Pre-Game Talk: Sens @ Leafs pre-season - 7PM EST

Dekes For Days · 2024-09-22T13:04:58-0400

RunItBackAgain said:
No. One. Cares. About. The. Regular. Season.

Lots of people do. I wasn't aware that tonight was a playoff game. It's early this year! I guess we should play worse units.

RunItBackAgain · 2024-09-22T13:05:29-0400

ACC1224 said:
IMO, you should wait for the team to have a PP before complaining about the PP.

Context to the post I was replying too. Jesus christ

Metroid · 2024-09-22T13:06:06-0400

RunItBackAgain said:
Context. You think second best Pp in the regular season means f*** all?

Y.E.S.

rumman · 2024-09-22T13:06:12-0400

RunItBackAgain said:
No. One. Cares. About. The. Regular. Season.

normally I'd agree, but I'm curious to see these guys play a up tempo in your face style of hockey from the get go...........

RunItBackAgain · 2024-09-22T13:06:19-0400

Dekes For Days said:
Lots of people do. I wasn't aware that tonight was a playoff game. Early this year!

Second best PP in the league over 3 years. IS THERE A TROPHY FOR THAT? Does it start with Stanley? No? Then I don’t give a f***.

SprDaVE · 2024-09-22T13:06:20-0400

RunItBackAgain said:
Ya it would be better than a first round exit actually. Top 2 pick on top of this roster would be amazing.

You'd rather watch a crap team all season? That makes sense. Leafs fans prefer a crap team over a good one for sure. So you won't be watching until next May for the inevitable 1st round exit?

Sypher04 · 2024-09-22T13:06:32-0400

RunItBackAgain said:
Context. You think second best Pp in the regular season means f*** all?

Having such a proficient regular season powerplay is a clear indicator that we should have the required talent to have a top tier playoff poweplay. I do not blame the new coaches whatsoever for wanting to coach the best players in that role and bring new ideas. I’m sure they spent all summer breaking down tape of our special teams to identify the problems. If they thought it was player personnel on the pp driving the issues and not systems/tactics maybe changing the roles a bit they’d be trying a different group.

Stephen · 2024-09-22T13:09:18-0400

rumman said:
if they can stay healthy the only one I don't have faith in is Lilly, we'll see if he can play Berube style hockey from the get go or continues to fade when the going gets tough.........

Lily is a question mark for me as well. For all the upside and the hope people place on him he always comes across as inconsistent as a competitor and the mental focus wears down when the fatigue sets in. Boston sniffs out weakness in him too. One of the guys Berube needs to whip into shape. As a defensive graduate of the Leafs development system he's not battle hardened enough to trust.

RunItBackAgain · 2024-09-22T13:10:28-0400

SprDaVE said:
You'd rather watch a crap team all season? That makes sense. Leafs fans prefer a crap team over a good one for sure. So you won't be watching until next May for the inevitable 1st round exit?

Context. Again. Where did I say I won’t be watching? I haven’t missed a game in over 20 years. The original post I replied to said “2nd best pp over the last 3 years” - in the regular season. Where the actual f*** does that matter at all? Seriously, how does it matter at all?

Stephen · 2024-09-22T13:11:38-0400

SprDaVE said:
You'd rather watch a crap team all season? That makes sense. Leafs fans prefer a crap team over a good one for sure. So you won't be watching until next May for the inevitable 1st round exit?

From a pure novelty POV, a bottom out season in a contending window would be extremely compelling, not to mention the possibility of adding a franchise level talent for 3x ELC years and the tectonic shifts at the big league level. It would be a disaster but it would be extremely engaging.

SprDaVE · 2024-09-22T13:11:50-0400

RunItBackAgain said:
Context. Again. Where did I say I won’t be watching? I haven’t missed a game in over 20 years. The original post I replied to said “2nd best pp over the last 3 years” - in the regular season. Where the actual f*** does that matter at all? Seriously, how does it matter at all?

It matters in being a good team? That's good right? Yes, playoffs. We get it. But regular season matters. It always does. If you've watched for 20 years you'd understand. If it doesn't matter you wouldn't watch? I don't understand at all the concept of taking a dump on any positives from this team. If it doesn't matter, enjoy your evenings and circle May 2025 when it matters.

The original argument was that this teams PP is a joke. Someone said it was 2nd in the league... can't be that bad right? PLAYOFFS THOUGH.

