Confirmed with Link: Sharks sign Tyler Toffoli to 4 year deal 6M AAV

[Boy Hedican]

This is obviously so we can have our version of That 70s Line

72, 71, 73

Bet.

 

[glasgow26]

Love it. Exactly what we needed in our top six and should pair nicely with Celebrini.

 

[JTB1974]

Could he be a trade piece at the deadline for more draft picks if he has a solid season but Sharks are near the bottom? Or does the 4 years make that very unlikely?

 

[Alaskanice]

Could he be a trade piece at the deadline for more draft picks if he has a solid season but Sharks are near the bottom? Or does the 4 years make that very unlikely?

Full NMC

 

[Cas]

Could he be a trade piece at the deadline for more draft picks if he has a solid season but Sharks are near the bottom? Or does the 4 years make that very unlikely?

He's not getting traded until 2027 at the earliest, more likely 2028 if he's at all in demand and the Sharks are out of the race.

 

[Crankshaft Mechanic]

I know nothing, but along with generally adding much needed talent, signing Toffoli also feels like a move to specifically give Macklin a dependable finisher on his line. I imagine they saw what Bedard worked with last season in Chicago and didn't want Celebrini to have to draw blood from a stone.

If he is still deciding on whether to sign join the team this year, this would really help.

 

[The Nemesis]

Full NMC

Oh no, Doug Wilson is back!

Toffoli will probably not be worth $6M in that last year, but we’ll have guys like Musty, Halttunen, Chernyshov, etc. pushing for top-6 spots by that point on ELCs so Toffoli at $6M in a third line role won’t be a problem.

Now we see why Grier claimed Goodrow. It plants the seeds for him to do the same thing to Toffoli in 3 years.

 

[TheBigDrunkPanda]

Great pickup, he will probably suck bad in year 4 but thats free agency for you.

Honestly it looks like he took a discount too

 

[OffSydes]

The Shorks did not overpay in AAV and term for a bottom six player with a cup ring. This has to be fake news

 

[gaucholoco3]

With how much he has bounced around I think he was willing to sacrifice some dollars for 4 years with a NMC.

 

[dmcccdmn]

Okay, I'm not a big fan of this signing. It doesn't make sense. At 32 years old, he doesn't serve our long term goal. The full NMC prevents you from trading him for younger assets. He's very productive, perhaps too productive, so that will hurt our drafting position when we're rebuilding by adding high draft picks. He would make sense on a playoff-bound team, not a last place team.

He might help the growth of a young center like Smith and/or Celebrini. This shows that Grier wants to put an emphasis on developing Smith and Celebrini even if it lowers our draft picks talent-wise the next 3-4 years.

Personally, I think a signing like this makes sense a couple of years from now. But signing Tyler Toffoli this year might hurt our chances at getting Hagens and the elite McKenna or other top talents.

 

[hohosaregood]

I like this move, especially after seeing some of the contracts getting thrown out there. Reasonable price and not committed to him for too long if he ages out faster than expected.

 

[gaucholoco3]

Okay, I'm not a big fan of this signing. It doesn't make sense. At 32 years old, he doesn't serve our long term goal. The full NMC prevents you from trading him for younger assets. He's very productive, perhaps too productive, so that will hurt our drafting position when we're rebuilding by adding high draft picks. He would make sense on a playoff-bound team, not a last place team.

He might help the growth of a young center like Smith and/or Celebrini. This shows that Grier wants to put an emphasis on developing Smith and Celebrini even if it lowers our draft picks talent-wise the next 3-4 years.

Personally, I think a signing like this makes sense a couple of years from now. But signing Tyler Toffoli this year might hurt our chances at getting Hagens and the elite McKenna or other top talents.

The Sharks have a franchise C so the need to completely bottom out and win the lottery is not needed especially at the expense of developing Celebrini and Smith.

The Sharks also got a borderline 1D this season. They could grab one in the draft but you don’t have to pick top 5 to grab that franchise 1D.

Developing Celebrini and Smith should be the number 1 priority at this point because if those players bust it doesn’t matter. If Toffoli helps the push the Sharks down to the 10th overall pick but helps Celebrini and/or Smith develop and push for 60/70 points then that is absolutely worth more than them tanking again for a lottery pick and those two waste a year of development with Kunin and Goodrow as linemates.

 

[timorous me]

Okay, I'm not a big fan of this signing. It doesn't make sense. At 32 years old, he doesn't serve our long term goal. The full NMC prevents you from trading him for younger assets. He's very productive, perhaps too productive, so that will hurt our drafting position when we're rebuilding by adding high draft picks. He would make sense on a playoff-bound team, not a last place team.

