GDT: Sens-Canes: Ewing-Oakley-Mason-Rivers-Starks Theory Game 3

[Blueline Bomber]

One thing I love about the last second goals is the reactions from the bench when it happens.

I remember when Skinner scored with 4(?) seconds left against Ottawa earlier in the season, Brindamour had a bigger reaction than the players on the bench.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

we win gaem

 

[Anton Babchuk]

really a shame that rfranciso couldn't "get creative" and get rid of skinner to clear up room to have to overpay a marginal ufa just to reach the floor.

 

[RodTheBawd]

#1 jaccob slavin fan

Fight me for it.

Anyone else think the Canes were offside on that last dump in before they tied the game? There were so many other things they needed to look at on that goal I don't think they even considered it.

Yes, I thought that was what Ottawa should have tried to challenge, they didn't show a replay but I thought it was fairly obvious. I couldn't tell what the league reviewed and if Ottawa even challenged. I guess the ref misspoke when he announced it was a good goal (he said review by Toronto)?

really a shame that rfranciso couldn't "get creative" and get rid of skinner to clear up room to have to overpay a marginal ufa just to reach the floor.

I knew it's been you all along, <lazy N&O "writer">.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Yes, I thought that was what Ottawa should have tried to challenge, they didn't show a replay but I thought it was fairly obvious. I couldn't tell what the league reviewed and if Ottawa even challenged. I guess the ref misspoke when he announced it was a good goal (he said review by Toronto)?

Being in the final minute, the league initiated a review. I'm sure the verified the clock, and apparently they may have also looked at Terry for goalie interference. Maybe that's why the review took so long.

The TV replay doesn't give us a clear view because the puck was on the near wall, but the dump-in looked onside to me.

 

[Stickpucker]

Unfortunately, the evening's good feelings were tempered by the motorcycle accident on I-40. Motionless body 50 feet from completely destroyed bike == very very very bad news. Be careful out there.

...I just found out he was someone I worked with last year and ate lunch with all the time....wth

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Being in the final minute, the league initiated a review. I'm sure the verified the clock, and apparently they may have also looked at Terry for goalie interference. Maybe that's why the review took so long.

The TV replay doesn't give us a clear view because the puck was on the near wall, but the dump-in looked onside to me.

From section 120 it looked ok to me. The Hurricane on the far side looked awkward doing it, but i recall him straddling the blue line.

 

[Joe McGrath]

From section 120 it looked ok to me. The Hurricane on the far side looked awkward doing it, but i recall him straddling the blue line.

I recorded the game and went back to take a look this morning. Definitely onside, definitely awkward because Jordan hesitated with the dump in. The guy was Murphy and the fact he got in there first from a standstill in that awkward position is impressive.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

IMO, that's how Murphy needs to play if he wants to make it in the NHL. He's always going to struggle (IMO) on the defensive end, so he has to be confident and aggressive on offense and PP so that he brings more to the table, kinda like Gostisbehere does in Philly.

Also, somebody has to work with him on his shot. His wind up seems way too slow a lot of the time. Maybe he's just over thinking it or something.

 

[RodTheBawd]

IMO, that's how Murphy needs to play if he wants to make it in the NHL. He's always going to struggle (IMO) on the defensive end, so he has to be confident and aggressive on offense and PP so that he brings more to the table, kinda like Gostisbehere does in Philly.

Also, somebody has to work with him on his shot. His wind up seems way too slow a lot of the time. Maybe he's just over thinking it or something.

He definitely seems hesitant with his shot, like he's thinking of where he wants to place it, instead of knowing what he wants to do prior to winding up. Hanifin does the same, but Murphy actually has a good shot.

 

[tarheelhockey]

IMO, that's how Murphy needs to play if he wants to make it in the NHL. He's always going to struggle (IMO) on the defensive end, so he has to be confident and aggressive on offense and PP so that he brings more to the table, kinda like Gostisbehere does in Philly.

On the replay of that goal, Tripp says something almost identical and it sounds like he had been talking about it earlier in the broadcast.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

On the replay of that goal, Tripp says something almost identical and it sounds like he had been talking about it earlier in the broadcast.

I didn't catch that as I've taken to watching the opposing team's feeds so was watching the Sens feed instead, but I've been of this position for a while. The guy has a lot of skill, but whether it's a lack of hockey sense or a lack of confidence, he hasn't been able to make his impact on offense. I fear it's the former (lack of hockey sense) but obviously, it's pure speculation there is no way I could know for sure.

 

[geehaad]

I've taken to watching the opposing team's feeds

I have to resort to internet-based viewing, so given the choice of either broadcast, and not being a fan of Tripp Tracy's analysis, I always choose the other team's telecast. It's nice, but I do miss out on Forslund's call.

 

[The Faulker 27]

IMO, that's how Murphy needs to play if he wants to make it in the NHL. He's always going to struggle (IMO) on the defensive end, so he has to be confident and aggressive on offense and PP so that he brings more to the table, kinda like Gostisbehere does in Philly.

