StIllmatic
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The problem is how the coaches use him more than anything, although I would prefer a more competent 13th forward. I don't understand AV sometimes 
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As I said in the GDT, he was terrible in Chicago on the PK. Look at the stats and see how bad the Wolves were. At the beginning of the season there were many games where the Wolves outplayed the other team but lost because of special teams. And Ebbett was clearly the main problem. He would play from around the dot on the faceoff circle and maybe a 5 foot radius out from that point. He never got any pressure on the point. The puck would be easily passed through his area and if he tried to defend around his net he would get shoved on his ass. He was truly one of the worst penalty killers I have ever seen.
I couldn't understand why Ebbett was getting so much time when he was obviously ineffective. But now I guess I do. They were training him up to play on the PK in Vancouver.
But how brain dead was, and is, this. How in the hell, when he was having so much trouble in the AHL on the PK, did they think he capable of doing this in the NHL? And why in the world where they playing him ahead of young prospect like Schroeder who would have better and had a chance to develop?
Having watched Ebbetts screw up so badly in Chicago, I started pulling my hair out when I read in the papers what a good person he was on the special teams. This was total BS. However, I felt that the organization and the coaches must realize the truth and would never mess around with Ebbett on the special teams. (or anywhere else as far as I was concerned). But then AV starts using him all the time on the PK.
The results were absolutely predictable by any one with half a mind. There should never have been any consideration of Ebbett. The fact the team actually entertained the idea that he could be effective throws the whole assessment ability of team leadership into doubt. No one should have ever believed Ebbett was an NHL player and certainly not one who could be played in critical situations.
I watched and dismissed Ebbett last year and anyone with a shred of hockey knowledge should have done so as well. He was simply too slow and too small to play at the NHL level. And I watched him a lot in the AHL this year and felt he was average to marginal at that level.
The whole Ebbett fiasco really calls into question 1) the teams pro scouting and 2) any credence you can put into the local hockey writers and announcers.
The fact that some are still trying to justify Ebbett's position is testimony to how easily people can be affected by newspaper trash or how sternly some people want to avoid reality.
I couldn't understand why Ebbett was getting so much time when he was obviously ineffective. But now I guess I do. They were training him up to play on the PK in Vancouver.
But how brain dead was, and is, this. How in the hell, when he was having so much trouble in the AHL on the PK, did they think he capable of doing this in the NHL? And why in the world where they playing him ahead of young prospect like Schroeder who would have better and had a chance to develop?
Having watched Ebbetts screw up so badly in Chicago, I started pulling my hair out when I read in the papers what a good person he was on the special teams. This was total BS. However, I felt that the organization and the coaches must realize the truth and would never mess around with Ebbett on the special teams. (or anywhere else as far as I was concerned). But then AV starts using him all the time on the PK.
The results were absolutely predictable by any one with half a mind. There should never have been any consideration of Ebbett. The fact the team actually entertained the idea that he could be effective throws the whole assessment ability of team leadership into doubt. No one should have ever believed Ebbett was an NHL player and certainly not one who could be played in critical situations.
I watched and dismissed Ebbett last year and anyone with a shred of hockey knowledge should have done so as well. He was simply too slow and too small to play at the NHL level. And I watched him a lot in the AHL this year and felt he was average to marginal at that level.
The whole Ebbett fiasco really calls into question 1) the teams pro scouting and 2) any credence you can put into the local hockey writers and announcers.
The fact that some are still trying to justify Ebbett's position is testimony to how easily people can be affected by newspaper trash or how sternly some people want to avoid reality.
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At this point I'd call up Mallet or someone like that so at least they'd get the experience...Ebbett is a great utility 13th forward but that's his ceiling in the NHL. I see him playing in Europe next season
Edit: Hopefully the Dutch leagues so some moron thinks we should've kept him
Edit: Hopefully the Dutch leagues so some moron thinks we should've kept him
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I agree with c2. Couldn't some prospects benefit from playing in the big leagues? Getting some experience until Kesler and/or Booth returns. I see just about no upside in Ebbett playing another minute unless we get severely depleted...
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Who do you see in the system that could be playing NHL minutes right now and contributing?
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What's Pinizzotto's status? I'd much rather see him up here than Sweatt or Archibald.
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Waive him and Sign Jeff Tambellini.
Jeff Patterson tweeted a few days ago that he left Europe and was skating with Kes at UBC, and was wearing his Canuck gear.
He is now a free agent, and would be a nice upgrade on Ebbett in pretty much every area IMO, & he would also be a huge help in Shootouts which we aren't great at.
Jeff Patterson tweeted a few days ago that he left Europe and was skating with Kes at UBC, and was wearing his Canuck gear.
He is now a free agent, and would be a nice upgrade on Ebbett in pretty much every area IMO, & he would also be a huge help in Shootouts which we aren't great at.
Low risk idea. Has a terrific shot and good speed. Worst case you waive him.
Not saying he isn't better than Andy Debit but grasping at straws here.
Best alternative in organization is Andrew Gordon who is the top center on the Wolves.
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@orcatown: Good post on the previous page.
Pinner is injured. I think he would have been invited to camp had he been healthy. Just like last year. If it weren't for his bad luck...
This is where Arniel not using Schroeder on the PK really hurts his cause. Just absolute bull**** to say Ebbett has been their best forward. If he truly said that then I have no faith in how Arniel evaluates our players and chooses to use them.
I agree with this.
Pinner is injured. I think he would have been invited to camp had he been healthy. Just like last year. If it weren't for his bad luck...
This is where Arniel not using Schroeder on the PK really hurts his cause. Just absolute bull**** to say Ebbett has been their best forward. If he truly said that then I have no faith in how Arniel evaluates our players and chooses to use them.
I agree with this.
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