Prospect Info: SJ Sharks 2020 draftee (2/38) Thomas Bordeleau (C) - US-NTDP

[themelkman]

Maybe a naive question because I'm not an expert on nhl contracts, but - if we are entering a lengthy full on rebuild, does it benefit the team for Thomas to stay in college another year? Do we want him burning a year of ELC for a few games this year ? This team is probably so far off from being good let him start his ELC clock as late as possible. That's what baseball teams do (screwing over their own players)

That is a decent consideration. However it can come back to hurt teams as well. Some guys were delayed longer so they were much better by the time they signed their first contract they got way more than they wouldve the year before.

 

[STL Shark]

Maybe a naive question because I'm not an expert on nhl contracts, but - if we are entering a lengthy full on rebuild, does it benefit the team for Thomas to stay in college another year? Do we want him burning a year of ELC for a few games this year ? This team is probably so far off from being good let him start his ELC clock as late as possible. That's what baseball teams do (screwing over their own players)

I see the argument for that, but my opinion is that the org is better served to know what they have as soon as possible in Bordeleau and other prospects that will compile the new core group than it is to move an ELC back a year.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Maybe a naive question because I'm not an expert on nhl contracts, but - if we are entering a lengthy full on rebuild, does it benefit the team for Thomas to stay in college another year? Do we want him burning a year of ELC for a few games this year ? This team is probably so far off from being good let him start his ELC clock as late as possible. That's what baseball teams do (screwing over their own players)

Here’s actually my opinion: it depends on the player. If a player is gonna come in and dominate right away, then yes, I think it’s better to burn the ELC as late as possible so you can maximize the amount of time you have a game-changing player on a cheap deal. If a player is gonna come in a take a couple seasons before becoming a game-changer, then it doesn’t actually matter much and maybe it’s even better to burn a year earlier, because there’s less time to have a “breakout year” before signing a longer term deal.

I think Bordeleau will be the latter, and I also strongly believe in not rushing young players. If Bordeleau is too good for the AHL and forces a call up, then that’s what he deserves. But I don’t think he’s on that level yet.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I still can't believe this guy went in the second round. Credit to Doug Wilson.

 

[702SHARK]

I still can't believe this guy went in the second round. Credit to Doug Wilson.

*Doug Wilson Jr.

 

[Tw1ster]

I know he’s been highly touted around here but beyond that, I don’t know too much about him or his expected ceiling. Who would you guys compare him to, and what are the current expectations you guys have for him potential wise when he reaches the NHL?

 

[one2gamble]

The key with him is he keeps trending upward

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I know he’s been highly touted around here but beyond that, I don’t know too much about him or his expected ceiling. Who would you guys compare him to, and what are the current expectations you guys have for him potential wise when he reaches the NHL?

Claude Giroux as his potential. I wouldn’t expect any less than a 2nd line winger.

 

[Karl Prime]

Gotta Bordelove it.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Normally I would say something like, "Bordeleau save us!!!" but the guy is really puny so I won't put the pressure on him to be the savior of this team.

 

[NiWa]

I know he’s been highly touted around here but beyond that, I don’t know too much about him or his expected ceiling. Who would you guys compare him to, and what are the current expectations you guys have for him potential wise when he reaches the NHL?

At this stage, we are optimistic that he could become the 2C of the franchise one day.

 

[hohosaregood]

pff at best a number 5 prospect in any other team's system. get over yourselves sharks fans.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

pff at best a number 5 prospect in any other team's system. get over yourselves sharks fans.

Let us have some hope ya bastid.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Bordeleau is probably the only prospect I’m genuinely excited about, now that Leonard is graduated. I hope he spends another year in either the NCAA or the AHL and then joins the big team in 2022-2023.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Bordeleau is probably the only prospect I’m genuinely excited about, now that Leonard is graduated. I hope he spends another year in either the NCAA or the AHL and then joins the big team in 2022-2023.

