OT: Sens Lounge LXXXXI - Lying is bad, mmkay?

[Mingus Dew]

I'm not questioning you in any way, I'm just really curious about what is next for you after 8 years of post secondary schooling. I'm curious in that I wonder what career you are going to choose now. Will you be reporting to someone that has less schooling but now has far more work experience? I just find it an interesting dynamic.

I'm going to be working as a lawyer (hopefully; still have to survive the bar exam). In Ontario you need an undergraduate degree to be eligible for law school. So that's 4 years for my bachelor's, 3 more for my JD and finally 1 more for my MBA.

My superiors will have the same amount of schooling as me (less in some cases, more in others), but much more legal experience.

 

[Caeldan]

Or you could, you know, just buy the $9 converter. All headphones will be wireless in the future, Apple is just starting the conversion. I happen to have a very good set of headphones with a 3.5 mm jack, I can't wear airpods or buds. I'll gladly spend $9 to use them for many more years regardless of the phone I have.

To be fair I believe the converter is being included in the box with the iPhone7.

That said, there's already a perfectly acceptable wireless solution at present that uses an open standard (Bluetooth). There's also an open wired solution that provides digital audio that is being adopted by every other manufacturer (USB-C).
Pro-consumer would be if you didn't like those standards, and wanted to introduce an improvement you create a consortium of like-minded companies and develop a competitor. Not develop a proprietary standard designed to further increase vendor lock-in, and third party licensing fees. I feel this W1 chip is going to go the way of Firewire and Thurnderbolt in a few years.

What needs to happen, is for companies to get over this thinness disease of phone design (since majority of people toss their phones into a case immediately anyway, thin design is pointless). And if we are going to drop the 3.5mm jack, then we can start having two general purpose USB-C connectors, so that proper peripheral management in our mobile devices can occur without a bunch of fancy dongles.

 

[Harbinger]

My family has good friends whose daughter just gave birth a few days ago. This weekend I shall give her a baby shirt that says "Whoops" on the front.

 

[BondraTime]

I'm going to be working as a lawyer (hopefully; still have to survive the bar exam). In Ontario you need an undergraduate degree to be eligible for law school. So that's 4 years for my bachelor's, 3 more for my JD and finally 1 more for my MBA.

My superiors will have the same amount of schooling as me (less in some cases, more in others), but much more legal experience.

You have to do your articling first don't you? My brother did at least, but he went to school in Canada (you went to New York didn't you?)

 

[HavlatMach9]

Apple being anti-consumer?

OH WOW, I WOULD NEVER HAVE EXPECTED THAT.

mb it's like when Apple gave the middle finger to flash which in retrospect was a decent decision

 

[BonkTastic]

I've never purchased an Apple device phone or computer in my life. From the sounds of it, that streak is in zero danger of being broken.


*edit*
I do own an iPod, but that's because they've so thoroughly cornered the digital music market that we are at the overwhelming point at which it's an inconvenience of the highest order to even entertain the idea of going with a non-Apple product in this area. It's awful, but with respect, kudos on them for getting in on the ground floor on that one.

 

[BonkTastic]

mb it's like when Apple gave the middle finger to flash which in retrospect was a decent decision

The problem with Apple is that they force their users into falling in line with THEIR propriety technology.

I wouldn't be able to use my Sennheiser Momentums on the new iPhone out of the box. Or a pair of Audio Technicas. Or any high-end set of cans or buds. I'm forced into falling in line and choosing from a very narrow range of headphone products, buying an inferior product (because let's face it: Apple have never made a good set of buds/earphones ever, in their lives), for more money because they've put me in a corner by design.

And that adapter? Considering the quality of other Apple cords and "backwards compatable" adapters, I'm not holding my breath for any kind of quality on this one whatsoever.

 

[maclean]

You know what the best part of being a translator is? Having people whose first language isn't English sending you back your translations filled with comments about what they think you did wrong.

 

[Micklebot]

The problem with Apple is that they force their users into falling in line with THEIR propriety technology.

