Value of: Seattle's 2025 1st Rd. Pick

[Blackhawkswincup]

If Hawks win lotto and end up with chance to take Schaefer, then would this make sense for both sides

To
D Kevin Korchinski

To
Kraken 1st round pick

Kraken would add 20 yr old LD who is ready for NHL

Hawks already crowded D would really have no purpose for Korchinski (Could be argued having Rinzel and Levshunov already makes it hard for Korchinski going forward since both Rinzel and Levshunov can PPQB)

Hawks D core would be going forward post Korchinski

Vlasic-Rinzel/Levshunov
Schaefer-Levshunov/Levshunov
Kaiser-Del Mastro

Korchinski and Allan would be odd men out (Allan) already increasingly looking as odd man out already)

 

[tomd]

If Hawks win lotto and end up with chance to take Schaefer, then would this make sense for both sides

To
D Kevin Korchinski

To
Kraken 1st round pick

Kraken would add 20 yr old LD who is ready for NHL

Hawks already crowded D would really have no purpose for Korchinski (Could be argued having Rinzel and Levshunov already makes it hard for Korchinski going forward since both Rinzel and Levshunov can PPQB)

Hawks D core would be going forward post Korchinski

Vlasic-Rinzel/Levshunov
Schaefer-Levshunov/Levshunov
Kaiser-Del Mastro

Korchinski and Allan would be odd men out (Allan) already increasingly looking as odd man out already)

A team may give up a late 1st for Korchinski but no way is he worth a top 10 pick IMO.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

If you were gonna trade the pick for a LHD like Korchinski, it makes more sense IMO to draft Smith or Aitcheson, or even Mrtka (RHD). They're younger, and though they could bust, they have a LOT of potential as well. Korchinski has potential of course, but it's looking less and less promising.

 

[samsagat]

Guhle?

Maybe something more added?

And with the +/- 6th pick, the Habs would take one of the good center in the 25 draft: Lundell, Desnoyers or O'Brien...

 

[Chose]

Guhle?

Maybe something more added?

And with the +/- 6th pick, the Habs would take one of the good center in the 25 draft: Lundell, Desnoyers or O'Brien...

I have been thinking about this for a little while.
Habs fan all know we have an abundance of LHD and appart from Hutson, obviously unavailable, and Matheson & Xhekaj/Strubble, who the league doesn't view as valuable, Guhle is the only piece with value that can be considered "expandable".
If it can help secure a 2C for the long run, I might be tempted to trade him.

 

[Dead Coyote]

Guhle is probably the only interesting offer here.

No, we aren't trading 7 to move back, only way I could see that happening is if Botterill decides to fully rebuild and we go all in on 2026 or 2027.

Korchinski is somewhat interesting if you think he's better than Smith or Mrtka but I think his value is low enough that we would be able to get more.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Hell no on the Guhle suggestion from a Montreal POV. Guy is the anchor of their blue line at 23 and they're in the playoffs a year or two ahead of schedule why in the world are we rebuilding again lol

 

[Fizzz]

Kaiden Guhle straight up

 

[Djp]

I am not if our 2025 1st round pick is on the table, but if it was, I expect it to be for an elite offensive forward. I suspect that is the big upgrade our management is looking for this off-season. Anyone from the Kraken prospect pool outside of Catton is likely to be on the table. As would be either or both of the 2 TBL 1st round picks we have through 2026 and 2027. Same is true for any roster player with the exception of Beniers, Wright, Kokko and Montour.

The expectation would be to return either a pending RFA or a signed FA, anywhere from 24-28 years of age and with 4-5 years left on the roster.

How many timed have teams moved their top 10 pick,knowing its top 10, for a player?

Pittsburgh traded jordan stall when his ELC ended for a top 10 pick thst year+ others

Arizona in a oanic moved traded it to thr rangers for Stepan

NJ traded it for schneider th I cling goalie was missing piece with their goalie entering final season

You woulf need to target s team with s drpth RFA/ELC we ho has top 3 slots locked in the next 5 yrs

What would need to be added for the following?

Seattle gets:
Mason Lohrei
5th pick

Boston gets:
Shane Wright
6th pick

This assumes:
-- Bruins think Wright could become a top 6 center.
-- Seattle thinks Lohrei's defensive play will improve with time while he QBs PP1.
-- Seattle is worried Boston will pick "their guy" before they can.

Flame away.

Boston needs to add significantly.

 

[Djp]

Value might not be exact :

Owen Power

for

Adam Larsson
6th / 7th overall
2nd round pick

... and then Seattle look at moving Dunn for a roughly equal D of the same-ish age that is more defense-first and PK-oriented. Possibly right-handed.

