JasonRoseEh
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I wouldn't say a declining 35 year old defenceman, signed to 8+m/yr until 2026 is the least of their problems right now. I would say you would expect that player to perform better.
I actually have both teams losing this deal.It ended up being a... complex trade. As a Preds fan, I would not use my time machine to undo any of it. Weber was not playing well for us, and Subban was initially a lot better... for 2 seasons. Our best 2 seasons ever. Then Subban imploded, but luckily we still got value in dumping him. And Weber is a better player even today. It's... complex. Bizarre even. Probably nobody will really win or lose on that. Both teams got something. Maybe not as much as they wished for. But enough.
The trade itself isn't bad in a vacuum. However, the direction was. It should've been the moment to implode and rebuild. Trading Subban for future assets would ve been better, but Molson wants nothing to do with rebuildsShea just has so much mileage already.
Trading for him was a 'win now' move on the part of Bergevin. Now years later it's looking like a bad trade, even though PK has fallen off a cliff.
Fair enough. But if Weber retires before 2026 the Preds' salary cap will be absolutely screwed. Making it a really bad deal for Nashville
His save % is under 900. It's turning into a bad situation with Allen's numbersIt will be 5 years after this season and that will have to be figured out.
Hoping Seattle...
I actually have both teams losing this deal.
Hard to call either side a winner when it didn't really work out the way either had hoped.
Can't argue this.It worked out exactly how Bergevin wanted. He got rid of Subban. He has a guy people make 1000 excuses for. Shea is never good enough and always gets a free pass. Perfect for Marc.
I mean, you call Subban "soup can"... I should have expected you to be biased. My bad
Ya, Preds were so stacked in 2017 transcendental super star Viktor Arvidsson led the team in RS scoring, and when Johansen got injured in the playoffs they had to rely on Colton Sissons and Freddy Gaudreau as a 1–2 centre forward punch.
That's a whole different level of stacked.
There are known and proven mechanics in the NHL to bury such contracts without affecting the teams ability to spend if they want toA contract isn't only about price but also term.
You might want to look at when Weber's ends.
There are known and proven mechanics in the NHL to bury such contracts without affecting the teams ability to spend if they want to
Again, while it would suck getting that cap hit, the recapture penalties are far less now, not crippling in any way.
Okay bud. Please inform me of how you would have done that from your arm chair GM position in Weber's case without him saying f*** it and retiring which would come with even heavier penalties?
Where did I say, I would have anything to do with that!?!?
Okay bud. Please inform me of how you would have done that from your arm chair GM position in Weber's case without him saying f*** it and retiring which would come with even heavier penalties?
Yes, I think most Montreal fans would agree he is.Isn’t Petry the top RD in Montreal now?
Again, while it would suck getting that cap hit, the recapture penalties are far less now, not crippling in any way.
Where did I say, I would have anything to do with that!?!?
You seem very frustrated, take a walk
Do fans of other teams come to the main boards to bitch about their players too?
I don't think you can bury the contract, but the cap hit is now maxed out at 7.8M, that's not crippling, it hurts but it's not crippling.There still hasn't been an explanation how you would bury such a contract.
I'm waiting.