Sypher04 · 2024-09-22T13:12:45-0400

ACC1224 said:
IMO, you should wait for the team to have a PP before complaining about the PP.

The regular season doesn’t matter though remember, so I guess he should wait until they have a playoff powerplay.

Dekes For Days · 2024-09-22T13:13:32-0400

RunItBackAgain said:
Second best PP in the league over 3 years. IS THERE A TROPHY FOR THAT? Does it start with Stanley? No? Then I don’t give a f***.

There is no trophy, but it's good information to have when you're trying to work out PP combinations, and it certainly disputes the idea that the unit is a "freakin' JOKE".
If you only care about the cup, you're about 9 months early.

SprDaVE · 2024-09-22T13:14:23-0400

Stephen said:
From a pure novelty POV, a bottom out season in a contending window would be extremely compelling, not to mention the possibility of adding a franchise level talent for 3x ELC years and the tectonic shifts at the big league level. It would be a disaster but it would be extremely engaging.

Yeah it's so much fun assembling young players and in hopes to be as good as.... the team we currently have.

2004-2016 was when we could all agree this team sucked -- inside and out. It was a peaceful time.

Stephen · 2024-09-22T13:16:05-0400

Dekes For Days said:
There is no trophy, but it's good information to have when you're trying to work out PP combinations, and it certainly disputes the idea that the unit is a "freakin' JOKE".
If you only care about the cup, you're about 9 months early.

The powerplay has to work when it's called upon in critical moments.

The organizational change would imply the Leafs see a problem with it and need to make changes, which doesn't align with your business as usual messaging.

RunItBackAgain · 2024-09-22T13:16:35-0400

SprDaVE said:
It matters in being a good team? That's good right? Yes, playoffs. We get it. But regular season matters. It always does. If you've watched for 20 years you'd understand. If it doesn't matter you wouldn't watch? I don't understand at all the concept of taking a dump on any positives from this team. If it doesn't matter, enjoy your evenings and circle May 2025 when it matters.

The original argument was that this teams PP is a joke. Someone said it was 2nd in the league... can't be that bad right? PLAYOFFS THOUGH.

It is a joke when it matters that’s why I said context.

al secord · 2024-09-22T13:17:04-0400

RunItBackAgain said:
Context to the post I was replying too. Jesus christ

Even our lord and savior realized your context.

SprDaVE · 2024-09-22T13:19:09-0400

RunItBackAgain said:
It is a joke when it matters that’s why I said context.

It was still factually the 2nd best PP in the league in larger sample. But yes, they have failed miserably in the playoffs in a lot more ways than one.

But regular season matters. It always does. That's it, that's all.

Stephen · 2024-09-22T13:19:55-0400

SprDaVE said:
Yeah it's so much fun assembling young players and in hopes to be as good as.... the team we currently have.

2004-2016 was when we could all agree this team sucked -- inside and out. It was a peaceful time.

A disaster season and the possibility of adding a James Hagens to this core would be extremely interesting to watch unfold and could have a huge positive on this franchise and extend the window of contention for a long time. No one is going to actively cheer for that but that would be an extremely entertaining scenario.

SprDaVE · 2024-09-22T13:20:10-0400

Stephen said:
A disaster season and the possibility of adding a James Hagens to this core would be extremely interesting to watch unfold and could have a huge positive on this franchise and extend the window of contention for a long time. No one is going to actively cheer for that but that would be an extremely entertaining scenario.

I'd rather win and have a shot at the cup or get the full disappointment of the playoffs than lose for a player.

Maple Leaf · 2024-09-22T13:21:57-0400

Why you guys haff to be mad it is only a game

SprDaVE · 2024-09-22T13:23:05-0400

RunItBackAgain said:
Ok I’ll break it down for you simple minded people…

This pp is a joke
It’s second best over 3 years
No one cares about regular season

DO YOU GET IT YET?

This team sucks and this team is a joke for sure. When does the season start?

Stephen · 2024-09-22T13:23:12-0400

SprDaVE said:
I'd rather win than lose.

Sure, so would I. But we're basically the 2010s Minnesota Wild here come post season, so a Stanley Cup or a 1st overall pick both seem equally distant to me.

SprDaVE · 2024-09-22T13:23:38-0400

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PROUD PAPA · 2024-09-22T13:24:11-0400

Da Mash said:
Does Woll or Murray get the start?

Would be nice if Reaves pulled a hammy and was put on IR

Too many borderline players take liberties trying to make a preseason impression. He could come in handy.
Maybe later.

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