He might help the growth of a young center like Smith and/or Celebrini. This shows that Grier wants to put an emphasis on developing Smith and Celebrini even if it lowers our draft picks talent-wise the next 3-4 years.

Personally, I think a signing like this makes sense a couple of years from now. But signing Tyler Toffoli this year might hurt our chances at getting Hagens and the elite McKenna or other top talents.

Just remember how far we were behind other teams in the standings this year. This Sharks team could win a dozen more games the coming season--which would be quite the improvement!--and still be in the race for the #1 pick, or at least a top 3/5 pick.

I just don't see the concern here based on only adding Toffoli and not spending recklessly. Do you really want Celebrini and Smith to basically be 18/19 year-olds who have the weight of the franchise on their shoulders with barely any help? It feels like a recipe for disaster, like a team that will end up just spinning their wheels and never properly building anything.

 

[karltonian]

Okay, I'm not a big fan of this signing. It doesn't make sense. At 32 years old, he doesn't serve our long term goal. The full NMC prevents you from trading him for younger assets. He's very productive, perhaps too productive, so that will hurt our drafting position when we're rebuilding by adding high draft picks. He would make sense on a playoff-bound team, not a last place team.

He might help the growth of a young center like Smith and/or Celebrini. This shows that Grier wants to put an emphasis on developing Smith and Celebrini even if it lowers our draft picks talent-wise the next 3-4 years.

Personally, I think a signing like this makes sense a couple of years from now. But signing Tyler Toffoli this year might hurt our chances at getting Hagens and the elite McKenna or other top talents.

I wonder if Toffoli is the difference between a meaningfully more successful season. I don't think we were looking at scraping the absolute bottom unless we run into injury troubles which will happen regardless. But it does help the young playmakers a lot.

 

[DoubleOT]

I love this signing, great add to the forward group! Good money, term is ok, seems like a good fit. Veteran presence who can score, still has productive years in him.

If they can improve on D they may be perilously close to icing an NHL team come October.

 

[RussianShark]

Toffoli always seemed to score against the Sharks, that alone makes me happy he's on our side now. 13 career goals in 38 games against us.

 

[mogambomoroo]

Okay, I'm not a big fan of this signing. It doesn't make sense. At 32 years old, he doesn't serve our long term goal. The full NMC prevents you from trading him for younger assets. He's very productive, perhaps too productive, so that will hurt our drafting position when we're rebuilding by adding high draft picks. He would make sense on a playoff-bound team, not a last place team.

He might help the growth of a young center like Smith and/or Celebrini. This shows that Grier wants to put an emphasis on developing Smith and Celebrini even if it lowers our draft picks talent-wise the next 3-4 years.

Personally, I think a signing like this makes sense a couple of years from now. But signing Tyler Toffoli this year might hurt our chances at getting Hagens and the elite McKenna or other top talents.

I understand we need more talent, but that needs to happen naturally with how the team is going from this point on. When we drafted Celebrini, I think that's where the intensional tanking ends.
By signing Toffoli we aren't getting that much better, so now it's just babysteps forward to get better for Celebrini and Smith.

 

[aircobra]

At 32 years old, he doesn't serve our long term goal.

He does when it comes to not screwing up Mack's development. That's the only goal that should be worried about this off-season. They're not worried about signing guys that will be part of what they hope is a return to winning. That will happen in future off-seasons. The point is to not hand out 6-7 year contracts like Wilson would do.

 

[sharski]

I'm very confused

I thought it was annual "Overpay and Overhype a fourth line player who we hope and pray plays above and beyond anything they've done in their career so far" Day

 

[STL Shark]

Toffoli will probably not be worth $6M in that last year, but we’ll have guys like Musty, Halttunen, Chernyshov, etc. pushing for top-6 spots by that point on ELCs so Toffoli at $6M in a third line role won’t be a problem.

Biggest part of this signing is to see the structure of the pay. I would assume Toffoli would push for a heavy signing bonus laden deal (particularly at the end), but would be nice if it was just a straight $6M a year in salary for 4 years that can be bought out in Year 4 when it starts to likely look bad.

 

[Munnyro]

I read somewhere his wife has ties to Cali. Work, family, etc and wanted to be back in CA.

 

[TealManV]

Solid signing. It’s a good start. Still lots of work to be done imo.

 

[Barrie22]

If nobody has record worst win totals next season (sharks and hawks both had them), the sharks could still win another 13 or so games next season and still be comfortably in last place.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Biggest part of this signing is to see the structure of the pay. I would assume Toffoli would push for a heavy signing bonus laden deal (particularly at the end), but would be nice if it was just a straight $6M a year in salary for 4 years that can be bought out in Year 4 when it starts to likely look bad.

I actually think Toffoli will end up playing out his full contract here.