Confirmed with Link: [SEA/NYR] Kaapo Kakko for Will Borgen + 3rd + 6th

[Filthy Dangles]

So much overreaction honestly, the guy was buttcheeks. winger picked 2nd overall who's a 30 point player over 82 games.

idc if there were players playing worse, you don't get to call out your teammates and coach as him. idc about your plus minus. You play 13 minutes a night, don't score you better not give up goals.

I feel like after his comments and dogshit game against Nashville where he backed up nothing, the org and Drury just had to move on.

It is what it is. that's his value at this time.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Kaako breaks out with the Kraken and he plays a major role in the Kraken winning their first cup ( which will occur sooner than the Rangers winning their next one).

Fire Drury tomorrow. What a friggin leach this guy has been ever since the day we signed him as a player.

Lmao, wut….

 

[Kravtsov420]

Someone post the reaper meme with the doors, Anderson, Kravtsov, Kakko…Lafreniere next

 

[Machinehead]

Someone post the reaper meme with the doors, Anderson, Kravtsov, Kakko…Lafreniere next

Anybody we just recently signed to an extension is safe.

 

[dieselbaby]

y'all are so dumb. he will fit in so well if he ever makes his way to a team that plays real playoff hockey. He protects the puck, moves the puck well, keeps o zone possessions flowing, and goes to the net. Never flashed the shot but he has the goods to grind on a cup team 3rd line.

hurr durr he sucks

Yup. Kakko certainly wasn't the problem with the Rangers, and them dumping him like this for absolute garbage in return -- just a day or two after he (rightfully) calls out that clown Laviolette for continuing to put non-performing, lazy, entitled overpaid veterans out there on the ice but blaming him, well, it's certainly not going to be doing any wonders for the whisperings everyone's been hearing about problems within the locker room/internal culture of the team, which definitely kicked into high gear with the whole Goodrow/Trouba, then Kreider (now Kakko, apparently) dramas.

Guarantee that Kakko continues to develop and finally mature into his likely role as a solid middle 6, Seattle should be a good fit for him, actually. Once again, this 'trade' will come back to bite us in the ass. Rangers management is a total joke.

 

[bleedblue94]

The im don't protests are so cute.

I agree with this but you DO NOT trade players for peanuts.

You can't convince me (& I wasn't a lover of KK) that we couldn't get at least a 2nd for him???

This is bonkers BS GM TAMPERING SHIT

So you think there was a better trade and Drury actively said nah I'll take the worse package?

There may have been elsewhere a slightly better value, but there's no way kakko as a horribly mismanaged 2oa pick was being dealt to more than may 10 teams in the league. You think nyr would consider trading him anywhere nearby or in the east and want to have people talking about him like buffalos Reinhart? Kakko isn't as good but the point stands, there a reason he's on Seattle.

 

[effen]

These are excessive reactions for a guy with 4 goals in 30 games who I don't think took over a single game in his career. If he did, I missed it.

 

[Mr Mxmzptlk]

Just saw this quote in Toronto Star....I'd like to know where Francis saw that offense:

“Kaapo is a young dynamic forward who brings skill and offense to our club,” Kraken GM Ron Francis said in a statement. “We’re excited to have him join us.”

 

[Machinehead]

Just saw this quote in Toronto Star....I'd like to know where Francis saw that offense:

“Kaapo is a young dynamic forward who brings skill and offense to our club,” Kraken GM Ron Francis said in a statement. “We’re excited to have him join us.”

Not to mention the skill!

Does Francis think he got Lafreniere?

 

[Ben Grimm]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6005250/2024/12/18/nhl-trade-grades-rangers-kaapo-kakko-kraken/

I agree with the NYT. We got little in return.

 

[Nickmo82]

A warm body is the best they could do huh? Couldn't we have fired Lavi/Drury instead?

 

[noncents]

Just saw this quote in Toronto Star....I'd like to know where Francis saw that offense:

“Kaapo is a young dynamic forward who brings skill and offense to our club,” Kraken GM Ron Francis said in a statement. “We’re excited to have him join us.”

this your first year watching? first 2 months of last season he fed zib and kreider chance after chance, they whiffed every time.

he's not a scorer, he's a facilitator. likes to possess, grind, draw defenders to him and then pass to teammates in space. particularly loves working behind the net feeding netfront. i'm sure you'll see a lot of that moving forward. Seattle has some guys who can find open space, unlike 93/20 or the other luminaries kakko has played with. Brodzinsky, Rooney, etc.

