Confirmed with Link: Sharks claim Goodrow from NYR

[STL Shark]

The reason it's not a great move is that we'll never be able to trade the contract ourselves. If he was moveable, even with a larger cap figure, the Rangers would have made that deal themselves. His value around the league is obviously super low. So we'll be eating the rest of that deal for a guy that most teams wouldn't even roster because they have better guys to play that role. And even when there are less years left on the deal, it's not like he's going to get any better than he is now.

What I question is what the Rangers could possibly offer us to make this deal more of a win. I think what the team would need is a move for an actual player that could fill a role on the big squad, but Grier is able to send out less in return for that player than he otherwise would have because he did Drury this favor.

3rd round or worse pick from a team that's going to have winning records for some time doesn't move the needle for me.

That simply isn't true re: trading him. We will be able to trade him very easily once we have a retention slot in 2025-26 or 2026-27. For NYR, there was no point in retaining to trade him because the retention ($1.8M) still on the books would have negated any cap space gain simply by signing another player to his spot on the roster. It was either move his full contract via trade or buy him out.

 

[Jargon]

This all seems a little overblown. If Goodrow is angry, it’s at the Rangers for waiving him without discussing a trade or even telling them he was going to be waived until just before doing it. I’m sure he’s far less angry at the Sharks for wanting him.

His contract is like, fine. We have a ton of space and worst comes to worst, we can retain on him and trade him the deadline after this one.

He is absolutely going to be better than Hoffman, Labanc, etc., and will bring the intangible locker room presence that he’s always had (and now it comes with Cup rings). I’m sure it doesn’t hurt to bring poor Logan’s good friend back for him too.

As someone else said, it’s very likely that Grier has talked to multiple free agents who have a similar profile to Goodrow and all of them politely declined to come here. So, why not pick him up for free?

I’m not particularly fond of the move but I think the reaction here is a little overly intense.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

This all seems a little overblown. If Goodrow is angry, it’s at the Rangers for waiving him without discussing a trade or even telling them he was going to be waived until just before doing it. I’m sure he’s far less angry at the Sharks for wanting him.

His contract is like, fine. We have a ton of space and worst comes to worst, we can retain on him and trade him the deadline after this one.

He is absolutely going to be better than Hoffman, Labanc, etc., and will bring the intangible locker room presence that he’s always had (and now it comes with Cup rings). I’m sure it doesn’t hurt to bring poor Logan’s good friend back for him too.

As someone else said, it’s very likely that Grier has talked to multiple free agents who have a similar profile to Goodrow and all of them politely declined to come here. So, why not pick him up for free?

I’m not particularly fond of the move but I think the reaction here is a little overly intense.

Goodrow has a right to be mad at the Sharks too. They're not entirely innocent in all this. Being better than Hoffman and Labanc is not exactly the bar I wanted to be cleared when bringing someone in to help make Celebrini and Smith better players on a competitive team. I sincerely doubt all similar profiled players from Goodrow declined us and even if they did, so what? Let them pass and players at that range tend to get squeezed out in free agency and for a much better cost per whatever metric than what Goodrow was to provide. They can be waited out. The amount of money we had to spend for the floor is roughly the amount we had been spending in free agency the past couple seasons. This wasn't needed and it's a bad look at this stage and it warrants such a response.

 

[Hodge]

Goodrow has a right to be mad at the Sharks too. They're not entirely innocent in all this.

Yes, they are entirely innocent in this. Because they did nothing wrong. Neither did the Rangers for that matter.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yes, they are entirely innocent in this. Because they did nothing wrong. Neither did the Rangers for that matter.

If they legitimately had a handshake agreement as it has been reported and a trade between the two at a later time reflects significant favor to San Jose, then yes they did. Both teams.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Yes, they are entirely innocent in this. Because they did nothing wrong. Neither did the Rangers for that matter.

And I’m sure if you explain it rationally to him, he’ll stop being angry.

Y’all keep going on about how Goodrow is a “culture guy” when we actually have no hard evidence of this. Again, a culture guy who is angry and doesn’t want to be here is not a good “culture guy”.

 

[Hodge]

If they legitimately had a handshake agreement as it has been reported and a trade between the two at a later time reflects significant favor to San Jose, then yes they did. Both teams.

Have fun proving it.

And I’m sure if you explain it rationally to him, he’ll stop being angry.

Y’all keep going on about how Goodrow is a “culture guy” when we actually have no hard evidence of this. Again, a culture guy who is angry and doesn’t want to be here is not a good “culture guy”.

He probably will be? Goodrow having an understandably emotional response to being unceremoniously dumped by the President's Trophy winners onto the literal worst team in the league doesn't mean he'll still be pouting in September.

 

[Cas]

And I’m sure if you explain it rationally to him, he’ll stop being angry.

