Prospect Info: Sharks Prospect Info & Discussion Megathread XXI: "New, improved, and wayyyy too much info" Edition

[Juxtaposer]

That’s a fun comp. Nice to have the real Ryane Clowe here to give tips too.

I hesitated to make it because I really don't want to get people's hopes up to much. But I think if Chernyshov hits that's the kind of player he can be.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Timo was faster, smaller, and had a better shot. I also doubt Chernyshov achieves the play-driving and defensive impact Meier did in his prime.

Not to get everyone overhyped and drooling from the mouth, but I almost want to say semi-prime Ryane Clowe without the mean streak is a better comp. Physical playmaking power winger with slightly heavy feet. What I'm most interesting in seeing in Chernyshov's development this year is for him to really impose his will physically on OHLers. He's got the body for it, he just needs the confidence, which I suspect he'll gain with more experience.

Supposedly at some point Grier mentioned that Chernyshov can skate like the wind? Maybe it is a misattribution to a different prospect. Anyways, I don't think I've seen that from him so far. Like you said the feet feel a little heavy. Maybe it's just a conditioning thing though.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Supposedly at some point Grier mentioned that Chernyshov can skate like the wind? Maybe it is a misattribution to a different prospect. Anyways, I don't think I've seen that from him so far. Like you said the feet feel a little heavy. Maybe it's just a conditioning thing though.

It could be conditioning, but I also think that NHL people describe skating in a very funky and inconsistent way.

Ottawa's GM said that Yakemchuk was an elite skater, when he objectively is a bad skater with terrible agility and pivots who happens to have good top speed when he gets going. Chernyshov does have good speed once he gets going, but the acceleration isn't great. So perhaps Grier is describing his top speed.

Mechanically, Chernyshov's skating looks fine to me, so he could probably add some explosiveness with proper gym time and adult strength.

 

[Jargon]

One reason why Misa interests me is that we don’t really have any burners. Mack is fast and so relentless, he achieves the same results. Eklund is more quick than fast, I’d say. Smith is slow as molasses. I’d love a really fast top 6 guy.

 

[Juxtaposer]

One reason why Misa interests me is that we don’t really have any burners. Mack is fast and so relentless, he achieves the same results. Eklund is more quick than fast, I’d say. Smith is slow as molasses. I’d love a really fast top 6 guy.

Same here. Skating hasn't been a priority for Grier-drafted forwards. Celebrini was a given, but Smith, Musty, Halttunen, Lund, Bystedt, and Chernyshov are all average (Bystedt and Lund) or below average (the rest).

 

[Lebanezer]

@Juxtaposer, what are the realistic timelines for the top of this draft becoming impact players in the NHL?

 

[Juxtaposer]

@Juxtaposer, what are the realistic timelines for the top of this draft becoming impact players in the NHL?

Is it lazy to say "they all could play depth roles in the NHL next year but it wouldn't be a good idea and D+2 is probably the right call"?

Schaefer: Could force himself onto a bad roster (like the Sharks) on merit of being one of the six best defensemen we have, but would probably be better suited to play a full season in the OHL as an 18 year old.

Hagens: Should do another season in the NCAA and dominate before he signs an NHL contract.

Misa and Martone are trickier because they don't have anything to learn from the OHL and need a new challenge. One year in the NCAA makes sense for Misa. Not sure about Martone except that I don't think another year in the OHL would benefit him (like Musty).

 

[OrrNumber4]

Defensemen take time to develop...that'd be my issue with taking Schaefer since it's possible that he hits his stride at the wrong time.

 

[wishman]

Looks like Igor missed today’s game. Hopefully just precautionary since they were playing in back to back games.

 

[Star Platinum]

 

[jMoneyBrah]

Defensemen take time to develop...that'd be my issue with taking Schaefer since it's possible that he hits his stride at the wrong time.

I’m sorry, but in what world does Schaefer hit his stride at the wrong time? If Grier sees Schaefer as a future #1D, I suspect he’ll take him regardless of whatever timeline it takes for him to hit stride. Even if it takes him ‘til his D+5 year that still puts him in the NHL when Celebrini is 23/24. Oh no, can’t contend with that aging core…

Out of curiosity, what kind of minuscule window are you suggesting is the right time for our prospects to hit their stride before it becomes “the wrong time”?