Proposal: SJS-NYR

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NYR not spending a 1st on rental
or a premium prospect

other teams may
but this is not a win-now-or-else season for NYR, that price is too high
 
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that only worked with Goodrow because he was signed another year and TB was desperate. We aren’t going to do that again with Barabanov. It’s a 2nd not a 1st.
 
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In reality it is moving from pick 24-32 to pick 70-75. Just saying since it seems like no one wants to mention that.
Dunking on your own trade proposal?

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So Barabanova is worth moving up 40 or spots? It's your proposal and you're mentioning it?
I meant that everyone just kept saying Barabanov wasn't worth a 1st, and in reality it isn't a first in isolation, it's moving down 40 spots for the Rangers. Again, this is assuming the Rangers are buying for a playoff push. If that's not the case, I think to another team that is trying to contend, yes Barabanov may be worth moving down 40 spots in the draft.
 
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I meant that everyone just kept saying Barabanov wasn't worth a 1st, and in reality it isn't a first in isolation, it's moving down 40 spots for the Rangers. Again, this is assuming the Rangers are buying for a playoff push. If that's not the case, I think to another team that is trying to contend, yes Barabanov may be worth moving down 40 spots in the draft.
Good luck with that.
 

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I meant that everyone just kept saying Barabanov wasn't worth a 1st, and in reality it isn't a first in isolation, it's moving down 40 spots for the Rangers. Again, this is assuming the Rangers are buying for a playoff push. If that's not the case, I think to another team that is trying to contend, yes Barabanov may be worth moving down 40 spots in the draft.
So let's do Barabanov and a 4th for a 2nd. Still moving down 40 spots.
 

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In reality it is moving from pick 24-32 to pick 70-75. Just saying since it seems like no one wants to mention that.
Problem is if you look at draft probability the odds a player playing 200 NHL games plummets after pick 15-20 range. Odds of a first rounder playing 200 NHL games has been calculated at roughly 63%. That percentage drops to about 12-13% in the third round. So it's only dropping down 40ish draft choices, but in overall probability of making an impact on an NHL roster, that drop of 40 picks represents a significant decrease in probability of playing 200 NHL games
 
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Problem is if you look at draft probability the odds a player playing 200 NHL games plummets after pick 15-20 range. Odds of a first rounder playing 200 NHL games has been calculated at roughly 63%. That percentage drops to about 12-13% in the third round. So it's only dropping down 40ish draft choices, but in overall probability of making an impact on an NHL roster, that drop of 40 picks represents a significant decrease in probability of playing 200 NHL games
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It isn't as high as you might think. 44.4% to 21.4% in this pick range.
 
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To NYR:

Barabanov
Sharks 2022 3rd

To SJS:

NYR 2022 1st
The 3rd here is pushed to get a 1st. I'm not quite sure why that makes sense for NYR? I understand asking for a 2nd plus mid pick, maybe, if the 2nd wasn't enough (Whether NYR or fans want to make that trade), but tossing a 3rd in to push your way to a 1st is not one a lot of NYR fans will like.
 

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It isn't as high as you might think. 44.4% to 21.4% in this pick range.

What is this stat? How many games one has to play to become an NHLer? How does one become a star? Serious question, because if someone told me almost 11% of 6th rounders become regular NHL players I wouldn't believe them.
 

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