Confirmed Signing with Link: [SJS] Brent Burns (8 Years, ~8M AAV)

[Limekiller]

According to LeBrun's ESPN article, the contract is front-loaded and includes signing bonuses. So, his actual salary will be a lot lower in the later years of the contract.

Story link: http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/18114630/brent-burns-san-jose-sharks-agree-eight-year-extension

Relevant section:

Financial terms weren't revealed, but the deal is worth $64 million total, according to a source. The contract is front-loaded, including signing bonuses. The deal does not include a full no-move clause but does have limited no-trade provisions.

Given the front loading and only a limited NTC, I have zero issues whatsoever with the contract length. I'm actually ecstatic the AAV is only 8m. It wouldn't have surprised me if he got 9-10m on the open market if he made it there.

 

[sjsharks92]

How so?

Because he's a worse player being paid almost as much but for 3 years less.

 

[CupfortheSharks]

AAV all right
Term is 2 or 3 years too long

Lots of people saying this. Look at the contract details. 10MM for the 1st 4 years. That's obviously what burns was looking to get paid. The additional years at lower cost were added to reduce the cap hit.

 

[Limekiller]

More info on the contract:



Edit: Also, full breakdown:

 

[chizzler]

All these type of contracts are front loaded. What team would pay a player at his oldest age the most in the contract?

 

[BaileyMacTavish]

Fora guy like Burns, 8x8 is perfect NOW. in 5 years it's a crapshoot. I think this is a good deal.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

All these type of contracts are front loaded. What team would pay a player at his oldest age the most in the contract?

A team would probably be better off backloading contracts if they could but player negotiations tend to have that be a non-starter.

 

[EveryDay]

Starting next season both player will be 32 yo.

Weber 9 years at 7.8M
Burns 8 years at 8M

Its pretty close and I'm wondering who will be better in their late 30..... The $$$ amount is good but both terms are too long by 2-3 years IMO.

 

[mouser]

Understandable, but yeah that term is very worrying.

 

[The Macho King]

Feeling even better with the Hedman contract.

 

[mouser]

Edit: Also, full breakdown:

Pretty much buyout-proof in the later years of the contract with all that signing bonus money.

 

[Nucker101]

Love the player, but I'm not a fan of that term at all. Would rather pay more annually and cut it to 6 years.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

No, he was moved to forward because Thornton needed a winger.

When he came back to defense he had a bit of a struggle re-learning the position, but since halfway through last year, he's been fantastic defensively.

Does it really make sense to move a great deal to forward if he's playing great defense... And to wing?

In my experience dmen are moved to forward when a team feels they are more valuable at forward. Guys like byfuglin and Marty mcsorley
Greg hawgood an ex Bruin... John Scott...

There aren't a lot of examples because if a guy can play defense in the NHL you want to leave him there because defense is so difficult to find.

I mean Detroit used to put federov back there against his wishes because a very good dman is so valuable.

That's why I say burns is worth 8 mill when he's playing motivated and focused. He's been such a beast these past 2 years

And I don't doubt for a second he could continue to 40 given his skills and size

To me, the red flag is his well documented free spirit. Unless he pulls a jagr in his late 30s I could easily see burns getting bored of all this when his take home pay dwindles to 3 mill

If he retires early the recapture is going to hurt

 

[mouser]

If he retires early the recapture is going to hurt

A) His pay in the final years is $5m -- $2m signing bonus + $3m salary.

B) There is no recapture for contracts signed after 2012.

 

[Limekiller]

Pretty much buyout-proof in the later years of the contract with all that signing bonus money.

From what some of the talking heads at TSN were saying, that huge 8m signing bonus is basically lockout protection, so he'll still get most of his money even if CBA negotiations break down and we see yet another work stoppage.

 

[Seras]

Nhl needs to make max contracts 6 years. Any top player in the league has this and is bad for team and other players. Ducks have 3 in getzlaf, kesler, Perry. Sucks in a few years.

He would just get more per year

 

[KingsHockey24]

Ouch, brutal contract.

 

[Juxtaposer]

In 5 years, the Sharks won't have an elite Joe Thornton. So honestly? Who the **** cares about how bad the contract might be in 5 years. This is a good contract for the remainder of our contending years and that's the important part.

 

[Jeti]

Buffs contract looks amazing now.

I don't know about amazing, but I agree this makes it look better. Buff got fair value for the maximum length of time I'd be comfortable giving it for. Burns is a year older IIRC, plus this deal is signed a year later.

 

[Hurricane Hugo]

Yeah, I agree with the consensus here; brutal deal taking the term into consideration.

 

[CrypTic]

Pretty much buyout-proof in the later years of the contract with all that signing bonus money.

Yep. The contract looks buyout proof. The term is also too long. I don't hate it as much as many non-Sharks' fans but it's not a good contract IMO.

 

[who_me?]

Understandable, but yeah that term is very worrying.

Why? Wookies don't age.

 

[Sarge58]

Burnzy is awesome, the last two years may or may not be great but he's the type of player you want to eventually retire playing on your team.

 

[GordonGecko]

The Sharks will have no problems with this. Not sure your backhanded shot is needed here but whatever.

Sorry dude he's right that contract sucks. Prepare for the basement for a few seasons on the back end of that contract

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

9% of the cap for a Norris contender who keeps himself in unbelievable shape. It may suck in 5 years, but in five years Jumbo will be retiring (if we are lucky) and the Sharks will be going into full re-build, so who cares.

9% was the percentage of his present contract when it was signed.

11% is the percentage of his new contract (if the cap doesn't go up).