Should Rod Brind Amour Be Fired If The Canes Are Eliminated In The ECF?

[WetcoastOrca]

Yes. I’d fire him.
Getting to the Conference finals is great but not being able to even come close to competing at that stage is simply not acceptable. It’s a flawed roster for sure, but a good coach should be able to get more out of it. The results this year are far worse than last year imo. That’s at least partially on the coach.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Nope

 

[Satoru Gojo]

Canes fans will now attack the OP

You don’t question their coach

They love their coach

 

[Son of Nogatco]

No. But he needs to accept better assistant coaching help. I'm fine with Gleason for now, but Jeff Daniels serves no purpose other than being a yes man. I fully expect this to be addressed.

Is it confirmed that RBA is the limiting factor in terms of asst coaches ?

I always hear how ownership is tightfisted when it comes to paying coaches and would wonder whether that’s an obstacle to attracting/retaining great assistants

 

[qcal1427]

Like Keefe with Toronto, is it really Rod's fault? No. At some point do you have to do something different? Yes.

You can't fire the players

 

[Fatass]

Fire Kotkaniemi out of a cannon into the Sun first

I wouldn’t be too surprised if Van comes calling on JK.

 

[Stive Morgan]

I wouldn’t be too surprised if Van comes calling on JK.

I could see that being a good fit for both parties.

 

[JianYang]

It seems like they do need some sort of change behind the bench if they have serious cup aspirations with the current group.

However, i'm thinking if you were to tell ownership that you have a group that will keep getting you consistent 2nd round and 3rd playoff gates year after year, the owner is probably happy from a financial perspective.

I don't see any pressure on rod here both because he's newly signed, and the club (i would assume) has done well financially over this time.

 

[HisIceness]

Is it confirmed that RBA is the limiting factor in terms of asst coaches ?

I always hear how ownership is tightfisted when it comes to paying coaches and would wonder whether that’s an obstacle to attracting/retaining great assistants

I don't really know, but last offseason Rod was pissed his assistants weren't getting "paid".

As fans, I think most of us are cool with Gleason. Jeff Daniels on the other hand is nothing more than a yes man. No team has ever called to ask about his services. He's the one we'd like to see replaced.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

This is the worst Canes team on paper in about 5 years. The getting swept (potentially/probably) in ECF again really blows but it's not on Rod. This was always supposed to be a transition year and the Metro is ass. Panthers are japanese steel sharpened on steel. Canes aren't in their league in the playoffs. Roster needs work.

 

[pld459666]

This is not a coaching issue.

Canes do not match up well with Florida.

Not many teams do.

 

[STL fan in MN]

When he actually loses with a roster that’s better than the team he loses to then I think it’ll be time for a change. But Frederik Andersen vs Bobrovsky? Just no.

To me, they’re a team that consistently overachieves the rosters they’ve had the last 5 or so years. That’s a sign of a coach squeezing every drop out of the turnip IMO, not one that should be fired. Get this guy a legit Cup roster and then we’ll see.

 

[centipede2233]

When he actually loses with a roster that’s better than the team he loses to then I think it’ll be time for a change. But Frederik Andersen vs Bobrovsky? Just no.

To me, they’re a team that consistently overachieves the rosters they’ve had the last 5 or so years. That’s a sign of a coach squeezing every drop out of the turnip IMO, not one that should be fired. Get this guy a legit Cup roster and then we’ll see.

Exactly. If you think a penny pinching owner is gonna axe his coach who constantly has his team overachieving going to the conf finals every other year with all that extra gate and concession revenue, you got another thing coming

 

[T REX]

He'll never win a cup with the outdated system he has...it also seems like no one wants to play in said system so they'll have to overpay players and that will lead to roster holes.

Definition of insanity.

 

[Joe McGrath]

He'll never win a cup with the outdated system he has...it also seems like no one wants to play in said system so they'll have to overpay players and that will lead to roster holes.

Definition of insanity.

