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Do Make Say Think said:
Weight and health are linked so while I get what you mean, one of the biggest factors of happiness is health.

If you aren't healthy, you are much more likely to have all sorts of issue that make it harder to be happy.
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sure health is important we all know that.

Being healthy is not always a choice. Your attitude in how you deal with it is.
 
Do Make Say Think said:
Weight and health are linked so while I get what you mean, one of the biggest factors of happiness is health.

If you aren't healthy, you are much more likely to have all sorts of issue that make it harder to be happy.
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There are things that happen in life that can affect your state of happiness such as divorce, loss of parents and siblings, mental illness to self and loved ones, medical illnesses, loss of job, addictions, etc. These can definitely affect your mental state. That is why one hopes for the best but must plan for "rainy days".

Having 6 months worth of savings as a fallback is important; I could not achieve that when I was young (under 50). Being older and having survived various "rainy days", I have savings now that can provide support for me, my wife and our sons when future "rainy days" occur. I have been fortunate but also thrifty and managed to survive with a generally happy demeanour so far. Hope it continues but lifetimes are limited so dark days are ahead.
 
Only a couple points I'll make:
1. Mental health issues leading to suicide, esp in middle aged men, is not some "recent" phenomenon -- when I was growing up in the 70's and early 80's I knew two kids whose fathers committed suicide. I would be interested to know what the stats say about how much more frequent it is.

2. To me, and just speculating here, I think the biggest thing that has changed is all the "stuff" that we think we have to do to live a normal life. The term "rat race" was probably coined in about 1950, but back then it just meant the daily grind that people (mostly men) had to go through from 9 to 5 as part of their job. Now we've created so many demands on our time and attention that just weren't there before and we all have this constant feeling of being overwhelmed by life. As @BoardsofCanada posted above, it'd be best to just be happy with a simple life -- but it does seem like we've completely lost the ability to do that.

Yesterday and watching the game last night was very emotional for me, mostly because I enjoyed Simpsons work so much and will really mis him, and also the symbolism of it being a Captials - Sens game was very prevalent in my mind.
 
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FunkySeeFunkyDoo said:
Only a couple points I'll make:
1. Mental health issues leading to suicide, esp in middle aged men, is not some "recent" phenomenon -- when I was growing up in the 70's and early 80's I knew two kids whose fathers committed suicide. I would be interested to know what the stats say about how much more frequent it is.

2. To me, and just speculating here, I think the biggest thing that has changed is all the "stuff" that we think we have to do to live a normal life. The term "rat race" was probably coined in about 1950, but back then it just meant the daily grind that people (mostly men) had to go through from 9 to 5 as part of their job. Now we've created so many demands on our time and attention that just weren't there before and we all have this constant feeling of being overwhelmed by life.
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While it may seem that there are more people with mental health issues these days, it is just that it talked about more and shared more that people are experiencing them. Those things used to not be talked about except amongst the closest friends and family.

The only thing that might have changed with regards to our time and attention is that back then wives didn't work. They took care of the home, the kids, the finances, etc. Now they work and those duties are added on top of full time jobs for both. However, lots of things are so much easier now due to the internet. Shopping, banking, communications, entertainment, etc is all so much easier now.
 
Karterthadon said:
Was there really less depressed people in the 20's and 30's or was it simply the fact that it was not a known issue at the time? Life was ROUGH for a lot of folks at the time but it could also be a case of tough times make "tougher" people.
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There was not a national or provincial funded health care system back then. People were struggling, dying and suffering from mental and medical illnesses as indicated by lower average life spans back then. It was known but not tracked well. Life was rough, particularly during the dirty 30s. Tough times makes more dead people.
 
workload and absolutely no protection from corporate greed is also a massive part of this. People today are working an average of 12 hours more per week then 30 years ago and that’s 2 hours a day you arent with your family and with people at work, your kids and mate have less access to you, you see your friends less, you are in a stress environment longer and very little protection for all you give from being fired for profit

Work is replacing family time and that’s a massive consequence. And everyone saying you need to work like a dog to make it - and the result is money and not happiness. Poor life equation. And it’s only going to get worse for the young kids - to be middle class in 30 years will mean having to fight everyday to make it in a good job. It’s only going to get worse not better if we continue allowing companies like Bell to f*** people over afyer they do a mental health day for the country - it’s just so wrong on every level yet here we are 1 week out from all these Bell guys promoting it as if Bell wouldn’t fire their asses in a second for more caviar on the boardroom table - but rhat choice do they have? Don’t do it, you’re fired. Play the gimmick and you might not get fired - it’s total bullshit
 
Sens of Anarchy said:
I use mine to send and receive texts and talk on . I basically never carry it around if I am out..
In the car for maps its handy.

The way people live on them is just crazy to me
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It's becoming increasingly impossible to go out without the phone though. You need it to pay for parking. You need it for 2FA for banking. You need it for the damn menu at some restaurants.
 
Tuna99 said:
workload and absolutely no protection from corporate greed is also a massive part of this. People today are working an average of 12 hours more per week then 30 years ago and that’s 2 hours a day you arent with your family and with people at work, your kids and mate have less access to you, you see your friends less, you are in a stress environment longer and very little protection for all you give from being fired for profit

Work is replacing family time and that’s a massive consequence. And everyone saying you need to work like a dog to make it - and the result is money and not happiness. Poor life equation. And it’s only going to get worse for the young kids - to be middle class in 30 years will mean having to fight everyday to make it in a good job. It’s only going to get worse not better if we continue allowing companies like Bell to f*** people over afyer they do a mental health day for the country - it’s just so wrong on every level yet here we are 1 week out from all these Bell guys promoting it as if Bell wouldn’t fire their asses in a second for more caviar on the boardroom table - but rhat choice do they have? Don’t do it, you’re fired. Play the gimmick and you might not get fired - it’s total bullshit
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Where does that 12 hours / week stat come from? Not that I don't believe it, but I have never seen any study or article stating that.
 
Masked said:
While it may seem that there are more people with mental health issues these days, it is just that it talked about more and shared more that people are experiencing them. ....
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Yeah I think any reasonable comparison of "mental health issues" between time periods will be pretty difficult as reliable data just doesn't exist.

However, I was asking about suicide rates, in particular for middle aged men, and I would have thought that data did exist for the 50's, 60's, 70's, etc..
 
FunkySeeFunkyDoo said:
Where does that 12 hours / week stat come from? Not that I don't believe it, but I have never seen any study or article stating that.
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Tried to find the article, I read it last year when I was hiring (we work long hours) and basically in conclusion they said work in a place you like more then where you’ll get paid because you’ll be spending kore time with those people then with your family.
Stats are also hard to find because so many employers hire part time now or gig to not have to pay benefits - but full time workers are working way more then the previous generations under more stress and job insecurity
 
DrEasy said:
It's becoming increasingly impossible to go out without the phone though. You need it to pay for parking. You need it for 2FA for banking. You need it for the damn menu at some restaurants.
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You basically need a second phone just for personal use if you want to do that with work correspondence limited to a different e-mail/phone number.

Even something like going to Sens games, it's all digital.
 
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