Y’all keep going on about how Goodrow is a “culture guy” when we actually have no hard evidence of this. Again, a culture guy who is angry and doesn’t want to be here is not a good “culture guy”.

Goodrow is a "culture guy" in exactly the same way Ryan Reaves is - he's obviously not good enough to contribute anything positive on the ice (anymore), so he must be good in the locker room or as a deterrent on the ice because otherwise there is no way to justify his presence.

Goodrow might rebound next year, but right now he's a replacement-level forward who is significantly overpaid for what he actually contributes. His contract won't actually hurt us, but it's largely pointless to pick him up because the odds are his most important contribution will be related to the cap floor and not anything done in or between actual games.

 

[SjMilhouse]

He probably will be? Goodrow having an understandably emotional response to being unceremoniously dumped by the President's Trophy winners onto the literal worst team in the league doesn't mean he'll still be pouting in September.

Only real reporting on this has been he's pissed he wasn't notified at all and just got thrown on waivers.

Fun to speculate but who knows what actually happened.

 

[weastern bias]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/san-jose-sharks/latest-news/report-barclay-goodrow-was-unaware-of-waive-until-last-moment-friedman-confirms-sharks-were-on-no-trade-list

So the more that comes out Goodrow is just butt hurt and delusional

He wasn't good enough to justify his cap hit and he's mad at the Rangers for exercising their right to waive him

It's nothing

 

[STL Shark]

Goodrow has a right to be mad at the Sharks too. They're not entirely innocent in all this. Being better than Hoffman and Labanc is not exactly the bar I wanted to be cleared when bringing someone in to help make Celebrini and Smith better players on a competitive team. I sincerely doubt all similar profiled players from Goodrow declined us and even if they did, so what? Let them pass and players at that range tend to get squeezed out in free agency and for a much better cost per whatever metric than what Goodrow was to provide. They can be waited out. The amount of money we had to spend for the floor is roughly the amount we had been spending in free agency the past couple seasons. This wasn't needed and it's a bad look at this stage and it warrants such a response.

Yeah, this is just dumb. Sharks have no culpability in the Rangers poor communication on the front end with Goodrow. Any insinuation to the contrary is just pure and utter fiction.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/san-jose-sharks/latest-news/report-barclay-goodrow-was-unaware-of-waive-until-last-moment-friedman-confirms-sharks-were-on-no-trade-list

So the more that comes out Goodrow is just butt hurt and delusional

He wasn't good enough to justify his cap hit and he's mad at the Rangers for exercising their right to waive him

It's nothing

He's mad at the Rangers for not communicating with him and giving him any ability to control his destination like other orgs have done (namely the McDonagh example discussed in the article). For that, he is 100% right to be annoyed because I am sure that 15 team list probably had some flexibility and level of preference to it in Goodrow's mind if the alternative was waivers.

 

[STL Shark]

And I’m sure if you explain it rationally to him, he’ll stop being angry.

Y’all keep going on about how Goodrow is a “culture guy” when we actually have no hard evidence of this. Again, a culture guy who is angry and doesn’t want to be here is not a good “culture guy”.

Conflating "doesn't want to be here" with didn't like how the situation was handled is certainly a stance. I am sure he doesn't love going from the best team in the league to the worst. Not sure that literally anyone in the league would love that. I also am sure that he's not going to just not report to SJ or do something to sour the taste of him around the league for when it's time to be dealt in the next 1.5-2.5 years (nor is he just going to pout and be a scumbag out of spite).

Is it going to be a different role for him to play as mentor on a bad team as opposed to energy/glue guy on a good team? 100%. Do we all have our roles in our occupations and life change from time to time and have to adapt? 100%.

 

[weastern bias]

He's mad at the Rangers for not communicating with him and giving him any ability to control his destination like other orgs have done (namely the McDonagh example discussed in the article). For that, he is 100% right to be annoyed because I am sure that 15 team list probably had some flexibility and level of preference to it in Goodrow's mind if the alternative was waivers.

I understand Tampa doing that for McDonough, he was an integral part of back to back championship teams who the team would have preferred to keep but had to move for purely salary reasons

Barclay Goodrow was an energy 4th liner and a PKer (albeit, a clutch playoff guy) who had already been overcompensated both in salary and in prominence (he wore an 'A') for a team that has repeatedly underperformed in the playoffs

He's not going to get the same kind of care, he'd be an afterthought on the team if it weren't for his arduous salary, the most memorable thing about him as far as the GM was concerned was what an anchor his contract was, Drury isn't losing any sleep over souring this relationship

 

[matt trick]

Hopefully Granlund mysteriously gets the Rangers 1st at the deadline.

