GDT: Semifinal - May 25 - Canada vs Czech Republic

illone84

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That 2010 run is the thing of folk stories. At the time, Vokoun was a highly underated goalie and he came over and played amazing. We had a 'washed up' KHL Jagr who then returned to the NHL and continued to produce very solid hockey and wasn't even close to being done. Everyone else filled in. That team only had 4 NHL players and 2 of them were goalies (Pavelec was our backup). A young Voracek who barely played and Michal Rosival on D. Karel Rachunek was clearly one of the best D's in Europe and, I imagine, on his way back to the NHL. Jakub Klepis just kept scoring on Jagr's line. Lukas Kaspar in every shootout. Never have I seen the 'stars allign' so well in my life.

More amazing fact is that they were almost the worst Czech team in history. They were so close to being the first ever team to not qualify for the quarterfinals. Then a run for the ages. They won gold but I don't think their record was much higher than .500 for the entire tourney.

The following year (also in Bratislava) they sent a beautiful all star team (it was a big 7 then, it's now a big 5) and went undefeated. They only lost one game and got a bronze with a .900 record.

The other sidenote from 2010... Plekanec is our Ryan Smyth. He always showed up and played hard. The only year he didn't show was 2010 and we win the gold. Poor guy. He deserves a gold medal more than any other Czech.
I remember that final. Russians had lots of their top guys there. I'm pretty sure that was the game were Jagr was on the bench for the last few mins and could barely watch? Also, the game where Ovi ran into his own player and it resulted in a turn over and Czech goal. Who knows, maybe it will be a Czech vs Russia final, again!
 
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I am still waiting to find out when the luck threshold breaks within the 60 minutes from the people saying Canada was lucky yesterday. If they scored with 5 seconds left is it no longer lucky? Genuinely curious in how this works.
 
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I remember that final. Russians had lots of their top guys there. I'm pretty sure that was the game were Jagr was on the bench for the last few mins and could barely watch? Also, the game where Ovi ran into his own player and it resulted in a turn over and Czech goal. Who knows, maybe it will be a Czech vs Russia final, again!
yup, that was the Russian Olympic team against the Czech C team (back when we could field a C team). They should've destroyed us.

I'd love to see Czechs in finals against Russia... but that would be a pretty big upset. I thought the Swiss would've taken out Canada and they were so close. They seem to have a game that Canada struggles with. Czechs do not. Ironically, we do have a game that can give Russia headaches... sometimes.
 
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ismelofhockey

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I am still waiting to find out when the luck threshold breaks within the 60 minutes from the people saying Canada was lucky yesterday. If they scored with 5 seconds left is it no longer lucky? Genuinely curious in how this works.

You don't think a seeing eye shot that barely trickled in off of a blocked shot that could have rebounded anywhere but landed back on the defenceman's stick with 1.8 seconds to go was lucky? Calm your nationalistic tits. Switzerland played Canada hard and Canada needed a bit of luck to help them pull through. We may be good at hockey, but we're not above needing a bit of luck once in a while.
 
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You don't think a seeing eye shot that barely trickled in off of a blocked shot that could have rebounded anywhere but landed back on the defenceman's stick with 1.8 seconds to go was lucky? Calm your nationalistic ****. Switzerland played Canada hard and Canada needed a bit of luck to help them pull through. We may be good at hockey, but we're not above needing a bit of luck once in a while.
You kind of entirely missed my point lol.
 

ismelofhockey

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Yes...but that isnt what I was talking about so why did you bother quoting me?

Did I not quote you saying "I am still waiting to find out where the luck threshold breaks..."? It was just lucky. There is no threshold; every situation is different.
 

TheBeastCoast

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Did I not quote you saying "I am still waiting to find out where the luck threshold breaks..."? It was just lucky. There is no threshold; every situation is different.
...I was talking about the people saying it was lucky specifically because the goal was scored with less then a second on the clock. I didnt think this needed to be spelled out. Pucks bounce off people all game long. It doesn't matter.
 

ismelofhockey

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...I was talking about the people saying it was lucky specifically because the goal was scored with less then a second on the clock. I didnt think this needed to be spelled out. Pucks bounce off people all game long. It doesn't matter.

Who said it was lucky specifically because it was scored with 0.4 seconds left? Which people since you think there were many?
 

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You don't think a seeing eye shot that barely trickled in off of a blocked shot that could have rebounded anywhere but landed back on the defenceman's stick with 1.8 seconds to go was lucky? Calm your nationalistic ****. Switzerland played Canada hard and Canada needed a bit of luck to help them pull through. We may be good at hockey, but we're not above needing a bit of luck once in a while.

It was a shot on net. They had many and roughly 1 in 10 goes in. There's nothing lucky about that.
 

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1pm est.... but it's a saturday so I'm allowed to drink whenever I want.... I have needs ok?
I was just asking. Do whatever you want ... I'm gonna watch it with my friends and beer too. In CZE it'll start at 7:15pm.
 

ismelofhockey

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It was a shot on net. They had many and roughly 1 in 10 goes in. There's nothing lucky about that.

Having a 10% chance and getting it is the definition of luck. Again, it's not just the shot but the entire play. Not all shots are on target, not all shots get through, and Severson was lucky to get the rebound off of his previous blocked shot. The puck trickled in, but with just enough velocity to cross the goalline with 0.4 seconds. So 10% would be lucky enough, but really the odds were even worse than that.

You are beginning to sound like fellow Sens fans against the Rangers in the playoffs, where apparently it wasn't lucky when Pageau scored a late game-tying goal when the puck deflected off of his leg after bouncing off of two Rangers. Nothing lucky about that!
 

ismelofhockey

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Go look at the game thread from yesterday lol I really dont care if you believe me or not. Keep arguing your tangent champ.

Ah, so you expected us all to have followed your own conversations from another thread? Ok then...

But to the real point here: do you agree the goal was lucky?
 

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