These are excessive reactions for a guy with 4 goals in 30 games who I don't think took over a single game in his career. If he did, I missed it.

it's just another of a thousand cuts to make this team worse. In a vacuum the Kane deal was mediocre.

You pile up enough mediocre moves, you got nothing.

 

[Barnaby]

These are excessive reactions for a guy with 4 goals in 30 games who I don't think took over a single game in his career. If he did, I missed it.

Absolutely. I was hoping for a 2nd rounder. Not quite that, but value is about the same.

The fact he was a 2OA five years ago doesn’t really factor in at this point. Hes in his mid 20’s and we have hours of tape on him.

You can argue that Drury should’ve cut bait earlier for possibly more value, but then of course “OMG fire Drury! Kakko has unbelievable possession numbers! This is a fireable offense. They never gave him a shot!”

 

[Jxmarts]

We're missing the big picture... The 3rd rounder goes to Detroit at the deadline for Tyler Motte.

 

[Barnaby]

this your first year watching? first 2 months of last season he fed zib and kreider chance after chance, they whiffed every time.

Maybe it’s my first year watching. I saw a guy who had an opportunity to play up and down the lineup over the course of five seasons who never clicked offensively. I also saw a guy who never flashed serious offensive potential … let alone did it with any consistency. Nope. It was all three of his head coaches, Zibby, Chytil, Panarin, Trocheck, Lafreniere etc…

He is what he is. A vanilla 3rd line winger who doesn’t play special teams. He wasn’t going to be more. He doesn’t have it in him.

 

[kovazub94]

7

20 would be an easy over / under betting line

 

[RempireStateBuilding]

All I know is Drury & Co. NEED to stop having their dirty laundry aired out to the public because they are actively tanking the value of their own assets by letting all of this bullshit play out in the media each and every f***ing time something happens. Even aside from the player dissatisfaction, there's been so many stories that have played out in the media in the last ~5 years that make this organization look like a clown show.

Andersson, Krav, Kakko all having their complaints be very public. This is now 3 young, promising players that all had their value absolutely driven through bedrock for one reason or another that could have otherwise been moved quietly and without all this fanfare. There was whatever happened in Hartford with Drury and Krav/the Wolfpack team. Anderson being injured and all his other off-ice stuff. Kakko's entire career/play time/usage/numerous healthy scratches.

We've seen NHL players like Strome speaking up against a coach to the media. Now Kakko.

The Trouba+Goodrow nonsense, both of their post-move comments, and all the apparent NYR fallout all playing out publicly.

Everything with Ramsay and the whole "information leaking" debacle playing out relatively publicly.

This entire debacle with the core quitting on multiple coaches and now the GM, all playing out publicly. Having whatever is going on referred to by the media as a circus worthy of a documentary. Knowing that it's such an open secret is dejecting as a fan.

Either this is a team of the absolute biggest prima donnas to have ever laced up a pair of skates, or Drury & Co. are truly the biggest jerkoffs in NHL history and have no idea how to manage people.

Remember when Drury was known for running such a tight ship?

 

[kovazub94]

lol kakko is twenty f***ing three. 3rd line solid defensive wing you can sign modestly, only upside, and you get rid of him for nothin.

this kid was not part of the problem. some of you hated him for no reason. boggles the mind.

What gives you so much confidence that after being scratched during a couple of playoff runs, never getting special teams opportunities or stick in top-6, never being a fan favorite (to put it mildly) that Kakko would choose to sign long term here???

As far as a trade goes this is a shitty return but it’s a FMV. Some say that a 2nd rounder was warranted. Well the combination of all assets that was received amounts to 2nd. It is what it is - just NYR shitty luck to get a 2OA in a shitty draft year.

 

[Barnaby]

All I know is Drury & Co. NEED to stop having their dirty laundry aired out to the public because they are actively tanking the value of their own assets by letting all of this bullshit play out in the media each and every f***ing time something happens. Even aside from the player dissatisfaction, there's been so many stories that have played out in the media in the last ~5 years that make this organization look like a clown show.

Andersson, Krav, Kakko all having their complaints be very public. This is now 3 young, promising players that all had their value absolutely driven through bedrock for one reason or another that could have otherwise been moved quietly and without all this fanfare. There was whatever happened in Hartford with Drury and Krav/the Wolfpack team. Anderson being injured and all his other off-ice stuff. Kakko's entire career/play time/usage/numerous healthy scratches.

