Value of: Sedins at the deadline

[jacks*]

Then we wouldn't even consider trading them. It isn't a great offer to begin with since McCarrson and Juulson have both underperformed. The Sedins won't go for next to nothing, especially with Vancouver having to absorb so much salary. Might as well have them retire as Canucks.



Vancouver would undoubtedly hold 50% of their salary. That's 7M for two solid top six players. At worst, they're a phenomenal second line. At best, they're still a decent first line addition. Contrary to what HF thinks about old players, GMs would pay to have that if the Sedins actually were willing to waive.



For one, Plekanec has to be involved even with the Canucks retaining 50%. Montreal doesn't have the cap without him going back. Regardless, Vancouver would demand Sergachev+ in that scenario. And they'd have every right to considering the amount of money they'd be taking back just to help Montreal. What you're offering is mostly the Habs' throwaway prospects. Vancouver isn't going to give up the two biggest names in their franchise for B/C prospects.

There is no chance in hell that Sergachev would be involved in any scenario involving the Sedins coming back let alone adding a plus. OMG i can't believe some of the players that some think it would take to get the Sedins.They can stay and retire as Nucks .All is well here.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

The fact remains that Montreal isn't gong to guy their prospect pool for two 36 year olds. The Sedins don't fit into Montreals speed game. Plus their NMC's mean they have to be protected in the expansion draft. So Montreal not only loses the assets they send back in the trade. But they also potentially lose a much more important player in the expansion draft than they would have without the trade. That's a lot to give up fir two players that can't play apart and seem to only gel with a grinder on their wing (Carter, Burrows, Hansen)

If the Habs firmly believe that they can win the Cup with the Sedins, they sure as hell would gut their prospect pool for one real chance at the cup. Every team would.

 

[hockeyheadlines]

If the Habs firmly believe that they can win the Cup with the Sedins, they sure as hell would gut their prospect pool for one real chance at the cup. Every team would.

I sincerely doubt the Sedins would make that much of a difference. Serious teams don't gut their prospect pool. At best, Montreal picks up a rental at the TD.

 

[dellzor]

What evidence is there? They **** the bed down the stretch last season, coming to a complete halt. Then they **** up Team Sweden in the preseason. Since then, they have discarded Eriksson and settled into also ran status in team scoring. This is on the lowest scoring team Canucks have ever had.

They are utterly finished as a pairing. Separated, they might have value similar to Heatley in his slowest season.

Onlookers, not filled with deranged love, see a team ruined by being structured to support two failing hasbeens. So, who is right? The local fanboys or the rest of the world?

I think I lost brain cells reading this

How is any team trying to win going to free up 14M in salary cap space for these 36 year guys? Think about it. The Canucks are in a position of weakness in trading these guys.

Have you ever heard of retaining salary?

 

[Qwijibo]

If the Habs firmly believe that they can win the Cup with the Sedins, they sure as hell would gut their prospect pool for one real chance at the cup. Every team would.

The thing is the Sedins don't necessarily improve Montreals shot all that much. As I've already said. They don't fit Montreals game. Which is built on speed. They're slow as crap. They also handcuff any coach by only being able to play together and have shown time and time again that it's difficult to find a winder who has chemistry with them. Eriksson was brought in and paid a boatload of money because he was supposedly a slam dunk to be th elusive winger to elevate Vancouver's top line to a fearsome
Level . Instead the "Swedish connection" fizzled and the Sedins end up playing g with Hansen or Burrows on most nights.

Yes they drive possession. Because they seldom actually shoot. They just play hot potato with each other before getting off a shot from the perimeter. There's a reason Vancouver has had a terrible power play for years now.

Keep the Sedins. They're future hall of famers. But their contracts, age, footspeed, dependence on each other, and need to be protected in the expansion draft means there's way more downside to trading for them than potential upside

 

[jacks*]

If the Habs firmly believe that they can win the Cup with the Sedins, they sure as hell would gut their prospect pool for one real chance at the cup. Every team would.

If the Habs firmly believe that they can win the Cup without the Sedins why would they gut their prospect pool.It seems that it's everyone except the Habs and their fans that wants the Sedin on the Habs.
Don't you get it .We don't want them especially if we have to give up anything of value.

 

[embryoniccrusadah]

I'd want to see them traded to a team for their 1st and then their next year's 4th, conditionally. With every won playoff series the pick would jump rounds, and if the team won the Stanley cup we'd get two 1st round picks.

 

[Addison Rae]

Absolutely no one is giving up any meaningful assets for the Sedins this season. It really doesn't matter what you may think, it's not happening. Expansion years are what they are, some teams lose more than others.

I don't understand what this has to do with my post? Learn to comprehend better, that's not what I'm arguing.

 

[Flamesjustwin]

Lmao sedins have plenty of trade value

Oh they do? Please explain how?