Value of: Shea Weber to TOR

[Legion34]

Well a number of us would say Matt Martin, but given that he's a mainstay on the 4th line and the Leafs went as far as protecting him in the expansion draft I'd say the Leafs don't see him as a cap dump.

I agree. I think martin will be a dump in year 4. But that’s about it.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Toronto isnt kick-starting any teams rebuild right now.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Ok . If you want to play that card, the Habs aren't going anywhere at all this season.

True as well. Facts are facts, what's the problem?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Yeah good luck affording Weber's $7.8 million cap hit for the foreseeable future, Plus locking up both Marner and Nylander for $7 million and Matthews for $11 million and no being in cap hell. That's like $32.8 million tied up in 4 players long term. No way can the Leafs afford to take on Webers contract.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Lots of Retention or its not happening.
Still questions about his fit with the D mentality as it stands.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Yeah good luck affording Weber's $7.8 million cap hit for the foreseeable future, Plus locking up both Marner and Nylander for $7 million and Matthews for $11 million and no being in cap hell. That's like $32.8 million tied up in 4 players long term. No way can the Leafs afford to take on Webers contract.

We didn't start the thread and its dubious this even happens.

 

[branch]

Weber won't command a premium return. This is the fault of a terrible talent evaluator in Bergevin. He traded a guy objectively worth way more for the guy who is not worth much due to financials.

 

[Morgs]

The only way I'd even touch Weber is if the deal starts with Marleau AND Martin. Even then it's an albatross of a contract that we don't need.

They'd ask for assets we wouldn't even think about dealing.

 

[Paneerboy]

True as well. Facts are facts, what's the problem?

There's no problem. Well, besides the fact you were insulted enough at my post to take a shot at the Leafs, which may be a problem for you if you get irritated at people not liking your offers.

Everyone's a critic, and not everyone will agree with you. If that's tough to grasp, stay away from the Internet.

 

[34]

First off, this proposal was offered by a Habs fan, NOT a Leafs fan!

Shea Weber is a legit #1 D. Big, strong and a bomb of a shot and also a great leader. He fits the bill for exactly the D man Toronto would like to have. (Any team in the NHL for that fact)

A few issues...he is getting older now and not sure how long before he starts to regress. Also the fact that his cap his is $12M. There is no way Toronto can fit him under that cap, knowing they have to sign Matthews (who will likely get $12M), then Nylander, Marner and Gardiner will all need contracts. From a business point in the NHL, a Weber trade to Toronto will never work.

Matthews, Marner and Nylander are all untouchable as well. Toronto can not afford to trade 20 year old stars for a D man who will be 33 y/o soon. Huge fan of Weber, but a trade does not make sense. Toronto is at the start of hopefully building a dynasty, can not trade the young bucks.

 

[Paneerboy]

First off, this proposal was offered by a Habs fan, NOT a Leafs fan!

Shea Weber is a legit #1 D. Big, strong and a bomb of a shot and also a great leader. He fits the bill for exactly the D man Toronto would like to have. (Any team in the NHL for that fact)

A few issues...he is getting older now and not sure how long before he starts to regress. Also the fact that his cap his is $12M. There is no way Toronto can fit him under that cap, knowing they have to sign Matthews (who will likely get $12M), then Nylander, Marner and Gardiner will all need contracts. From a business point in the NHL, a Weber trade to Toronto will never work.

Matthews, Marner and Nylander are all untouchable as well. Toronto can not afford to trade 20 year old stars for a D man who will be 33 y/o soon. Huge fan of Weber, but a trade does not make sense. Toronto is at the start of hopefully building a dynasty, can not trade the young bucks.

Nitpicking but Weber's cap hit is $7.857M, not $12M. His salary is $12M.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Don't see Montreal saying we made a mistake so soon and trade Weber away unless Toronto traded something impossible to pass up which I just don't see happening.

 

[34]

Nitpicking but Weber's cap hit is $7.857M, not $12M. His salary is $12M.

ok, corrected.

 

[1909]

Nitpicking but Weber's cap hit is $7.857M, not $12M. His salary is $12M.

Right. And his last big bonus of 8 milion was paid last July by the Habs. He is now very affordable. His salary will be around 6 milion next season. Leafs are super rich anyway... And we know that Babcock loves him. He loves Price too....

Marmer + next year Leafs 1st draft pick would be enough for Weber.

 

[Jozay]

Leafs definitely wont be taking on that contract, unless Montreal retains a healthy amount of it.

 

[DatSnipeMatthews]

I want no part of that contract. I wouldn't even trade this year's 1st rounder for him unless Montreal retained at least 2 million for the duration of the contract. I don't like the length but he is definitely tradeable to a team that doesn't spend to the cap given that he only makes 3 million in salary in 2022-2023 and then 1 million in 2023-2024.

Is Nashville on the hook if he retires early?

 

[Jozay]

Right. And his last big bonus of 8 milion was paid last July by the Habs. He is now very affordable. And we know that Babcock lives him.

Marmer + next year Leafs 1st draft pick would be enough.

Leafs would never do this lol

 

[Seras]

Cannot afford the cap hit nor the loss of young talent.

Best to stay the course.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Right. And his last big bonus of 8 milion was paid last July by the Habs. He is now very affordable. His salary will be around 6 milion next season. Leafs are super rich anyway... And we know that Babcock loves him. He loves Price too....

Marmer + next year Leafs 1st draft pick would be enough for Weber.

How affordable the actual salary is means nothing to Toronto. That's a selling point to a team like Arizona.

Your proposal isn't worth commenting on.

 

[Paneerboy]

Right. And his last big bonus of 8 milion was paid last July by the Habs. He is now very affordable. His salary will be around 6 milion next season. Leafs are super rich anyway... And we know that Babcock loves him. He loves Price too....

Marmer + next year Leafs 1st draft pick would be enough for Weber.

The salary is never a problem for the Leafs, it's the cap hit. AFAIK and from CapFriendly, Weber's $7.857M cap hit doesn't change at all throughout the duration of his deal, which will be a major hindrance to the Leafs sooner rather than later.

As for the offer, I'm sure it would be, but it's not an offer the Leafs would consider, even for a second.

 

[DatSnipeMatthews]

I'd actually trade Kapanen plus this year's second rounder if Montreal retained 2 million.

 

[1909]

How affordable the actual salary is means nothing to Toronto. That's a selling point to a team like Arizona.

Your proposal isn't worth commenting on.

why are you doing so .

 

[ViktorBaeArvidsson]

The trade would look quite ugly.

TOR- Nathan Horton, Soshinikov, and a 2018 1st
MTL- Shea Weber

Just so the Leafs won't have that Horton's cap hit, and the Habs will have a cap hit if they plan on rebuilding. But if I'm a Leafs fan I wouldn't go for Weber. That contract will haunt them in the future.

 

[Garbageyuk]

There's no problem. Well, besides the fact you were insulted enough at my post to take a shot at the Leafs, which may be a problem for you if you get irritated at people not liking your offers.

Everyone's a critic, and not everyone will agree with you. If that's tough to grasp, stay away from the Internet.

Lol what an amazing level of hypocrisy you just displayed. Take your own damn advice

 

[TheDoldrums]

why are you doing so .

I didn't? I only commented on your salary point, not the proposal. Have a good day!