Player Discussion David Perron (D) 2 years / 4M AAV

[HSF]

Bingo.

If Perron can maintain the level he had the last couple seasons into the next couple this is a good move.

The sens need some jam up front and Perron brings that. I'm fine with this addition.


40ish points is fine for a shit disturber third liner.

The sens will go as far as stutzle, Tkachuk, batherson, Morris and pinto take them.

If those guys can't score enough to win at this stage, the team is totally f***ed and another rebuild is necessary.

All staios can do is try to insulate them with vet leadership and hope foe the best.

he slowed down last season according to Det fans

https://x.com/i/web/status/1797003585248481727

 

[Do Make Say Think]

The Chychrun money went to Jensen.

Likely more money heading out

I struggle to see how we will be able to trade Joseph and not have to take money back

How do you know that?

Garrioch (I know I know, but) wrote "the Wings tried desperately to keep him".

That means they tried everything outside of massively overpaying for him.

Thankfully it is just a 2 year deal. He's old, slow and takes a lot of bad penalties and with our luck, he falls off the cliff this year. Detroit wasn't going to match 8 million dollars to find out if Perron can defy father time one more year.

 

[Answer]

This is the best we can do?

Oh well, another year of no playoff hockey

 

[StoicSensFan]

I know I'll eventually like this, but right now it just feels dirty.

 

[Emerica]

This is the best we can do?

Oh well, another year of no playoff hockey

oh well!

 

[Micklebot]

Well we really need Joseph now. This team got a lot slower.

Who do you feel Perron is replacing in the lineup? Tarasenko wasn't fast by any means, I don't really see this as moving the needle.

 

[ottawah]

30 even strength points last year with most common linemates (5v5) Raymond and Larkin. 36 years old with 4 straight years of declining production.

Not sure what this buys us ......

 

[PlayOn]

30 even strength points last year with most common linemates (5v5) Raymond and Larkin. 36 years old with 4 straight years of declining production.

Not sure what this buys us ......

I don’t think he’s all that good anymore, and they likely brought him in mostly for culture reasons and not wanting too much term on players.

But he can help our PP2 and he’s good along the boards which we could use. Staios talked a lot about habits and professionalism though and I think this one was probably a lot about bringing in a guy who will make sure they’re preparing properly and practicing hard etc.

 

[Micklebot]

30 even strength points last year with most common linemates (5v5) Raymond and Larkin. 36 years old with 4 straight years of declining production.

Not sure what this buys us ......

I think some context is missing here,

While his most common linemates were indeed Raymond and Larkin, he also spent almost twice as much time away from each of them (about 550-600 mins each) than he did with them (around 250-300 each)

 

[Senator Stanley]

I struggle to see how we will be able to trade Joseph and not have to take money back


That means they tried everything outside of massively overpaying for him.

Thankfully it is just a 2 year deal. He's old, slow and takes a lot of bad penalties and with our luck, he falls off the cliff this year. Detroit wasn't going to match 8 million dollars to find out if Perron can defy father time one more year.

On Joseph, I think he's moveable after seeing the contracts being handed out in free agency. Two years at below $3M is a solid contract for a guy like Joseph, and he brings something - top 9 speed - that teams value.

 

[PlayOn]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808148134519845326

These are elements we badly needed last year along with the veteran leadership so Perron’s flaws aside, I think he will help.

 

[StoicSensFan]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808148134519845326

These are elements we badly needed last year along with the veteran leadership so Perron’s flaws aside, I think he will help.

I remember hate-watching the last two games of the season for the Wings and he was a big reason why they almost snuck into the playoffs. Tough, smart plays in critical game moments - will be huge if when we make the playoffs.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808148134519845326

These are elements we badly needed last year along with the veteran leadership so Perron’s flaws aside, I think he will help.

That's an encouraging comment for sure. My fear is that we'll use him as a top-6 winger too much due to lack of depth instead of the shit-disturbing, puck possession third line guy he should be at this point of his career.

 

[Icelevel]

That's an encouraging comment for sure. My fear is that we'll use him as a top-6 winger too much due to lack of depth instead of the shit-disturbing, puck possession third line guy he should be at this point of his career.

As a third liner I can really like that. Will depend on a few things I guess. Norris,pinto,giroux, greig.
We’ll see.
I’m expecting him to be a good addition though.
Probably prefer his style to Tarasenko. Hope he can keep the pace up the next two years.

 

[bicboi64]

This signing is a firm C-

He isn't particularly good on the ice without stars, is a PP merchant, and was a dirtbag against Zub, who is our 2nd most important defender. Exactly what was the logic behind this? Like you're better off taking a chance on Oloffson at $1 million and hope he hits 15g than spending cap on a declining Perron.

We still need to sign Pinto and sign a defender for our bottom pairing

 

[coladin]

Really like this signing. Sold veteran who can chip in

 

[thinkwild]

Calling him a dirtbag is i guess understandable when standing up for the team as a fan. But its not the interpretation i would put on that play as an impartial observer. If we saw our Captain splayed out on the ice everyone here would be demanding someone do something. And i dont believe for a second you would use that term if Perron did that defending Brady even if he shot first and asked questions later again. Players often fight each other as opponents and then come together when teammates. They get over it

 

[SpezDispenser]

Wash the stink of the Red Wings right off you before you even consider stepping foot in the arena.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Calling him a dirtbag is i guess understandable when standing up for the team as a fan. But its not the interpretation i would put on that play as an impartial observer. If we saw our Captain splayed out on the ice everyone here would be demanding someone do something. And i dont believe for a second you would use that term if Perron did that defending Brady even if he shot first and asked questions later again. Players often fight each other as opponents and then come together when teammates. They get over it

Staios literally said that incident was indicative of his passion and caring about his teammates or something to that effect. Said Andlauer joked that their stalls need to be next to each other so they can sort it out.

Nothing burger imo and management obviously feels that way.

 

[StutzlesNumber1Fan]

Fine middle 6 option who will hold teammates accountable. I'm fine with it now that Pinto is signed. Perron - Ridly on the 3nd line could be a bitch to play against lol.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809018198013964656

 

[Senscore]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809018198013964656

"So why'd you attack Zub like that? You some kinda asshole?"

 

[GCK]

This signing is a firm C-

He isn't particularly good on the ice without stars, is a PP merchant, and was a dirtbag against Zub, who is our 2nd most important defender. Exactly what was the logic behind this? Like you're better off taking a chance on Oloffson at $1 million and hope he hits 15g than spending cap on a declining Perron.

We still need to sign Pinto and sign a defender for our bottom pairing

Not sure Oloffson is coming in and helping change the culture.

 

[milkbag]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809018198013964656

"So why'd you attack Zub like that? You some kinda asshole?"

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Slow ass skating aside, I think his type of precense is needed. Like a bottom-six verison of Giroux to help guys like Greig and Pinto, and guys pushing for spots like Crookshank.