I wouldn't be able to use my Sennheiser Momentums on the new iPhone out of the box. Or a pair of Audio Technicas. Or any high-end set of cans or buds. I'm forced into falling in line and choosing from a very narrow range of headphone products, buying an inferior product (because let's face it: Apple have never made a good set of buds/earphones ever, in their lives), for more money because they've put me in a corner by design.

And that adapter? Considering the quality of other Apple cords and "backwards compatable" adapters, I'm not holding my breath for any kind of quality on this one whatsoever.

The vast majority of people these days can't tell the difference between high quality audio anymore. Ever since MP3's we've taken step back after step back. Heck, even stereo's no longer put audio quality first and foremost, they just market on checkbox mentality. Lossy compression, and the desire ofproducers to reduce the dynamic range to make it sound "louder" in order to appeal to mass markets results in total crap imo. Apple switching over to Bluetooth only is just another step in the same direction.

 

[saskriders]

People can be so judgmental

 

[BonkTastic]

Heck, even stereo's no longer put audio quality first and foremost, they just market on checkbox mentality. Lossy compression, and the desire ofproducers to reduce the dynamic range to make it sound "louder" in order to appeal to mass markets results in total crap imo.

Main reason I never got rid of any of my older CDs, and why I kept my old Harmon Kardon 5-disc turntable in storage back in Ottawa. Even though it's just sitting on a shelf at the moment, I know I'm going to want it when I eventually move back home, and that kind of tech is getting rarer ad rarer because a lot of it was never kept in working order (unlike older turntables and the like).

Most CDs put out before 1992-1994 have probably the best and most consistent sound of any medium, before the compression wars really killed full sound in the grunge/post-grunge era of music. MP3s and digital music are fine for what they are, but they can't hold a candle to the older tech from a quality and depth point of view.

 

[Mingus Dew]

You have to do your articling first don't you? My brother did at least, but he went to school in Canada (you went to New York didn't you?)

I went/go to law school in Ontario but will be practising in New York. Thus, no articling for me. That was actually a big part of my decision to work in the U.S.

 

[BondraTime]

I went/go to law school in Ontario but will be practising in New York. Thus, no articling for me. That was actually a big part of my decision to work in the U.S.

Ah ok. My brother went to UNB and works in NFLD.

 

[BonkTastic]

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

I actually like Apple products for some reason, maybe it's because my first ever computer was an Apple II GS.

Phones are just phones, I don't care one way or the other, but I switched to Apple phones and I do like the whole Apple ecosystem for ease of access. So I have an AppleTV, ipad mini (got as a bday gift) and my phone. Macbook Pro as well that I have had for 5 years and will probably keep for 5 more. I like the stable iOS, I am a pretty simple man when it comes to my needs. I have no needs to jailbreak stuff, or customize stuff that much anymore. Although I really did enjoy my Sony phone that you could take underwater pictures with and it was something like 20MP camera. It's a shame those Sony phones didn't take off I thought they were great.

I have my DSLR camera for taking pictures and like the macbook pro software to edit it, I am very amateur, don't need anything else very fancy. I like tech, but am not obsessed with it sort of speak (getting the newest gadget, etc.) Mainly I like tech for photo/videos and editing, and video games.

I get way people don't like Apple though, overpriced for the specs you get, and the consumer base is annoying I assume. There is one thing I will never buy and that is beats stuff, I am pretty loyal to Sennheiser because they've never failed me, and after I saw that beats actually put WEIGHTS in their headphones to make it seems higher quality and heavier, the weights actually serve no other purpose than that is ridiculous.

For Audio I am one of those vinyl people, although my collection is very small compared to a lot of people and very particular because it can become an expensive hobby and I don't want it to be.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Also, one week until I go to Riot Fest. The original Misfits are headlining, I am way beyond excited!

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Isn't it judgmental to call someone judgmental?

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Oof. No thank you. Even putting aside the price point, there's a 99.9% chance I'd lose them within a week.

Also, one week until I go to Riot Fest. The original Misfits are headlining, I am way beyond excited!

AWESOME. Misfits (non-original lineup) had to drop out of Rockfest and I was super bummed. That's gonna be one hell of a show.

 

[coladin]

I work in the U.S., so that is colouring my opinion on this. I am also completing an MBA during law school, and I guess my comment was directed at people who hope to make some sort-of law-to-business jump.