Also, somebody has to work with him on his shot. His wind up seems way too slow a lot of the time. Maybe he's just over thinking it or something.

I just don't see much in Murphy. He's a like a skittish dog that got sat on as puppy. He's basically Skinner's size (give or take a lb or 2) but Skinner isn't afraid to take\deal a hit. Granted Skinner's learned a lot from those concussions, but Murphy will have to overcome his fear of physicality if he's gonna make it at the NHL level. That's not his only shortcoming, it's just the one I always notice the most. His shot is OK at times, but I definitely noticed his slow wind-ups last night.

 

[RodTheBawd]

I just don't see much in Murphy. He's a like a skittish dog that got sat on as puppy. He's basically Skinner's size (give or take a lb or 2) but Skinner isn't afraid to take\deal a hit. Granted Skinner's learned a lot from those concussions, but Murphy will have to overcome his fear of physicality if he's gonna make it at the NHL level. That's not his only shortcoming, it's just the one I always notice the most. His shot is OK at times, but I definitely noticed his slow wind-ups last night.

Skinner is at least 15 lbs heavier, and built much stronger. It's also easier to get away with being a smallish forward than a defender.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I just don't see much in Murphy. He's a like a skittish dog that got sat on as puppy. He's basically Skinner's size (give or take a lb or 2) but Skinner isn't afraid to take\deal a hit. Granted Skinner's learned a lot from those concussions, but Murphy will have to overcome his fear of physicality if he's gonna make it at the NHL level. That's not his only shortcoming, it's just the one I always notice the most. His shot is OK at times, but I definitely noticed his slow wind-ups last night.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Murphy, I was just trying to say what I think he needs to do to be able to play in the NHL (confidently contribute offensively). You are right though that he's too tentative in terms of contact.

 

[GoldiFox]

Been saying for a while that Slavin could end up being the best of all the Canes D, he continues to prove that statement to be not-entirely-insane

The shootout goal was nasty. He completely fooled Hammond and finished it with a confident backhand roofing. Slavin just has that swag.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Been saying for a while that Slavin could end up being the best of all the Canes D, he continues to prove that statement to be not-entirely-insane

The shootout goal was nasty. He completely fooled Hammond and finished it with a confident backhand roofing. Slavin just has that swag.

as in, of the 3 youngsters? or are you including faulk in that too?

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

also

m jordan was good last night

like real good

i really wonder if hes gonna stick somewhere as a bottom pairing guy, he shows flashes, and while he has plenty of "wtf" moments he also has stretches of very solid, unspectacular play

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

also

m jordan was good last night

like real good

i really wonder if hes gonna stick somewhere as a bottom pairing guy, he shows flashes, and while he has plenty of "wtf" moments he also has stretches of very solid, unspectacular play

Agree, honestly, for all the **** some on this board give him, he's been respectable as a 6/7 type NHL Dman recently. Yeah, he's going to get sheltered minutes and he's going to have his shares of ups and downs, but that's kinda what you get with a bottom pairing guy.

 

[caniac247]

Being in the final minute, the league initiated a review. I'm sure the verified the clock, and apparently they may have also looked at Terry for goalie interference. Maybe that's why the review took so long.

The TV replay doesn't give us a clear view because the puck was on the near wall, but the dump-in looked onside to me.

The refs reviewed to confirm that the puck crossed the line prior to clock hitting 0.0. Then Ottawa used their coach's challenge to check for goalie interference on Terry. At least that's what was announced in the arena.

 

[Highway29]

M.Jordan is a reliable 7th.
I think Ryan Murphy will be 5th or 6th D on some team and offensive weapon if he shows that he's got some balls - he seems a bit scared out there..

But why was Tripp so high on Terry's play tonight?

 

[Neighbor Lee]

Didn't Terry mix it up with someone? Maybe Tripp had that in mind for one thing. They didn't replay it in the arena though so I could be wrong

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Agree, honestly, for all the **** some on this board give him, he's been respectable as a 6/7 type NHL Dman recently. Yeah, he's going to get sheltered minutes and he's going to have his shares of ups and downs, but that's kinda what you get with a bottom pairing guy.

Mark Borowieki is the topic of way too much conversation in Ottawa as the 6th defenseman. Someone on the Ottawa board noted 6 or 7 NHL "#6s" (the names mostly escape me, but there was no one impressive) and wondered if those names were similarly talked about in those cities.

Tl:dr? 6th defenseman aren't the issue pretty much ever.

 

[RodTheBawd]

M.Jordan is a reliable 7th.
I think Ryan Murphy will be 5th or 6th D on some team and offensive weapon if he shows that he's got some balls - he seems a bit scared out there..

But why was Tripp so high on Terry's play tonight?

I've actually liked where Terry's game is headed. If he continues to accept that his NHL ticket is to add some more physicality, he can be a good 4th liner.