That said, I don't mind picking up Goody. I agree we should be compensated (or should have opted not to take him). I'm not overly optimistic that we won't win a trade with NYR later, but don't think it's impossible. However, as long as he's not pissed to be in SJ (which he may be), I'm happy to have him as a 4th liner. Love the guys story. Unfortunately, he's not the player we traded to Tampa, and three years is long. I think I'd rather have paid $1.5M more for a Duclair type in free agency.

 

[STL Shark]

I understand Tampa doing that for McDonough, he was an integral part of back to back championship teams who the team would have preferred to keep but had to move for purely salary reasons

Barclay Goodrow was an energy 4th liner and a PKer (albeit, a clutch playoff guy) who had already been overcompensated both in salary and in prominence (he wore an 'A') for a team that has repeatedly underperformed in the playoffs

He's not going to get the same kind of care, he'd be an afterthought on the team if it weren't for his arduous salary, the most memorable thing about him as far as the GM was concerned was what an anchor his contract was, Drury isn't losing any sleep over souring this relationship

The fact that he was a leader on that team to the point of wearing an "A" and respected around the league means that a good GM would have at least clued him into things. If a deal wasn't there to be made without giving up assets that Drury wasn't willing to give up, at least you let him figure that out prior to making the move.

If anything, it would not have hurt the situation had Drury been upfront and communicated his plans earlier. As with most things in life, things tend to go a lot better if you simply communicate what's going on (even if that communication isn't always what the other party wants to hear).

 

[NiWa]

Did we discuss the probability of a rebound?
From what I read on the Rangers board, he was seriously injured (jaw?) and played through it for the team.

It doesn't seem like advanced stats capture that kind of thing well.

 

[weastern bias]

The fact that he was a leader on that team to the point of wearing an "A" and respected around the league means that a good GM would have at least clued him into things. If a deal wasn't there to be made without giving up assets that Drury wasn't willing to give up, at least you let him figure that out prior to making the move.

If anything, it would not have hurt the situation had Drury been upfront and communicated his plans earlier. As with most things in life, things tend to go a lot better if you simply communicate what's going on (even if that communication isn't always what the other party wants to hear).

It certainly wouldn't have hurt, but we all know that not all players get the same treatment in pro sports, and Barclay Goodrow is pretty low on the priority list when it comes to tender care in these situations

They're the Rangers, this won't hurt their ability to attract free agents, Goodrow can be upset all he wants but it's not going to effect anything for any of the parties involved

 

[fasterthanlight]

The more I think about this, the weirder it is. I don't feel that bad for goodrow, dude has multiple cups and also signed a contract way above his value knowing he could someday be waived. I would think that playing in SJ would be better than playing anywhere in the AHL.

I think the main question is just what do the sharks get out of doing this massive favor to the rangers

 

[Gecklund]

Again, I’m not saying Grier or the Rangers did anything technically wrong, but why on earth would you want a guy who does not want to be here on the team? The fact that this is even a story shows that it’s a problem.

Yes yes yes this. This is 100% my opinion too.

Grier: “hey let’s make the locker room better!”
Also Grier: *acquires a guy that will be pissed to be here*

Great way to fix the locker room.

 

[Jargon]

The more I think about this, the weirder it is. I don't feel that bad for goodrow, dude has multiple cups and also signed a contract way above his value knowing he could someday be waived. I would think that playing in SJ would be better than playing anywhere in the AHL.

I think the main question is just what do the sharks get out of doing this massive favor to the rangers

That’s sort of my main question too. I think the rest is kinda just noise but I don’t really see the why of it unless yeah, there’s more coming in the next few weeks.

 

[TheBigDrunkPanda]

Yes yes yes this. This is 100% my opinion too.

Grier: “hey let’s make the locker room better!”
Also Grier: *acquires a guy that will be pissed to be here*

Great way to fix the locker room.

And it’s just made worse that he did the rangers a favor for free for absolutely no reason

 

[TheBigDrunkPanda]

That’s sort of my main question too. I think the rest is kinda just noise but I don’t really see the why of it unless yeah, there’s more coming in the next few weeks.

Unless there’s a draft day move with the Rags this will probably my be considered Griers worst move to date and there are plenty to choose from

 

[SJsharks]

Two things can be true at the same time, Goodrow can be not thrilled to be on a rebuilding team and still be professional/good in the room.

 

[Gecklund]

And it’s just made worse that he did the rangers a favor for free for absolutely no reason

I don’t really care about that. If Grier thinks Goodrow would help the team then fine. Issue is Goodrow will not help the team if he doesn’t want to be there.

 

[mogambomoroo]

Probably impossible, but would love to have Jacob Trouba as a compensation. Purely a cap dump, but would mean a ton for San Jose to have RD that is physical and can put some points up. He is not the same player as he used to, but would make sense for Rangers to give up for cap space.