Everything I have heard and seen suggests that going from law to say, investment banking, is extremely difficult (whereas the opposite happens all the time, assuming law school of course). I think most folks on the business side (i.e. clients) don't really take lawyers seriously from a business/finance perspective. And considering that so many lawyers are averse to math and Excel I don't really blame them.

Maybe I'm just a cynic. I've been in school my whole life and am about to finish up 8 years of post-secondary. I think I'm having a bit of an existential crisis about my future and it makes me a touch negative.

Regardless, I stand by my assertion that only people who really want to be lawyers should go to law school. It is already hard enough for new grads to find employment because of oversupply (this has reached like crisis levels south of the border). There's no need to roll the dice on huge amounts of time, stress and debt unless you are really into the profession.

Good luck and I'm sure you will do fine out there as all those years of education, you will put to use in ways perhaps that you never even imagined. I don't blame your cynicism as you have been preparing for a long, long time.

I agree about people wanting to be lawyers should go to law school...not the environment to "find yourself" haha. You are pigeon-holed somewhat too, but I think you will see that your skills will be more transferable than you think!

 

[BonkTastic]

Whelp, North Korea officially made "sarcasm" illegal today.

I can't even make this **** up.

 

[Engineer]

While the AirPods surely are hideous, and the sound quality is likely garbage, I also gawked at the price when they were announced.

However after reading an article on TheVerge, they actually are a pretty standard wireless ear bud price and nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[Engineer]

The problem with Apple is that they force their users into falling in line with THEIR propriety technology.

Well the irony here, is that Apple's future vision is to use wireless technology everywhere, and to do so they are using bluetooth technology, which is not their proprietary technology.

As for laptops, they are moving to USB-C for everything, which is also a standard they do not own.

 

[DrEasy]

I'm mostly an Apple user, but that doesn't mean I'm happy.

- My desktop is a 2011 Mac Mini running Windows 7. I find Windows 7 less frustrating to use than Mac OS, and because Windows wasn't pre-installed it didn't come with a bunch of crapware. The problem is that Apple has neglected the Mac Mini line for a long time, and their latest update didn't actually constitute an upgrade. Too bad, it's a nice design but I'm moving on (just bought a PC replacement).

- my laptop is also a Mac, mostly because MacOS is/was much more secure against viruses. Here Apple frustrated their user by not adding a retina display to their MacBook Air line, instead coming up with the new MacBook, which looks great and thin, but sacrifices processor power, the number of ports and the quality of the keyboard. And it costs a bundle.

- as for MacOS itself, it reached a sweet spot circa 10.3/10.4 Panther and Tiger, was good all the way to Snow Leopard, but it's been downhill ever since. For example, their Mail.app program used to be great and now it's really frustrating to use. A lot of UI choices have been a departure from the way it used to be, meaning with each new purchase I have to fiddle with the settings to get things right. And that was usually my problem with Windows.

- I have an iPad Air, and that's a great gadget for playing games and reading the occasional big digital document. Only frustration with iOS is that you can't turn off the OS update notifications. And it pesters you on a daily basis.

- iTunes is a piece of crap. It's bloated with stuff I don't care about, while doing basic things is complicated. It's so bad I don't bother listening to my own music now and I just go to YouTube instead.

- AppleTV was ok until their latest edition which simply refuses to work properly, even after we replaced it with another one. So we went back to using the old one we had.

- iCloud stuff is fine, but their web interface is slow and clunky.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Good luck and I'm sure you will do fine out there as all those years of education, you will put to use in ways perhaps that you never even imagined. I don't blame your cynicism as you have been preparing for a long, long time.

I agree about people wanting to be lawyers should go to law school...not the environment to "find yourself" haha. You are pigeon-holed somewhat too, but I think you will see that your skills will be more transferable than you think!

Thanks for the kind words, and you are probably (hopefully?) right.

I still have a year of responsibility-free student life left, at least. And I'll be studying abroad to boot!

 

[Super Cake]

So just for fun, i tried to relocate the Senators to Vegas in NHL 17 and Vegas is apparently not interested in the team.

Well **** you Vegas.