Speculation: Seth Jones says he's talking with the Blackhawks about the possibility of a trade

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Chicago is going to have to retain 2m per year to move this contract. There's a limited number of clubs that could even afford him at 7.5m. Now that list needs to be teams Jones would be willing to waive for.

These proposals with no retention, including expiring cap dumps are laughable. Teams aren't going to commit 9.5m to Jones.

I could see Dallas and Colorado being interested as others mentioned. Maybe the Manson/Wood proposal is workable as Manson has another year and Wood's runs the full length of the Jones deal ( I could be wrong as I haven't checked to confirm - but I know Wood is signed 2.5m for long term).

That said I'm not convinced Colorado would want that contract without retention. Moving Wood doesn't open up much cap and you still have to ice his replacement. This is a club that will be looking to extend Necas. Beyond that being obvious, judging by Rantanen's comments made about be willing to sign for less and his experience to date post trade, I wouldn't be the least bit shock if Rantanen's camp circles back to Colorado on July 1st at a number both the team and player are happy with. They also have to extend Drouin. I think a trade to Colorado could make sense it's probably an off season move when the cap picture is clearer.

For Dallas I thought they were shopping with Seguin's LTIR money? That's not typical to see a team go spend it on a long term contract. Possible I suppose with the cap rising. Even still with Dumba mentioned and being on a expiring deal I'd be hesitant to think Dallas would want the full 9.5m next year on the books. Less likely they pay good assets to be the club doing it.

Being one of the few teams Jones will waive for is going to give those short listed clubs some leverage.
 
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Chicago is going to have to retain 2m per year to move this contract. There's a limited number of clubs that could even afford him at 7.5m. Now that list needs to be teams Jones would be willing to waive for.

These proposals with no retention, including expiring cap dumps are laughable. Teams aren't going to commit 9.5m to Jones.

I could see Dallas and Colorado being interested as others mentioned. Maybe the Manson/Wood proposal is workable as Manson has another year and Wood's runs the full length of the Jones deal ( I could be wrong as I haven't checked to confirm - but I know Wood is signed 2.5m for long term)
Teams can overpay or Chicago can just hang onto him. The risk is he becomes worse and untradeable, which so be it. But dumping a top pair RHD with retention during a rapidly rising cap for no assets at a time you're not even tight on cap is a joke.
 
I thought it was 8 something mil not 9.5m.

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Teams can overpay or Chicago can just hang onto him. The risk is he becomes worse and untradeable, which so be it. But dumping a top pair RHD with retention during a rapidly rising cap for no assets at a time you're not even tight on cap is a joke.
Might wanna hang onto him then until his value increases.
 
Teams can overpay or Chicago can just hang onto him. The risk is he becomes worse and untradeable, which so be it. But dumping a top pair RHD with retention during a rapidly rising cap for no assets at a time you're not even tight on cap is a joke.

I wasn't clear. Teams would have to pay for the retention. My point being the retention probably needs to be in the conversation for a deal to get done. Simply, there will be limited teams Jones would accept with mutual interest, and what are those clubs cap situations?

I don't think a contender would care about moving a 1st + prospect or even 2 1st provided the money works in their favor. Teams dumping contracts like Dumba, expiring isn't the money working in their favor. That's all I'm saying. You want a good return, make the contract a good value. That's not unreasonable.
 
OPTION 1

To Chicago:
:hawks
-Matt Dumba
-Mavrik Bourque
-the rights to Angus MacDonell

To Dallas:
:stars
-Seth Jones
-2025 Dallas 2nd round pick


OPTION 2

To Chicago:
:hawks
-Josh Manson
-Miles Wood
-2026 1st round pick
-2027 2nd round pick

To Colorado:
:avs
-Seth Jones
-Ryan Donato
OPTION 3

To Chicago:
:hawks
-Spencer Knight
-Eetu Luostarinen
-Mackie Samoskevich
-the rights to Matvei Shuravin

To Florida:
:panthers
-Seth Jones
-Ryan Donato (@50% retention)
-Arvid Soderblom
-2025 Toronto 1st round pick
-2025 Dallas 2nd round pick
 
Good luck with that. Chicago's gonna have to pull a "2022-2023 Erik Karlsson" to buff up Jones' numbers to have any hope of moving him, unless they're interested in retaining 50% and sending him to Florida for nothing.
 
I think there's a Blackhawks fan or two or three here that need reminding that while Stan Bowman did find himself another GM job, it was in Edmonton, not Dallas or Colorado or Florida or et cetera.
 
Teams can overpay or Chicago can just hang onto him. The risk is he becomes worse and untradeable, which so be it. But dumping a top pair RHD with retention during a rapidly rising cap for no assets at a time you're not even tight on cap is a joke.
Pump the brakes chief.
Seth Jones is not a top pairing dman on a contending team and no middle pairing, fading to bottom pairing during that contract duration is worth that sort of money.
 
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I don’t think we see Seth get moved for retention or much of a return. Probably a cap dump and a pick.
 
I think there's a Blackhawks fan or two or three here that need reminding that while Stan Bowman did find himself another GM job, it was in Edmonton, not Dallas or Colorado or Florida or et cetera.
Blackhawks fans are extremely aware of where Bowman went and don’t think he’ll waive for Canada even if it costs him a chance to win. Could be wrong though.

Pump the brakes chief.
Seth Jones is not a top pairing dman on a contending team and no middle pairing, fading to bottom pairing during that contract duration is worth that sort of money.
He is a top pairing d.

Name 32 better RHD than jones. I can come up with about 15 before it gets very questionable.
 

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