Seth Jones: Reality Check

[CallMeShaft]

He’s the Hawks best player.

 

[Kevin Musto]

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Literally no one wants to make that trade

 

[ColbyChaos]

without Seth jones and Murphy, walk me through what happens in your mind over the next few years that gets the Hawks D to a competitive level. Are Lev Rinzel and Korch all going to be top 4 2025? 2026? 2027? What happens if they aren’t, give me a list of defensemen you’d sign. Or which of our forward prospects you’d trade for what defensemen.

I am not anti trade Jones. But he does not require retention and he does require good assets back. Because in the real world the Hawks are bargaining from a position of strength. They don’t need to trade him. They have 37 million in cap space.

Cherry picking stats? Easily skewable? They are like the two most basic stats and jones has a plenty big sample size that even includes an injury that he sucked coming off of.

Nice try tho.

We have Vlasic, Lev, Allan, EDM, Rinzell, Kaiser, and potentially Schaefer depending how the lottery balls shake out (I am still team Misa though) our D core of the future doesnt turn into a diaster without Jones and Murphy lmfao.

Murphy already barely plays losing him wont matter as much as you think it will he isnt even a competetive player for the 30 games a year he actually is in the lineup.

Jones off the team is better long term we dont need him on the team until he is 38. In terms of upcoming UFAs there is Ekblad, Dumolin, Fabbro, Matta, Jokiharju, Pionk, Schmidt, Lindgren among many others that can act as a stop gap for a season or two if Lev and Rinzell arent ready, all those players besides Ekblad would not even need to be massively overpaid as Jones is either.

SJs value isnt going to magically go up as he gets older, slower, and even worse defensively. Better to get positive assets now if the option is there.

 

[Hull2Roenick2Kane]

I was going to reply to this thread but it has to be troll. No games for weeks and everyone needs a little entertainment.

 

[Pez68]

Jones trade isn’t “striking while the iron is hot” his value is low as hell right now. Evidence: not even a sniff at making team USA for this tournament. Not even in discussions.

Perhaps his value is low and he didn't get a sniff for making team USA because most of the hockey world sees what we see. He's a great player who pretty much never lives up to his potential, and always leaves you disappointed. He's lazy and disinterested way too often to be depended upon.

 

[Space umpire]

He started the season ok and then tapered off. He got hurt and when he came back he was coasting and putting forth minimal effort. You could see it even in his stat lines with no or minimal shots, blacoked shots, hits...

Finally in one of if not his worst games as a Hawk the crowd boo'd him. That seemed to wake him up and he has played great ever since. Which shows it is a mental and effort thing with him. If he can play like this all the time he is a definite keeper. But I think sooner or later he will likely revert to his lazy tendencies. I am scared his short term hot streak is an abnormality.

Time will tell. Who knows, maye the crowd booing him might have changed him as a player for the better

Or maybe he came back before he was healthy. A foot injury. … slower turning, no ability for quick bursts.

Or your take. Based on…

 

[MarotteMarauder]

Jones trade isn’t “striking while the iron is hot” his value is low as hell right now. Evidence: not even a sniff at making team USA for this tournament. Not even in discussions.

But he's playing fantastic hockey right now, according to you. I'll agree he's playing his best in recent memory but shouldn't the lack of interest in him tell you something? More people have my view of him than yours.

 

[HawksDub89]

Perhaps his value is low and he didn't get a sniff for making team USA because most of the hockey world sees what we see. He's a great player who pretty much never lives up to his potential, and always leaves you disappointed. He's lazy and disinterested way too often to be depended upon.

He’s a great player, but really he sucks and is lazy.

Makes sense lol.