabanov is a low key, quality player that is not only versatile up/down a lineup, but also productive.

I very much like him as a player. But, he’s not a natural Center that alleviates our biggest organization need (2C), nor does he really fit in our top 9 after this season, which we probably couldn’t afford given our short term cap crunch. In all honesty, nobody knows what to expect of him going forward. He hasn’t even played a full 82 game season yet.

Not to take anything away from him, but he’s a 27 year old undrafted winger who was traded for another undrafted winger in Soumela. Most of his goals that I’ve seen are him taking advantage of good opportunities, especially down low. I recall him a Kane having some nice goals before Kane was banished to hell.

Nobodies giving up a 1st for him. That’s not a knock on him. That’s just reality.

 

[DG93]

So why would the Rangers pay top price for a piece they don't need again?

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Yeah I'm a sharks fan but if my team gave up a first for Barabanov I'd be pissed.

He is an awesome player, but his contract is expiring and has earned a raise, so a deal for him is not comparable to Goodrow.

 

[Shark Finn]

I get it you are trying to recreate the Goodrow trade in a way, but this just doesn't make sense.

 

[Gecklund]

This is it right here.

Barabanov is a low key, quality player that is not only versatile up/down a lineup, but also productive.

I very much like him as a player. But, he’s not a natural Center that alleviates our biggest organization need (2C), nor does he really fit in our top 9 after this season, which we probably couldn’t afford given our short term cap crunch. In all honesty, nobody knows what to expect of him going forward. He hasn’t even played a full 82 game season yet.

Not to take anything away from him, but he’s a 27 year old undrafted winger who was traded for another undrafted winger in Soumela. Most of his goals that I’ve seen are him taking advantage of good opportunities, especially down low. I recall him a Kane having some nice goals before Kane was banished to hell.

Nobodies giving up a 1st for him. That’s not a knock on him. That’s just reality.

If someone is giving up a first for him, we are taking back a bad contract. I think that’s the only way it happens. I don’t know if the Rangers necessarily have a contract that fits that. EDM might be the best example (at least off the top of my head). Something like Kassian+1st for Barabanov.