We've seen NHL players like Strome speaking up against a coach to the media. Now Kakko.

The Trouba+Goodrow nonsense, both of their post-move comments, and all the apparent NYR fallout all playing out publicly.

Everything with Ramsay and the whole "information leaking" debacle playing out relatively publicly.

This entire debacle with the core quitting on multiple coaches and now the GM, all playing out publicly. Having whatever is going on referred to by the media as a circus worthy of a documentary. Knowing that it's such an open secret is dejecting as a fan.

Either this is a team of the absolute biggest prima donnas to have ever laced up a pair of skates, or Drury & Co. are truly the biggest jerkoffs in NHL history and have no idea how to manage people.

Remember when Drury was known for running such a tight ship?

Oh stop. Kravtsov had completely proven himself to be a bust.

Kakko got what he’s worth. His value was a 2nd which they pretty much got.

Andersson did next to nothing and they still got a 2nd rounder back - which turned in WC.

Blame the drafting. Blame the mental evaluation of a couple of these guys. Blame them for holding onto them for too long perhaps.

None of these guys will accomplish anymore than they already have in the league - except maybe KK by a small margin - this has zero to do with “dirty laundry.” Their on ice play dictated their value.

Kakko speaking up about being scratched once or twice is a long way from a clown show.

 

[kovazub94]

Andersson, Krav, Kakko all having their complaints be very public. This is now 3 young, promising players that all had their value absolutely driven through bedrock

This warrants a response from @Machinehead with three-headed dragon meme. You know which one.

 

[kovazub94]

y'all are so dumb. he will fit in so well if he ever makes his way to a team that plays real playoff hockey. He protects the puck, moves the puck well, keeps o zone possessions flowing, and goes to the net. Never flashed the shot but he has the goods to grind on a cup team 3rd line.

hurr durr he sucks

The return shows exactly what kind of player he was and this move was inevitable the moment he took that underwhelming 1-year deal. Imagine what his value was in the offseason.

 

[RempireStateBuilding]

Oh stop. Kravtsov had completely proven himself to be a bust.

Kakko got what he’s worth. His value was a 2nd which they pretty much got.

Andersson did next to nothing and they still got a 2nd rounder back - which turned in WC.

Blame the drafting. Blame the mental evaluation of a couple of these guys. Blame them for holding onto them for too long perhaps.

None of these guys will accomplish anymore than they already have in the league - except maybe KK by a small margin - this has zero to do with “dirty laundry.” Their on ice play dictated their value.

Kakko speaking up about being scratched once or twice is a long way from a clown show.

I'm blaming Drury & Co. for not maximizing the values of Andersson/Krav/KK/etc because all of this stuff - all the gripes and dissatisfaction of the way things are ran in NY and player fallouts - gets leaked to the media. I couldn't give a shit less what the outcome of any of their careers are. What I do care about is that Drury has minimized the values of 3 former top10 picks because there was some needless public spat between the player and management that ruined each situation.

I'm saying Drury could have chosen to move on from each player way, WAY earlier than each situation dictated. In Krav's situation before he ran away 7 times and all the other noise, when his value was at its peak. Billed as a young dynamic offensive player. In Andersson's situation, Drury could have spun him as being a hard-nosed young player with leadership traits. Kakko could have been billed as just a guy who needed a change of scenery and chance at a bigger role.

For reference, Kirby Dach (3rd OA in Kakko's draft) netted Chicago a 1st (13th OA) and a 3rd. Traded in 2022. Bowen Byram (4th OA in Kakko's draft) was moved at the end of last season and Colorado got Casey Middlestadt (a former 8th OA pick) straight up. Byram is already rumored to be on the move again and Colorado got themselves a solid player. Colorado also moved Alex Newhook (16th OA in Kakko's draft) for a 1st and 2nd round pick. Peyton Krebs (17th OA in Kakko's draft) was part of the trade package that Vegas sent to Buffalo for Eichel.

All 3 of our former guys could have been dressed up as blue chip prospects/players that would have been parts of larger trades that should have happened to get higher end talent like an Eichel. Instead we get some mid/late-round picks at best for our 1st rounders a few years after drafting them.

 

[wolfgaze]

Great to see everyone handling the trade well!