Should Jagr get exempted into the HHOF?

[NVious]

So not Jagr then?

Yeah definitely not the guy still playing pro Hockey in his 50s who is 2nd all time in points, that would be a travesty and an insult to the legends like Chris Osgood, Kevin Lowe and Bernie Federko.

 

[jigglysquishy]

Yeah definitely not the guy still playing pro Hockey in his 50s who is 2nd all time in points, that would be a travesty and an insult to the legends like Chris Osgood, Kevin Lowe and Bernie Federko.

I mean he's not a consensus top 10 all time.

If he gets to skip the line, why not Roy or Hasek or Lidstrom or Bourque? They are all in the same calibre and retired post Gretzky and had to wait.

If he skips then so too will Crosby and Ovechkin and McDavid.

 

[GMR]

I mean he's not a consensus top 10 all time.

If he gets to skip the line, why not Roy or Hasek or Lidstrom or Bourque? They are all in the same calibre and retired post Gretzky and had to wait.

If he skips then so too will Crosby and Ovechkin and McDavid.

Because his situation is unique, unlike Roy, Lidstrom, or even Hasek who kept retiring and coming back one or two years later. Jagr is now in his 50s and hasn't played in the NHL for six seasons. He's a part-timer in a lesser league who is hotdogging it. And happens to be one of the greatest players ever.

It will be strange when he's inducted in 2035 (or whenever the hell he retires).

 

[NVious]

I mean he's not a consensus top 10 all time.

If he gets to skip the line, why not Roy or Hasek or Lidstrom or Bourque? They are all in the same calibre and retired post Gretzky and had to wait.

If he skips then so too will Crosby and Ovechkin and McDavid.

Cuz he's still playing whereas the others retired/will retire in their early 40s.

 

[MadLuke]

If he gets to skip the line, why not Roy or Hasek or Lidstrom or Bourque? They are all in the same calibre and retired post Gretzky and had to wait.

It would be because he did not play high level hockey / lot of games by season for a long time, if the hall consider for him retirement to be the 2022 season instead of 2025 and to induct him the summer he officially retire that would still be different not in all but in some way from people that retire from the NHL.

A bit of an in-between, not sure if it something Jagr would want (what would it say about its league, considering the 20-15 games a year with 15-10 points a season maybe he would not mind and not take it as a attack on Czech hockey and just a nice honor), it would be 3-4 years waiting period after your semi-retirement.... situation.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Put Crosby right now then.

 

[JackSlater]

No one should be exempt. They have a rule, stick to it.

 

[jigglysquishy]

We're going to do this in 5 years too when Ovechkin does his victory lap in the KHL.

And in 8 years when Crosby joins my beer league team.

 

[MadLuke]

Either way, there is not an issue here (say they do it for Jagr and then do it for Ovechkin and Crosby beer leaguing after retiring a bit..) so ?

Cannot see any issue if they do it for Jagr, cannot see any issue if they don't, it is the most, they can do as they please debate I can think of. There is 0 risk that after they put him in the HHOF he make an nhl comeback that make the situation look strange. There is 0 argument they are better to cool down and take some higher cooler view of his career before deciding and so on.

Nothing bad can come of this either way for us to care I feel like.

 

[GMR]

Put Crosby right now then.

Has he played in Europe the last six seasons?

Is he older than most GMs and owners?

 

[Crosby2010]

I would not have got Clapper, Lindsay or Kelly either (even if I had seen that list before and was not surprised, still forget about them being on it every time):

• 1947 – Dit Clapper retired on February 12, 1947.
• 1961 – Maurice "Rocket" Richard retired following the 1960-61 season.
• 1966 – Ted Lindsay retired in 1965.
• 1969 – Leonard "Red" Kelly retired in 1967.
• 1971 – Terry Sawchuk passed away in Summer of '70.
• 1972 – Jean Beliveau retired in 1972.
• 1972 – Gordie Howe retired in 1972, came out of retirement in 1973.
• 1979 – Bobby Orr retired in 1979 due to knee injury.
• 1997 – Mario Lemieux retired in 1997, came out of retirement in 2000.
• 1999 – Wayne Gretzky retired in 1999.

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Yeah no doubt, I am the same with Clapper. Kelly too. If they didn't do it for Harvey I didn't even look up Kelly to double check. Lindsay is an interesting one because he doesn't fit the bill quite so much. He retired in 1960. Wasn't given exemption status, But 1963 was the year for him to get in. But this was the year they must have dropped the maximum amount to 4 players, because he didn't make the cut and they were putting earlier guys in before him. Then in 1965 and 1966 they went well beyond the maximum 4 players and Lindsay got inducted in 1966. This could be because he came back for a season in 1965 and then retired a 2nd time. Maybe they felt he put in his time in between retirements perhaps?

 

[The Panther]

The answer to the thread question is clearly "no".

But I wonder if it isn't time to change the rules a bit for the "Hall of Cronyism" induction policy. Maybe change it to five years minimum after retirement or when a player hits age 50... whichever comes first (usually the former).

 

[Michael Farkas]

Has he played in Europe the last six seasons?

Is he older than most GMs and owners?

No clue, are those criteria for anything?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Hasn't played in the NHL since 2018.

He's only played around 150 games since then in the Czech leagues. That's not much over five or six years.

Top 10 all time player.

Big name and hockey ambassador during the 1990s.

The fact both Pronger and Weber got in with valid active contracts?..Why not