Seravalli bodies Kyle Dubas

[stats1]

He’s not wrong.

 

[StlBigFly]

I read the article and don’t exactly get what the direct criticisms are…some of the contracts and trades worked out well and others did not. It’s quite similar to every gm. The only ones who typically look better work in tax free states. I don’t know that I saw outrage when Jarry got extended, although I do recall some skepticism. Still - it was not an unreasonable deal. Karlsson makes sense from the perspective of the old core.

Like, maybe I missed it, but I think it’s an important thing to note that the day Dubas became the guy the Penguins were the oldest team in the league and simultaneously at the full mercy of what Crosby, Malkin, and Letang desired for the future because clauses. If your expectations were sky high then your expectations are the problem.

I’m not sure what folks expected out of the Penguins, the race is tight enough that they could still sneak in, and it looks like it’s awfully hard for them to change their team due to guys like Crosby, Malkin, Letang. Spending the weekend writing a “failure article” on the topic seems….lazy af

 

[ToDavid]

False

He got bent over by RFA's who have literally 0 leverage in a negotiation and handed out atrocious contracts, NMC, bad term and bad AAC

Made arguably the worst trade of all time, Kadri for Kerfoot + Barrie

Traded away the pick that was used to select Konecny so he could trade draft Dermott instead

Repeatedly lost in the 1st round and didn't address the biggest needs

He went to the media and said it's Toronto or nowhere and he wouldn't "pop up somewhere else next week" he tried to use his family as leverage and literally demanded Brendan Shanahans job with his proposed offer

He was already speaking to Pittsburgh and it was leaked that they had an offer ready for him, he was trying to use that as leverage to squeeze money out of Toronto, once again after repeatedly failing in the playoffs

He traded away our 1st to dump Marleau (Seth Jarvis)

Traded a 1st for an injured Nik Foligno, when Taylor Hall was available. Then said that he had no interest in Hall, who was proven to be a significantly better player

There was lots of other issues but those were the biggest reasons he got the boot. He was completely clueless as GM here, apart from the Dubasites nobody wanted him here.

Is this Seravalli's account?

 

[Opus]

Heh. Dubas inherited most of the mess. He just added some accelerant to the dumpster fire with the Karlsson trade... and some other odd contracts

 

[PaulD]

I'm not saying dubas is good lol, I'm saying it's not his fault the pens are awful. Once there is a mandate set by anyone other than the GM the GM will fail. He came to Pitt and accepted the mandate that you can't fire the coach or trade the legacy guys. They added the Norris winner and it had no impact, that tells you about the team he took over. Crosby and co thought they could compete so he tried to add to the team and it failed.

Both can be true.
Pens are not his fault.
He is a lousey GM , wrong guy to rebuild them.