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I bet the husband is at best middle-tier "D-man." She's probably not even upset.
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Our defense isn't that great right now. Bear had several mistakes. One led to a goal. Andersen bailed out TDA once while he just stood there, and bailed out Bear a second time. Pesce has looked out of his normal godlike form.
We've not been bad, but our D has simply not been as good as it was last year.
We've not been bad, but our D has simply not been as good as it was last year.
TheReelChuckFletcher
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IDK. I thought that our defense in the 3rd period, in particular, was quite spectacular. Our defense has bent a few times but they've never truly broke so far to the point that Andersen was actually hung out to dry. Even the best games and defensive groups will have some defensive lapses.
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Honestly, I'd be happy if Svech settled into a power forward who could consistently score 30 goals. If he cleans up the penalties, that's a valuable player.
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Counter-argument:
He's currently tied in points with Tyler Bertuzzi and Oliver Bjorkstrand, a couple of 26 year olds who have yet to crack 50 points in a season. Personally I'm concerned that he isn't outscoring guys like that.
tarheelhockey
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Oh, for sure. If he had seemed like that kind of player out of the gate I'd be very pleased. But he does have an upside that's significantly higher, something closer to a Jamie Benn type player. That's franchise altering and would make the relatively ordinary 30-goal version seem slightly disappointing.
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Some hiccups in the D end but hasn't really cost the team yet, other than that he's been fantastic. Runs the top PP unit as well as or better than Dougie. His 5v5 minutes have been a bit limited but he also has started to see some time with Slavin too. No complaints at all and he's easily playing like a $5-6M D-man, not a $1M D-man.
tarheelhockey
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He's played as-advertised -- high octane offensively, needs some support defensively, mostly an asset on the PP. IMO he's making more mistakes out there than this board is necessarily talking about (as are Bear and Pesce) because we're winning the games and that's the bottom line. But at this point it's kind of ludicrous to have a player of that caliber on the roster at only $1M. He's staying out of trouble in the media, which is really the only way he could truly backfire while playing at this level at that dollar figure.
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Missing the entire season last year definitely sucked for him so I imagined he would be a bit rusty. He had a reputation for not playing defense when he was a Ranger, but that wasn’t necessarily the case for most of the fanbase because we would see him compete in his own zone.
Fox has done great job individually on our PP but Tony really thrived there. If he can manage his temper he’ll be a really good asset, and a better locker room guy than most people will give him credit for.
See ya later Jerks
Missing the entire season last year definitely sucked for him so I imagined he would be a bit rusty. He had a reputation for not playing defense when he was a Ranger, but that wasn’t necessarily the case for most of the fanbase because we would see him compete in his own zone.
Fox has done great job individually on our PP but Tony really thrived there. If he can manage his temper he’ll be a really good asset, and a better locker room guy than most people will give him credit for.
See ya later Jerks
He’s a downgrade in point shot from Hamilton as anyone would be, but who was the last player Carolina had with this level of vision and passing ability on the PP? Pitkanen?
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That's probably it. One problem with Pitkanen was his "unpredictability" (other than that cross ice pass with Jokinen for that back door pass). Pitkanen was very skilled and a good passer with good vision, but it seemed like a lot of guys didn't know what he was going to do so he wasn't always as effective as he could be. I remember John saying multiple times "Joni circles the wagons" as Pitkanen would skate around the entire zone 1-2 times on a PP while the other 4 tried to figure out what he was going to do. In fairness though, we didn't have nearly as much skill on the PP at forward as we do now so that's probably a big part of it.
DeAngelo has kept it pretty simple and not really been too aggressive, but he's been calm and in control back there and letting the game come to him, which is nice.
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Counter to your counter: those guys are just on a heater playing out of their minds against opponents who haven’t settled in yet?
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So what you're saying is... its not the size but how you use it?
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Thanks ^^
Missing the entire season last year definitely sucked for him so I imagined he would be a bit rusty. He had a reputation for not playing defense when he was a Ranger, but that wasn’t necessarily the case for most of the fanbase because we would see him compete in his own zone.
Fox has done great job individually on our PP but Tony really thrived there. If he can manage his temper he’ll be a really good asset, and a better locker room guy than most people will give him credit for.
See ya later Jerks
I wouldn't even go so far as to say he doesn't play defense. He makes the effort and is OK at it, just prone to a couple of gaffes per game. Likewise on offense he's mostly successful but also makes the odd head-scratcher turnover.
This is a pretty standard complaint with this type of defenseman. In an alternate timeline I'm saying the same thing about Gardiner.
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Haven't been able to actually watch many games this year, mostly catching the highlights, but it seems most of the time, TDA's mistake is whiffing on a breakout pass and leading to a chance against.
Of course, he's not the only defenseman that's made egregious turnovers in our zone this year, and as mentioned, Freddy has bailed them out afterwards, so it's not a major point of concern yet
Of course, he's not the only defenseman that's made egregious turnovers in our zone this year, and as mentioned, Freddy has bailed them out afterwards, so it's not a major point of concern yet
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The Gardiner comparison is especially relevant here I think. DeAngelo, at least through 5 games, is the guy they thought they were getting in Gardiner.
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In my mind I still win let me have this it’s been a long year
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One V One, I think ADA can handle himself pretty well defensively.
When it comes down to zone coverage and knowing when to switch off, that was a specific issue I spotted with his defensive play. He loses his man in zone coverage down low when teams are cycling effectively.
And like you highlighted, some defensive gaffes are expected from offensive dmen. A great offensive dman who’s a stud defensively is a rare breed in the NHL, so expecting that from Tony is foolish.
The turnovers though — that, imo, is rust. ADA wasn’t a turnover machine in NY. Even when he missed an outlet pass, it would be for a streaking forward that would result in an icing vs a interception + counter attack.
I really like Tony. I like his swagger. His cockiness, which is contagious in the lockeroom. If he can just focus on hockey, he’ll be a guy the Canes fanbase will fully embrace.
I’ve never cheered for any team other than mine since I became a Bills + Rangers fan In 1989. The Canes are the first team I quietly root for. Fast. Skjei. DeAngelo. Stepan. Raanta. And the ultimate troll job with JK.
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I remember from my lurking days also Robo, WTF, CI. I sort of shudder to ask. So I'll just say, fair winds.
(I seem to be only two or three days late to join in, which is unusually good. Goes to show, no spring chicken, whether fried or salad.)
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Watching Necas he seems cool to defer when the team is rolling.
When things aren't happening he seems to kick it up a gear and try to take over the game or make a heroic play.
The team is rolling so far so we see less of him trying to wheel and dangle right now.