( Dunn replacement ) - Power
Oleksiak - Montour
Evans - 3rd pair RHD

Dahlin - Larsson
Samuelsson - Byram
Johnson - ( Clifton / Docker )

Buffalo doesn't do this

Dahlin plays RD. It's his natural position.

Larsson is too old to get Power.

Buffalo isn't looking to draft more high picks.

They traded their 3nd nrxt year they likely trade for 26 pi v k.

 

[Goatlender]

If Canucks decide to blow it up:

Hughes

for

Seattle 2025 1st
Wright
Catton

 

[Kraken Jokes]

can I introduce you to Mike Matheson?

Forget the 6th-7th overall pick, but what realistically is the asking price for Matheson this off-Season?

 

[Chose]

Forget the 6th-7th overall pick, but what realistically is the asking price for Matheson this off-Season?

Our two most pressing matters are to find a 2C, and one top4 RHD. So until we have an idea on where we are going with those two things, we are not really looking to trade Matheson. We do have a surplus of LHD, but like I said earlier, if we were to trade Guhle for a 2C, then I guess we would have to play Matheson for longer.

 

[periferal]

Did you mean Romanov?

Romanov for Seattle's 2025 1st...?


D. O. N. E.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

Romanov for Seattle's 2025 1st...?


D. O. N. E.

Yes, I would do that.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Yes, I would do that.

That would be unwise for Seattle. He's a little too old compared to how far away Seattle are from contending, and arguably not worth a top 8 pick as well.

 

[olli]

Thomas Chabot could be available

Why would the sens trade him for draft capital????

 

[kihei]

If Canucks decide to blow it up:

Hughes

for

Seattle 2025 1st
Wright
Catton

Can't imagine Canucks fans wouldn't react to this offer with anything but choice profanity. However, In a purely fantasy world, this might be a fun trade from a Kraken perspective--I know I would enjoy watching Hughes playing every night. In reality, Seattle would have to say no, as well. This trade would drain the cupboard of the one area that we might have real depth in a couple of years, centre, and our present prospect pool, while promising, isn't so skilled that we could hope to replace relatively quickly what we would lose in this trade.

 

[majormajor]

Byram, I'll send that paperwork over

That's the sort of move I could see the Kraken ownership group going for. Trade picks for 23/24 year olds so you can try to win now and still call it building for the future. But Byram isn't very good right now, so I hope they get someone better.

If Hawks win lotto and end up with chance to take Schaefer, then would this make sense for both sides

To
D Kevin Korchinski

That makes zero sense for Seattle. If they're going to get someone that needs a lot of development time and isn't a sure bet, they might as well pick their favorite one of those from the draft. That and I prefer Jackson Smith.

Guhle is the only piece with value that can be considered "expandable".

Why would he be expendable? He's the only Habs' LD projected to be able to play big defensive minutes. You think your coach wants two offensive specialists and a bunch of bottom pair guys on his left side?

 

[archangel2]

Until the lotto the value is unknown. There is a massive difference between a top 3 pick and the 6th spot they are currently sitting in

 

[Penguin Suited Up]

Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel like this year’s draft is a weaker one. I don’t think a 7th overall pick is worth a young potential top pairing defenseman.

 

[BKarchitect]

Maybe I’m wrong, but I feel like this year’s draft is a weaker one. I don’t think a 7th overall pick is worth a young potential top pairing defenseman.

It’s seen as weaker but there is definitely a top tier of 7-8 guys (per consensus of course). Seattle’s pick will be in that tier - so a chance at a Martone, Eklund, etc…a real blue chipper. Their pick will definitely be valuable.

There’s only one blueliner definitively in the top tier and he’s probably going #1. Most of these teams picking this high should just be getting the best prospects they can though, including Seattle. They are not at a point to be picking a 17/18 year old who is years a way for current team needs over talent.

 

[SabresFanNorthPortFL]

So you need a LD and offense, and want a certain age…we need a center and have offense coming up…

Byram and Peterka

Beniers

Even out as necessary

 

[Chose]

Why would he be expendable? He's the only Habs' LD projected to be able to play big defensive minutes. You think your coach wants two offensive specialists and a bunch of bottom pair guys on his left side?

That's why it was in "quotes". He is not really expandable. But LD is a position of strenght.
You have options to fill the position in the short/medium term. (Matheson, Strubble, Engstrom)

The coach also doesn't want tweeners at the 2C position, but here we are.

If you can get Desnoyers for Guhle, you think about it.

1BC > 3-4LD

+ you have defensive RDs to pair Hutson & Matheson with in Carrier & Reinbacher.
+ You can draft a #3-4 LD at 16-17 (Aitcheson ?)

 

[Kraken Jokes]

Until the lotto the value is unknown. There is a massive difference between a top 3 pick and the 6th spot they are currently sitting in

Yeah, I covered that in the OP. We're talking about the 6th or 7th overall pick.