bleedblue1223
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I can't remember, but I do remember them being on a list that called about him.
Eklund Rumor: Shattenkirk to MTL
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I can't remember, but I do remember them being on a list that called about him.
LastWordArmy
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I don't see Galchenyuk being moved, but apparently (reading the comments on that Eklund blog) Pacioretty might be an acceptable piece, though I have no idea why. If Shatty is moved to MTL, I think it has to be a bigger deal. Something along the lines of:
Shattenkirk (extended @ 7x$6.5M)
Berglund
Pacioretty
Emelin or Markov ($1.75M retained if it is Markov)
Cap wise, the Blues don't really have much wiggle room (around $1M) once the Sobotka contract is added to the roster. This deal would have roughly $8.5M going to the Blues and $8.7M going to the Habs. I think the Blues probably add a 2nd/3rd or a prospect, but if all of the pieces are actually in play I think this is how it has to go down. A LD really isn't a need for the Blues, but MTL is going have to move someone if they bring Shatty in, and it would allow the Blues to improve on LD while subtracting a luxury piece at RD in the process.
Why would montreal trade a multi-time 30 goal scorer (and had as many as 39) with one of the NHL's best contracts, for a player at a position they don't really need.
This is another proposal that takes zero of the current habs needs into account.
Yes trade what they don't have enough of (top 6 forwards) for what they already are well stocked in (right handed defencemen).
Where is the logic in that?
LastWordArmy
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Heres part of the problem.
Eklund never once said the word Galchenyuk in his post, thats the OP adding that in. So this post is completely misleading.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=78514&blogger_id=1
Eklund never once said the word Galchenyuk in his post, thats the OP adding that in. So this post is completely misleading.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=78514&blogger_id=1
Number1RedWingsFan52
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So was Detroit, But as i remember Armstrong wanted an arm and a leg. Doesn't mean that Montreal was major players on him. As i remember supposedly there was a Hall for Shattenkirk deal but seeing that Shattenkirk wouldn't agree to sign long term there Chia did the Hall for Larsson deal instead. I'm pretty sure that there was ton of teams asking about Shattenkirk i would think.
Vincenzo Arelliti
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I don't think I was misleading - I clearly said that the only thing that would make sense (I didn't use quotes here because this is me talking) for STL to add to would be Galchenyuk. STL doesn't trade Shattenkirk for Desharnais. . . esepcially if the idea is to add to Shattenkirk. There are two forwards on the team that STL would add to with Shattenkirk, and that's Patches or Galchenyuk.
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The only reason why we mention these were guys is the part where it says Stl was interested in a player that wasn't available before but now could be.
Look....99.9% of Blues fans agree this trade makes little sense for Montreal and we're aware that Eklund is usually full of ****, but damn....at least it's not another Boston or NYR thread.
Majorityof1
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He quoted the relevant section and said Galchenyuk was the only piece he thought the blues may be willing to add for. Its only misleading if you don't read the whole post. Maybe it should have had a link to the article, but was accurate on its face. Edit: It did link the article. There is literally nothing to complain about.
I agree it would be horrible idea for Montreal to do this. However, let's not pretend Gallchenyuk has never been on the trade block. He is on a bridge contract because he and Montreal had a very contentious contract negotiations last time. He fired his agent, because he didn't like his advice on how to deal with Therrien. Now he has had a break-out season of sorts. It is possible that once the last year on his contract started, they approached him about an extension, found his demands unreasonable, and decided he' be available in trade for the right price. If there is any truth to the rumor, which, yes, is doubtful as its Eklund, then Galchenyuk fits as a piece that the Blues might target and that Montreal could suddenly feel they have no choice but to move. Or maybe its just wishful thinking by Blues fans, because that would be a near perfect return for Shattenkirk.
Habsfan2731
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So word on the street (Eklund) is that Montreal has been in the mix for Shattenkirk? I'm no MTL fan, but I'm not sure how RHD, or really any D (other than maybe Top LHD) is really a need for MTL, but hey - it's MTL we're talking about here and they just traded Subban for Weber, so what do I know?
The rumor goes that "There is a key piece that Armstrong has wanted out of Montreal that was a non-starter...but now is, I wouldn't say "in play" yet, but for sure being discussed...even it will take a little more from St Louis."
The only thing on MTL that STL would be willing to add for is probably Galchenyuk. What sayeth you, HFMontreal?
Galchenyuk
2nd
Shattenkirk, signed at 6.5M for NEXT season (this season is at 4.25 or something ridiculous)
Ivan Barbashev (drafted 32, and fits the MTL mold better than Galchenyuk)
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklu...ith-a-Shattenkirk-Update--Habs-and-NJ/1/78514
I don't believe Eklund rumours anyway but I'm just curious in the OP how Barbashev fits Montreal's mold better than Galchenyuk?
Galchenyuk's also proved himself at 1C last year and scored 30 goals while spending most of the season hampered with Desharnais/Plekanec/Eller/Semin/Anything but Pacioretty-Gallagher as his linemates.
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This is one of those "Never say never" situations. We all said Subban wasn't going anywhere. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Once again we're talking Eklund here, Which means a Shattenkirk to Montreal deal isn't going to happen. I still see Shatty either with the Rangers or Bruins before all is said and done.
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Habsfan2731
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it's funny, I really wanted Barbashev in his draft year, but I haven't tracked him post draft. How's he been?
Habsfan2731
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Vincenzo Arelliti
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More physical, 2-way player that has "lots" (relative) of offensive upside, and has never had speculation about being able to play center. It seems like a Therrien thing to do.
Majorityof1
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He had a good last year in the Q, improved offensively and defensively. Then he hit the AHL, and was a bit disappointing for some. He started out well early on, but offensively hit a wall and just couldn't put up numbers consistently. 28 points in 60-something games. He was solid on defense, but just never looked confident with the puck. To be fair, he is a 19 year-old who has historically been one of the strongest guys on the ice suddenly playing against men who are much stronger. I am not too worried, but it does raise questions about how well his offensive game will translate. This year will be a big test for him and go a long way to showing if he has 2nd line scoring upside or will top out as a defensive specialist.
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No one is expendable up front. Especially not Gallagher.
The Habs just have no room for another top pairing quality RD anyway.
gifted88
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Who'd step in to replace Galchenyuk? Barbashev?
Leaves a massive hole at #1 C...and for what, a 2nd pairing D? This rumour is very hard to believe has anything real behind it.
Leaves a massive hole at #1 C...and for what, a 2nd pairing D? This rumour is very hard to believe has anything real behind it.
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Has it been verified that Shattenkirk said he would never play in Canada?
As this guy says....Gary VanDecar: Hey Eklund what part of Shattenkirk saying that he would never play in Canada do you not understand Shattenkirk said that he would never play in Canada so Montreal is out of it.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=78514&blogger_id=1
I know there's a few Canadian born players have said it. Never heard an American player say it.
As this guy says....Gary VanDecar: Hey Eklund what part of Shattenkirk saying that he would never play in Canada do you not understand Shattenkirk said that he would never play in Canada so Montreal is out of it.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=78514&blogger_id=1
I know there's a few Canadian born players have said it. Never heard an American player say it.
Habsfan2731
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I think it's a common misconception on Galchenyuk. He does play a bit of a physical game at times, he's solid defensively, he's not a liability back there.
There was never any speculation about his ability to play C. Therrien could never oust Desharnais to put him at C.
He played C 3 times in his NHL career, every time he's had a look there, he's been incredible but it's Therrien & he constantly decides to **** everything up when something works.
He ran away with the 1C position in the 2nd part of the season when he was there.
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