Shesterkin: Early Hart Favourite?

[TGWL]

There's a lot of players currently performing well or even above expectations. So, no, I don't think Shesterkin is an early favorite, but I suppose you can claim an early nomination candidate.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Nah Panarin and Fox are too good in front of him to ever get it. Conn Smythe he could win.

And in terms of goalie at this mark of the seasons, Helleybuyck and Dostal have been equally good on worse teams.

Hellebuyck has a GSAE of 1.1. Shestyorkin is at 11.6. It’s not even close at this point.

And I have no clue what your point about Panarin and Fox means.

 

[Toby91ca]

And in terms of goalie at this mark of the seasons, Helleybuyck and Dostal have been equally good on worse teams.

Isn't Helleybuyck's team 11-1 right now with the best offense in the league?

 

[57special]

What do you guys think? He is the face of the rangers right now and, regardless of how they do any given night, rangers are a tough out to anyone solely due to him.

In the highly unlikely event that they take a goalie, has Shesterkin really separated himself all that much from Hellebuyck, Dostal, and Gustavsson?

 

[57special]

Makar is tied for the league point lead as a dman. He's been apart of 53% of Colorados goals.

unless CO starts winning, it won't matter.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

In the highly unlikely event that they take a goalie, has Shesterkin really separated himself all that much from Hellebuyck, Dostal, and Gustavsson?

Look at GSAx for Hellebuyck. Not in the same stratosphere as Igor (and Dostal).

 

[Peltz]

It's kind of weird. Very early in the season but it's been a tale of two seasons. Soft schedule early but they went from being a team that was a juggernaut offensively and a little leaky defensively with goaltending patching some holes but not in any unreasonable way. And the second half it's basically a team that's good at nothing but goaltending and PK. So without Igor we're probably a .500 team but this is a very concerning new development. I have no idea if that's what we'll see the rest of the season. We went from the 2022 Colorado Avalenche with better goaltending to the 2024 San Jose Sharks with better goaltending.

It's still early.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Look at GSAx for Hellebuyck. Not in the same stratosphere as Igor (and Dostal).

Yeah, and he's also definitely separated himself at this point from Gustavsson.

It's very early in the season, but the two Vezina frontrunners at this early point are Dostal and Shestyorkin. Chances are that Dostal probably can't keep this season up, considering how bad of a team he plays for and that he's still young and hasn't really had that great season yet. Going from an underrated backup/tandem guy to winning the Vezina in one season is a huge leap. Most likely, he won't make such a quick jump and will trail off at some point to a good season but not a Vezina season. Shestyorkin has the track record to think it's possible he can sustain this (or close) throughout the full season.

 

[benfranklin]

Hellebuyck has a GSAE of 1.1. Shestyorkin is at 11.6. It’s not even close at this point.

And I have no clue what your point about Panarin and Fox means.

Isn't Helleybuyck's team 11-1 right now with the best offense in the league?

Im going off what the writers vote on. Wins, GAA, SV %. All three are pretty similar right now.

Youre lying to yourself if you think many, if any voters will dive into advanced analytics.

If all three are equalish, Dostal gets the nod because of the worse team in front of him and slam dunk if the Ducks are sniffing the playoffs.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Im going off what the writers vote on. Wins, GAA, SV %. All three are pretty similar right now.

Youre lying to yourself if you think many, if any voters will dive into advanced analytics.

If all three are equalish, Dostal gets the nod because of the worse team in front of him and slam dunk if the Ducks are sniffing the playoffs.

I think you aren’t giving the voters enough credit. Not saying they’re all analytical nerds, but talking about GAA and Wins is out of like a 1960’s playbook. Most people know how to use websites like Natural Stat Trick, Evolving Hockey, and Money Puck. SV% is also widely viewed around the hockey world as the more indicative of basic stats.