I don't watch these guys play. All I have to go on are the numbers.

By my reckoning, Bordeleau's numbers point to someone like Couture (unquestionable first-line player) or maybe even Pavelski (elite-but-not-superstar).

The last time the Sharks had a prospect like that was Timo Meier (Merkley being debatable?).

Again, going just off the numbers, I'd say Bordeleau has to be the Sharks's top prospect right now.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[STL Shark]

Interesting note in there (whether true or false is hard to tell since it didn't come to fruition) about the organization bringing Eklund back for the end of the season had the Sharks been in the playoff hunt.

 

[Doctor Soraluce]

Interesting note in there (whether true or false is hard to tell since it didn't come to fruition) about the organization bringing Eklund back for the end of the season had the Sharks been in the playoff hunt.

I think it's good that they both start with a clean slate this summer. THey'll do captains skates together along with any of the other prospects going pro. Going to be an even younger team next season most likely. Exciting!

 

[Doctor Soraluce]

I don't watch these guys play. All I have to go on are the numbers.

By my reckoning, Bordeleau's numbers point to someone like Couture (unquestionable first-line player) or maybe even Pavelski (elite-but-not-superstar).

The last time the Sharks had a prospect like that was Timo Meier (Merkley being debatable?).

Again, going just off the numbers, I'd say Bordeleau has to be the Sharks's top prospect right now.

According to the scouts Sheng talked to they see him as a sort of Danault, 3C player at best. Hope he turns out to be more but it sounds like they intend to keep him at center so he likely slots in at 3C when he makes the Sharks unless they move Couture sometime in the next couple years.

 

[mogambomoroo]

According to the scouts Sheng talked to they see him as a sort of Danault, 3C player at best. Hope he turns out to be more but it sounds like they intend to keep him at center so he likely slots in at 3C when he makes the Sharks unless they move Couture sometime in the next couple years.

Realistically Bordeleau could push Couture to wing in few years if he becomes NHL 2-way center.
Until then I would love to see him more of a young 3C, or 2LW/RW and playing PP and some PK.

 

[STL Shark]

Realistically Bordeleau could push Couture to wing in few years if he becomes NHL 2-way center.
Until then I would love to see him more of a young 3C, or 2LW/RW and playing PP and some PK.

Think the goal would be for Couture to become that 3C that the organization was hoping that Bonino would be (aka the Bonino of Pittsburgh lore) and then to find a 2C internally (Bordeleau/Robins) or externally with Hertl as the 1C. Couture's game should age well as more of a tough minutes 3C and playoff performer that puts up 40-50 points.

 

[Crewouse]

Realistically Bordeleau could push Couture to wing in few years if he becomes NHL 2-way center.
Until then I would love to see him more of a young 3C, or 2LW/RW and playing PP and some PK.

Delete this rn before Hodge has an aneurysm

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Think the goal would be for Couture to become that 3C that the organization was hoping that Bonino would be (aka the Bonino of Pittsburgh lore) and then to find a 2C internally (Bordeleau/Robins) or externally with Hertl as the 1C. Couture's game should age well as more of a tough minutes 3C and playoff performer that puts up 40-50 points.

If you really want to go crazy, if you have Bordeleau and Robins hit as centers, one as 2C and the other as 3C, it would afford them the opportunity to move Couture to wing without having to go out and add. I feel like Cooch would be better served moving to wing over down to 3C. I don't think anyone would care for an 8 mil 3C.

 

[one2gamble]

Yea, juicy needs to go to wing asap, like two years ago asap

 

[Gecklund]

Realistically Bordeleau could push Couture to wing in few years if he becomes NHL 2-way center.
Until then I would love to see him more of a young 3C, or 2LW/RW and playing PP and some PK.

I don’t see Bordeleau being a C at the next level. In the admittedly very limited amount games I watched, he was more of a winger that took face offs with Estapa having more of the traditional center responsibilities. I think if you have Bordeleau at C you need to have another C on that line.