Shocking: Lindy Ruff isn’t a good coach, and the owner is the problem in Buffalo

benfranklin

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How is it the owners fault?
It is assumed/confirmed via other GM's that have quit (Lafontaine) and content the Sabres have put out that Pegula is heavily involved in decision making.

And sadly the fans have had the pitchforks for everyone else but him so might as well keep going up the chain of command.
 

Rabid Ranger

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Perhaps Pegula is meddlesome. Perhaps Ruff is past his prime. That said, the Sabres are simply an average team. They are basically .500 with about scoring and slightly below average goals against. They have some star caliber players, but no one that is top tier.
 

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How the f*** do u lose a game up 4-0 in the 1st? LOL

Pittsburgh has been exceptionally good this year at blowing multi-goal leads, we usually have to score at least five goals to hope to have a chance to hold on for a W. If not it's like clockwork that we're going to blow the lead and earn an L.
 

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It is assumed/confirmed via other GM's that have quit (Lafontaine) and content the Sabres have put out that Pegula is heavily involved in decision making.

And sadly the fans have had the pitchforks for everyone else but him so might as well keep going up the chain of command.
He only does this for hockey not football? Bills have been running well under Beane. Biggest thing an owner needs to do is hire a competent GM.
 

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I don't follow much football, but a friend of mine claims the Pegulas view the Sabres as second tier compared to their real cash cow, the Bills.
 

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He only does this for hockey not football? Bills have been running well under Beane. Biggest thing an owner needs to do is hire a competent GM.
Someone in either this thread or a different one about the Sabres said that the front office of the Bills demanded clauses in their contracts to, essentially, tell Pegula to back off of football operations and let them cook. It's worked to their benefit. Prior to that, it was much the same story as the Sabres.
 

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Someone in either this thread or a different one about the Sabres said that the front office of the Bills demanded clauses in their contracts to, essentially, tell Pegula to back off of football operations and let them cook. It's worked to their benefit. Prior to that, it was much the same story as the Sabres.
Beane arrived in 2017. Bills had Taylor at QB, but through the TDL and up to the draft, Beane was moving vets out to add more draft capital to move up in the 2018 draft. Got like a 2nd for Darby from PHI and sent an OL to Cincy in a draft pick swap before ultimately flipping 1sts with TB while sending 2 seconds over to secure the pick used for Allen.

I don't think the likes of Botterrill/Adams have that kind of clout coming in. Beane worked 18 years in Carolina before joining Buffalo.
 

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Buffalo is in the longest postseason drought in NHL history. 13 years and counting. How do you miss the playoffs 13 straight years in a cap league where half the teams make the playoffs every season?

There's gross incompetence there, but the coach is not the problem. Far from it.

Having been through that as a Florida fan, long stretches of missing the playoffs, it's starts from the ownership down.
Owner hires a cheap/unqualified GM or President(Yorkmark)
GM's have no vision or are cap strapped in the offseason.
Coach budget is smaller/can't compete.

Doesn't matter how many high draft picks you have when it's endless dysfunction. Then the players get the "suck" and regress or don't hit their potential.

It's no coincidence Florida making the playoffs regularly came from getting rid of the older owner, and the new one, Viola, actually spending the money in scouting, coaching, and then allowing their GM to run the team without strings.
 

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Pegula is just Aquilini minus the child support.

To be fair to Aquaman, he’s been out of the picture since Jim Rutherford took over as president of hockey operation.

So that way Aquaman can chill with Michael Buble, Chelsea Green and having some chill time doing some bumps.
 

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He lucked into getting people who saw what Josh Allen would be and not even the Pegulas could F that up.

No one player on an NHL team has as much impact on team success as an NFL QB.

No. The Bills are an extremely well run franchise in every sense. Both on and off the field. It wasn’t lucking into people that found a QB. Maybe lucking into an extremely good coach and GM that can run a team as good as anyone else, sure.

I think Pegula has been equally unlucky in finding the right people to run the Sabres. You’d think by dumb luck someone competent would have gotten ahold of this team
 
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I don't watch Buffalo every game, but what I've seen from Buffalo there isn't a single dman on that team I'd fully trust out there towards the end of it to defend the lead.

Sabres need players on the back end who are competent defensively, or get someone else so Dahlin can play less, as his defensive awareness being weak could be from being overplayed.
You know, it's true. When people keep saying teams are ultra talented, it just means they can put up points in free-wheeling, offensive systems with no structure.

Anaheim, Buffalo, are in the same boat. Lots of high end offensive talent but not even close to competitive in the recent past.

I'm a Flyers fan, and we generally have the opposite problem - but Torts bangs our our defenseman (Drysdale being the latest example - literally said he doesn't know how to play D) that they have no idea 'how to check' at this level. It's alarmingly true; people complain that Torts employs a defensive system; he doesn't, actually. He is asking all his d-men to be aggressive and push the play, but when that doesn't work, know how to defend and get the puck back. Same request to the forwards.

It seems like that aspect is lost on a lot of the other organizations - akin to the 'culture' word we all hate. But I do think it plays a part here. Far be it for me to defend the Flyers and their organization, but Shaw and Torts know how to create defensemen, and a team culture of responsibility.
 

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No. The Bills are an extremely well run franchise in every sense. Both on and off the field. It wasn’t lucking into people that found a QB. Maybe lucking into an extremely good coach and GM that can run a team as good as anyone else, sure.

I think Pegula has been equally unlucky in finding the right people to run the Sabres. You’d think by dumb luck someone competent would have gotten ahold of this team
Everyone has memory holed his first big idea for the Bills:
 

Dubi Doo

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Ruff has proven he can get teams to the playoffs. Is he an elite coach? No, but he's solid. The Sabres are just a mess in general.
 

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