As he said in his press conference - it’s pretty much exactly the same system the Panthers run.

 

[T REX]

As he said in his press conference - it’s pretty much exactly the same system the Panthers run.

Even more embarrassing. Maybe he's lost the lockerroom then?

 

[zenator]

They always lose to better, more talented teams, so no.

 

[Mpirone12]

Even more embarrassing. Maybe he's lost the lockerroom then?

That’s a bad take. Having the exact same system and the panthers having far superior players this year and it’s a locker room problem? The cats were the worst possible matchup for the canes. If anything making the ECF with that team on paper is a testament to the locker room and culture.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Even more embarrassing. Maybe he's lost the lockerroom then?

Tell me you don't know anything about the Hurricanes in two sentences. The players absolutely love him and skate through the boards for him. This goes for present and previous players. Hall signed an undermarket extension after being traded there this year because he said he wanted to lock in more time being coached by Rod. This is a veteran former MVP winner. The only player who has ever had bad feelings about the coaching or Canes locker room or whatever under Rod was Haula who was an extremely whiny bitch. You can use Rantanen as an example of someone who didn't want to play there but that was more of a fit thing rather than having issues with the team culture or coaching.

 

[MoneyManny]

Like Keefe with Toronto, is it really Rod's fault? No. At some point do you have to do something different? Yes.

You can't fire the players

The difference is, Rod makes it to the final 4 without a top 4 roster.

Keefe couldn't get out of the first round with a better team.

RBD is as consistent as a clock. Firing him would be insanity.

 

[qcal1427]

The difference is, Rod makes it to the final 4 without a top 4 roster.

Keefe couldn't get out of the first round with a better team.

RBD is as consistent as a clock. Firing him would be insanity.

Yea obviously it's a better version of Keefe but the same team playing the same way with the same coach keeps coming up short at the same stage in the same way.

Sometimes doing something different just for the sake of doing something different is the right call and I think Carolina is at that stage. Changing the coach is the most straightforward way to do something different.

 

[MoneyManny]

Yea obviously it's a better version of Keefe but the same team playing the same way with the same coach keeps coming up short at the same stage in the same way.

Sometimes doing something different just for the sake of doing something different is the right call and I think Carolina is at that stage. Changing the coach is the most straightforward way to do something different.

I wouldn't call ECF as "coming up short". The league isn't pre-expansion anymore, winning the cup with 32 teams, guaranteed contracts and the hardest salary cap in sports isn't easy and i'm not convinced anybody could squeeze more than Rod out of that roster.

I get that firing him to give fans the illusion of hope for a season is what front offices love to do, but i think they would regret it. A sizeable part of why we all see Carolina as a well run organisation is their head coach.

Which coach makes the Canes beat the Panthers?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Not just this thread but it seems like we have a thread on every coach who got knocked out in the playoffs and whether or not they should be fired

 

[qcal1427]

I wouldn't call ECF as "coming up short". The league isn't pre-expansion anymore, winning the cup with 32 teams, guaranteed contracts and the hardest salary cap in sports isn't easy and i'm not convinced anybody could squeeze more than Rod out of that roster.

Just because it's hard to win the cup doesn't mean that the teams that lose don't come up short. It's not fair but that's life. 1-12 in conference final games under Rod is also at this point not a coincidence

I get that firing him to give fans the illusion of hope for a season is what front offices love to do, but i think they would regret it.

Which coach makes the Canes beat the Panthers, Scotty Bowman maybe?

I don't know which coach definitively beats the Panthers and I agree that making changes to the roster is probably the more logical move. Making changes to a roster, especially big ones, is difficult to do though. Firing a coach is easy.

Sometimes things just get stale and it's now been 7 years of Rod as a head coach and 14 with him behind the bench in Carolina in some capacity. I get the resistance to "change for the sake of change" but often times that's is needed

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Aho said it the best. The team wasnt build well enough. The coach got the max out of them.