Shot from the Point

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OneTimer82

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Hi All,

Long time reader, first time poster.

It’s 4:34am in T.O and another first round exit has me laying wake in bed haha.

A persistent weakness with this group (who’ve suffered 6 consecutive first round losses) is the lack of a point shot.
I believe its one of the issues that underpin the group’s failures.

It was apparent during the 3rd period of last night’s game. Excluding Matthews (and possibly Muzzin) the leafs had no legitimate threats from the point. It allowed Tampa ( with confidence) to collapse down low and block shots.

It also makes our PP painfully predictable as AM34 is the only real threat to shoot. Again this was evident in game 7.

Is there any reason why Rielly (our # 1 d man) can’t work/develop a legitimate slapshot?

Hasn’t Keefe/management recognized this as an issue?
 
Hi All,

Long time reader, first time poster.

It’s 4:34am in T.O and another first round exit has me laying wake in bed haha.

A persistent weakness with this group (who’ve suffered 6 consecutive first round losses) is the lack of a point shot.
I believe its one of the issues that underpin the group’s failures.

It was apparent during the 3rd period of last night’s game. Excluding Matthews (and possibly Muzzin) the leafs had no legitimate threats from the point. It allowed Tampa ( with confidence) to collapse down low and block shots.

It also makes our PP painfully predictable as AM34 is the only real threat to shoot. Again this was evident in game 7.

Is there any reason why Rielly (our # 1 d man) can’t work/develop a legitimate slapshot?

Hasn’t Keefe/management recognized this as an issue?
Good post. I agree. I think we have to make some bold moves in the summer to address some of these glaring weaknesses.
 
The forwards also need to cover the points better on the penalty kill. They gave Tampa's D 10 feet of space or more at times, to allow Tampa to do their thing without pressure. This isn't something that should be happening with NHLers, maybe Peewee. Change the coaching staff.
 
Couldn't watch game 7... did Keefe not try Gio on the point on pp1 again? He did it once in game 5 and we scored on that powerplay and then it was right back to Reilly. Drives me crazy. Hope Liljegren gets a look in Reilly's spot next year. Problem is it's really hard to justify Mo's contract when he isn't farming points on the powerplay.
 
Muzzin scored 2 identical goals in the first 4 games and then never took the shot again. I don’t understand why he wasn’t setting up that shot every chance he got.
 
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You're not developing a shot at this point in your career. Think of the pucks they have shot to this point in their careers.

Pp issues were more puck movement related than point shot. We didn't go through the middle at all or open things up, way too much holding on the outside and not enough movement
 
Good thread. In addition to Rielly not possessing a legitimate shooting threat, he also makes very slow decisions while being the QB of PP1. It’s just not something he’ll ever do at a high level.

I would kick tires on Klingberg and Chychrun. If other teams gave Chychrun the time and space that they give Rielly on our PP, they would very soon regret it.
 
You're not developing a shot at this point in your career. Think of the pucks they have shot to this point in their careers.

Pp issues were more puck movement related than point shot. We didn't go through the middle at all or open things up, way too much holding on the outside and not enough movement
I’m not suggesting that Rielly develops a 97 mph slapper. But he’s a professional, can he at least develop something that is usable?

Also I don’t agree that pp issues were due to movement. With the lack of a shooting threat teams can better defend the pp.

Muzzin scored 2 identical goals in the first 4 games and then never took the shot again. I don’t understand why he wasn’t setting up that shot every chance he got.
Yup, was reading a separate thread and the poster highlighted Keefe’s inability to make in game changes. This is yet another example.
 
Couldn't watch game 7... did Keefe not try Gio on the point on pp1 again? He did it once in game 5 and we scored on that powerplay and then it was right back to Reilly. Drives me crazy. Hope Liljegren gets a look in Reilly's spot next year. Problem is it's really hard to justify Mo's contract when he isn't farming points on the powerplay.
Rielly is a polarizing player. I like you find he frustrates more often that note. He is beyond predictable on the PP. He absolutely needs to be taken off the first unit.

Agreed that Liljegren should get a look; think Sandin warrants consideration.
 
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I’m not suggesting that Rielly develops a 97 mph slapper. But he’s a professional, can he at least develop something that is usable?

Also I don’t agree that pp issues were due to movement. With the lack of a shooting threat teams can better defend the pp.
He has a competent shot, but it's not a threat and never will be (Rielly) they had Matthews and Nylander on either side as shooting options, but nothing opened up because they didn't go through the D ever, they went around it which allows Tampa to close off shots.
 
Good thread. In addition to Rielly not possessing a legitimate shooting threat, he also makes very slow decisions while being the QB of PP1. It’s just not something he’ll ever do at a high level.

I would kick tires on Klingberg and Chychrun. If other teams gave Chychrun the time and space that they give Rielly on our PP, they would very soon regret it.
Totally agree. This deficiency is an example of regular season hockey vs. Playoff hockey.

Some fans will quickly counter the Rielly argument and point out that he had 6 points (3 goals in the series). But he / or keefe’s deployment of personnel do not address this glaring issue.

Maybe it’s a philosophical change the team needs to make, but I’m convinced that until they do the leafs will continue you to lose.
 
He has a competent shot, but it's not a threat and never will be (Rielly) they had Matthews and Nylander on either side as shooting options, but nothing opened up because they didn't go through the D ever, they went around it which allows Tampa to close off shots.
Well, that’s an issue and he should not be on the first PP.

The PP struggled over the series.
 
I'm not really so concerned with a point shot. I'd just like some D that play the body instead of the puck. So you know, you don't get walked by Nick Paul in game 7.
 
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The forwards also need to cover the points better on the penalty kill. They gave Tampa's D 10 feet of space or more at times, to allow Tampa to do their thing without pressure. This isn't something that should be happening with NHLers, maybe Peewee. Change the coaching staff.
Yup - great point.

Kucherov is a great player, but too many times was he allowed to dance around with the puck before shooting/ passing.

Pressure is a fundamental of a PK. Lack of it is unacceptable in my beer league haha.

I'm not really so concerned with a point shot. I'd just like some D that play the body instead of the puck. So you know, you don't get walked by Nick Paul in game 7.
The 2nd goal was painful to watch....friggin Nick Paul plays game 7 hero and outscores the Leafs. Makes me sick!!!
 
That's what I've thought for many years now. You can't really open up the D on a PP if the shot from the point isn't a threat. Which makes feeding your shooters that much harder.
 
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Sandin has a good shot and isn't afraid to let it loose. We also need a big net front presence that can tip / bang though so that it's effective.
 
This issue somewhat resolved starting playoffs with Liljegren. Then we messed up the balance taking him out.

Lots of opportunity last night for him to get pucks through.

I see lots say we don't need Jakob Chychrun. Last night prove how wrong they are and were.

Use Sandin to get Chych, make Lil a permanent player and your shot from point issue is solved over night.
 
Ive been saying this for years…….I get nervous when the puck goes back to Hedman.
when the puck goes back to a Leaf D man I don’t get the same feeling. The leafs D have terrible slap shots……
Felt the exact same way throughout the series brother.
 
Rielly is NOT a #1 PP QB dman. Never has been, never will be. Dubas just can't accept this fact. FYI, its more important to get the shot through consistently given how PKs are structured currently.

Rielly is more of a rush defenseman when it comes to offense. He distributes the puck too slowly and tentatively on the blueline and lacks the like walking dynamism to pull open defensive seams. He also has no blueline shot. I think we just need a simpler PP set up next year with a bi-polar shot threat in Matthews on the faceoff dot and a blueline clapper on the opposite side or umbrella formation and just let pucks rip.
 

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