Proposal: SJ/NJ
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Poppy Whoa Sonnet
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- Jan 24, 2007
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Unless Meier agrees to an extension as part of the trade, all Bratt/Meier trade talks are DOA. Bratt is supposed to sign a (long term) extension any day now.
II think the trade is closer to even if it's Zacha instead of Bratt personally, I don't really think there's anything reasonable the Sharks can add to make it work.
II think the trade is closer to even if it's Zacha instead of Bratt personally, I don't really think there's anything reasonable the Sharks can add to make it work.
I can't imagine that the Sharks would make this sort of move with Zacha involved.
Zajacs Bowl Cut
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thats a definite no.
Honestly, taking Bratt out of the trade completely would be closer in value IMO. Which obviously would never happen because the Sharks wouldn't do it.
Honestly, taking Bratt out of the trade completely would be closer in value IMO. Which obviously would never happen because the Sharks wouldn't do it.
WingsMJN2965
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The difference between Bratt and Meier’s production this season is so marginal it’s not even worth mentioning.
So the fact that NJD drops from 2 to 11 and gives up the younger, more cost controlled player is pretty ugly.
So the fact that NJD drops from 2 to 11 and gives up the younger, more cost controlled player is pretty ugly.
Totally agree that OP favors sharks in value, but I'd argue that 11th + Meier is significantly more valuable than 2OA in this draft
Arthur Morgan
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ummm no way I'd even come close to considering this if I was NJ
SJ adds big time imo
SJ adds big time imo
If SJ was willing to move Meier, which I doubt, and Meier was willing to extend at something semi-reasonable with NJ, I'd expect a deal with young guys like Holtz and Smith involved, but my guess is that SJ extends Meier to avoid the QO after this upcoming season.
Zajacs Bowl Cut
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Bratt and Meier are basically comparable players, and Bratt is younger by 2 years.
Over the past 3 seasons, Meier is at 0.77 ppg and Bratt is at 0.74 ppg
Over the past 3 seasons, Meier is at 0.77 ppg and Bratt is at 0.74 ppg
Zippy316
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Bratt is a non-starter for trade talks. Especially since he’s likely to be locked up long term at a very very reasonable deal based on comparables. One that he should absolutely out perform if he continues his play from last year.
I think Devils would be interested in Meier + 11 for 2nd +++ but it would have to be Zacha going the other way for the Devils. How to balance the value after that I don’t know but Devils have some pieces like Smith, Zetterlund, Thompson, and Bahl they could put on the table too. I’d be hesitant to add Holtz, but I would say he could be available too only if Meier comes with a long-term extension.
I think Devils would be interested in Meier + 11 for 2nd +++ but it would have to be Zacha going the other way for the Devils. How to balance the value after that I don’t know but Devils have some pieces like Smith, Zetterlund, Thompson, and Bahl they could put on the table too. I’d be hesitant to add Holtz, but I would say he could be available too only if Meier comes with a long-term extension.
Hodge
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Makes sense for the Devils to sign Bratt long term. I thought there were rumblings around the trade deadline that they didn't want to do that but I could be remembering it wrong.
11+Meier for 2+Zacha+Smith seems fair.
Zippy316
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I was thinking something like that too. It’s a little pricey on the Devils side, but I could see it being done if Devils/Severson are close on a long-term deal. Would make Smith somewhat expendable behind Severson/Hamilton for power play minutes.
I think I would want another small plus from the Sharks in an ideal world, but I don’t think that would be a deal breaker either. Maybe add Reimer in the deal?
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Bratt makes everyone he plays with better. I love Meier but I prefer Bratt, so definitely not gonna consider dropping to 11th to make the swap.
Zajacs Bowl Cut
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hidek91
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I'm a big Holtz fan, would love to see him and Eklund reunited. What would the Sharks need to add to Meier + 11OA for Holtz and 2OA?
Depends on what the Devils would be interested in for that scenario. There isn't a lot that the Sharks have that they wouldn't make available for the right deal.
TrufleShufle
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Always wanted Meier with Nico, saw this and got excited, would suck to lose the 2OA, but probably would do it, then saw Bratt......
Gurglesons
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So Bratt is the most overrated player in Jersey then?
This deal is incredibly fair and Meier brings way more of what the Devils need in their top six and Powerplay than Bratt.
This deal is incredibly fair and Meier brings way more of what the Devils need in their top six and Powerplay than Bratt.
Forge
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I don't think the Sharks add there, tbh. And I'm a devils fan.
Bratt produces at a comparable clip to Timo over the last three years. I'll pass on giving up the premium draft pick swap just because Timo is a bigger dude that can hit things...especially since the devils can stay there and pick Slaf.
If Bratt produces at a similar clip to Timo, I'm not sure how the former is overrated.
Gurglesons
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Monsieur Verdoux
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I prefer Meier over Bratt, but when you compare their age and contracts in a couple of years, it isn't incredibly fair anymore. And no way I would sell the 2nd oa in a trade like this.
Bratt + Slafkovsky > Meier + Lekkerimäki (or some similar prospect with that 11th oa pick)
Gecklund
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I’m a huge homer and I don’t know if I’d consider Timo the best power forward in the game. I’d do the original trade but I wouldn’t include 11th for anything without Bratt. This trade doesn’t make too much sense for NJD though without Timo being extended. If Timo signed say 8x8 it would be closer.
Gurglesons
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Who do you take over him?
Especially next to a talent like Hughes or Hischer no offense to Couts and Hertl.
I think the reality is why is San Jose moving Meier for Bratt? Makes no sense.
Forge
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Tkachuk? Thats who first springs to mind for me. He's up there though.
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