Confirmed with Link: Sheldon Keefe Fired -- Discussion Thread

[Magic Man]

He was my top pick also, until i realized that he failed just as much with a far better 'team' than we have, so, is he really an upgrade if he cannot adapt in the playoffs and get the Canes out of the 2nd round?

The Hurricanes have made it past the first round 6 years in a row. Making it past the second round 2 of those times. The Leafs have 1 playoff round win in 9 years.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Yep but he's the human equvliant of a human word salad. He says a lot of words, without actually saying anything.

But if he actually said Tuesday then that's not nothing that's an actual date

 

[thinkblue]

 

[Menzinger]

Rod's contract is up; it's actually not his call. And the Hurricanes owner is REALLY, REALLY cheap (apparently the holdup is that not only do they not want to pay Rod, but they don't want to pay any of his coaching staff, either).

They were really cheap on their GM salaries too, a running trend with with them it seems

 

[HEAVY DUTY]

Craig Berube far down the road to be next Maple Leafs head coach

According to multiple sources, Elliotte Friedman reports the Maple Leafs are far down the road to hiring Craig Berube as head coach.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[Magic Man]

1. Brind'amour
2. Berube
3. Quenneville
4. Gallant
5. McLellan

 

[The Masters]

I forgot that Darren Dreger knows eveyrthing about the Leafs and what they're doing despite not being right about anything since Nonis was fired.

Fried has been reporting Berube all week

 

[WTFMAN99]

It's basically done

I wouldn't even be surprised if in the next hour the Leafs twitter made it official and said the press conference is on Tuesday.

Now that Dreger & Friedman basically have unofficially confirmed it.

 

[myleafs]

Not to mention that besides Sammy, what killed the Leafs were problems that have killed them in the last few playoff appearances... Which oddly, only appeared when Sheldon Keefe started coaching the team. But then, there appears to be a group of Leaf fans who have decided that 5 years of the same problems are entirely on the players and Keefe needs to be let off the hook because he said he took responsibility in his last press conference.

Maybe I have that group of people on ignore cause everything Ive read does not let Keefe off the hook and almost all are good with him being let go. The fact he took responsibility for his part shows he doesnt have his head totally in the sand unlike our core guys who didnt take responsibility.

 

[The Masters]

It's basically done

I wouldn't even be surprised if in the next hour the Leafs twitter made it official and said the press conference is on Tuesday.

Now that Dreger & Friedman basically have unofficially confirmed it.

Deal is done. They were already talking Savard joining Leafs few days ago which meant deal was agreed upon

 

[mydnyte]

The Hurricanes have made it past the first round 6 years in a row. Making it past the second round 2 of those times. The Leafs have 1 playoff round win in 9 years.

That is still the easier division to get out of with weaker teams.
Even with Keefe, I'd think the Leafs would have done at least as good if they played in that division, since the Leafs tend to lose to the Cup winner or finalist every year, but, always push them to the brink, but, could never get the job done.

I love the way his teams play, and the structure, but, its getting your guys over the hump thats missing.

I'd definitely not be disappointed if we were lucky enough to get him, as he's a coach I've admired for years, but, he still may not be the 'right' coach, as he also seems to be dedicated to players. i.e. Anderson

we need a tough love coach who gets the best results out of his guys when it matters most, whomever that is.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Deal is done. They were already talking Savard joining Leafs few days ago which meant deal was agreed upon

That part is weird to me, he lead Calgary to the 26th best PP in the league.

 

[The Masters]

That part is weird to me, he lead Calgary to the 26th best PP in the league.

Likely prior relationship. On his St louis staff

 

[mydnyte]

Fried has been reporting Berube all week

Bissonnette called out Berube as the Leafs next coach during an intermission, and Berube's face went cold... it may have been in the works for a while.

 

[Evilhomer]

Bissonnette called out Berube as the Leafs next coach during an intermission, and Berube's face went cold... it may have been in the works for a while.

If anyone believes this whole process has been anything other than the Leafs working backwards to paint a picture of alleged diligence, I have a bridge to sell you. It's no different than the GM "search", and that's fine so long as it works out.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

It's wild that players I used to play with in NHL 95 are now coaches

 

[WTFMAN99]

Bissonnette called out Berube as the Leafs next coach during an intermission, and Berube's face went cold... it may have been in the works for a while.

Someone on twitter was saying since Berube was let go he kind of insinuated in a lot of radio / podcast hits he'd want the job.

I can't find the link or anything right now but not surprised, as much as people shit on Toronto, it's a very in demand job.

 

[mydnyte]

Someone on twitter was saying since Berube was let go he kind of insinuated in a lot of radio / podcast hits he'd want the job.

I can't find the link or anything right now but not surprised, as much as people shit on Toronto, it's a very in demand job.

the coach (and players) who wins the Leafs a Cup will be immortalized forever.

and with the exodus on defense and the plethora of UFA D-Men (plus our Core-4) the Leafs job, though more stressful than most, is very desirable.

Coaches must watch and salivate, thinking what they would do differently to fix any deficiencies they see, and if we can bring in these 2 D men, or add this C the team will be a legit contender.

If I was a coach, I would want to try Marner as #2C. he plays a strong 2-way game, and he'd done it in JR's, and all he would need to do is get to 50% on faceoffs.

 

[WTFMAN99]

the coach (and players) who wins the Leafs a Cup will be immortalized forever.

and with the exodus on defense and the plethora of UFA D-Men (plus our Core-4) the Leafs job, though more stressful than most, is very desirable.

Coaches must watch and salivate, thinking what they would do differently to fix any deficiencies they see, and if we can bring in these 2 D men, or add this C the team will be a legit contender.

If I was a coach, I would want to try Marner as #2C. he plays a strong 2-way game, and he'd done it in JR's, and all he would need to do is get to 50% on faceoffs.

He wasn't that good at centre in his D+1 year, they ended up putting him up with Tkachuk and Dvorak, the team was better for it.

 

[The Masters]

 

[baton elevated]

1. Brind'amour
2. Berube
3. Quenneville
4. Gallant
5. McLellan

No love for Julien?

 

[3blizzard4]

Excellent. A no nonsense guy behind the bench.

But please make some major roster changes too.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

He's won the Stanley Cup in the last 5 years
He's generally well liked by his players
He's a no nonsense guy
He's intense

I'm sure he'll be fine.

I'm just glad it wasn't Quenneville which would have been a classless hire

 

[Suntouchable13]

Not to mention that besides Sammy, what killed the Leafs were problems that have killed them in the last few playoff appearances... Which oddly, only appeared when Sheldon Keefe started coaching the team. But then, there appears to be a group of Leaf fans who have decided that 5 years of the same problems are entirely on the players and Keefe needs to be let off the hook because he said he took responsibility in his last press conference.

Again with Samsonov, you want him to win game 7 1-0 with all the supposed firepower we have? What killed them is the core players are as soft as butter. That will not change with the new coach. book it. We have to change the core as well, not just a coach. People think Berube is here now, we will make a deep run. That's horse shit. This team is not going anywhere with the same core + tweaking around the periphery again.

 

[mikeyz]

Yeah, they got to the second round twice, in what was at the time the worst division in hockey.

They still got there.

Again with Samsonov, you want him to win game 7 1-0 with all the supposed firepower we have? What killed them is the core players are as soft as butter. That will not change with the new coach. book it. We have to change the core as well, not just a coach. People think Berube is here now, we will make a deep run. That's horse shit. This team is not going anywhere with the same core + tweaking around the periphery again.

If I could like this post a million times, I would.

Very well said.