Scott Wedgewood injured in pain on the ice. Refs don't blow the whistle. Buffalo scores

[IamNotADancer]

If the play is blown dead they shouldn't be allowed to play the next period/rest of the game. Or if they stay in the game they get assessed a 2 minute diving/delay a game call.

Plenty of options that prevents it from being abused.

In the meantime this was the right call.
We can talk about adjusting and creating no rules but as of right now it is what it is.

 

[Leafs87]

Bensons cells does it for me lol

 

[JPT]

A goalie writhing in pain not trying to play his position when the other team has possession is a bit different than a player blocking a shot and taking a few seconds to get up.

The refs can use discretion, like many rules in the rulebook.

They did use discretion here.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Refs should of course allow play to continue as much as possible since a continued play can be reviewed as to its actual result, as opposed to a stoppage which creates only speculation as to what might have happened.

 

[Mattilaus]

A goalie writhing in pain not trying to play his position when the other team has possession is a bit different than a player blocking a shot and taking a few seconds to get up.

The refs can use discretion, like many rules in the rulebook.

Like the current rule which allows the refs to use discretion? Hence the refs "MAY" blow the play dead?

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

So what I'm gathering, if you're in the offensive zone, knock a defending player into their own goalie so he's injured and score on a wide open net.

This happened in the Bruins/Panthers playoff series with Bennett pushing Coyle into Swayman. Was a good goal apparently

 

[pld459666]

Goalies should be different than players no?

No

 

[pld459666]

The Refs may use discretion to blow the play dead, or not.

They used the discretion to not blow the play day.

You may not agree with the call, but its over and done with.

 

[TT1]

the nhl is a rookie league now, just give the refs 10+ years they'll get there eventually, they're still learning!

 

[Oilslick941611]

Every single player in the league would of done what Benson did... every single one

maybe not the Oilers though, we dont like scoring on empty nets

 

[Auston Marlander]

No they don’t, see tukka rask losing a blade , getting scored on then chucking said blade towards the officials .

Sometimes they do.

Sometimes they don't.

 

[Auston Marlander]

The Refs may use discretion to blow the play dead, or not.

They used the discretion to not blow the play day.

You may not agree with the call, but its over and done with.

Oh it's over and done with...so I guess there's no sense in discussing things that have happened in an effort to make things better in the future.

 

[Smif]

Did Wedgewood leave the game or remain in?

 

[Ezekial]

Did Wedgewood leave the game or remain in?

He's injured.

 

[PAZ]

Like the current rule which allows the refs to use discretion? Hence the refs "MAY" blow the play dead?

I'm not disagreeing with that. The call was made and it was technically a good call.

What i'm saying is the rule should be reworded so that refs err on the side of caution given the nature of the play.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Any idea about how long Wedgwood is out?

 

[Avsfan1921]

Any idea about how long Wedgwood is out?

Not last we heard. Bednar is expecting him out week to week but a good sign is he’s not in a boot or cast.

Edit: Bednar announced pre-game that it’s not a high ankle sprain and he’s expected to miss approximately 2 weeks.

 

[Mattilaus]

I'm not disagreeing with that. The call was made and it was technically a good call.

What i'm saying is the rule should be reworded so that refs err on the side of caution given the nature of the play.

Okay but now we are going in circles because my nest question is how do we stop players from taking advantage of this? And you say make the player sit for the rest of the game or get a penalty. Then i bring up examples of players needing a couple seconds to get up being punished (like in the case of blocking a hard shot). Then you will say refs have discretion and then I again bring up they already do have discretion under the current rule.

You don't like the call, that's fine, but as long as humans ref the games, they will not always "err on the side of caution" as you personally would have. The rule is fine as it is.

 

[PAZ]

Okay but now we are going in circles because my nest question is how do we stop players from taking advantage of this? And you say make the player sit for the rest of the game or get a penalty. Then i bring up examples of players needing a couple seconds to get up being punished (like in the case of blocking a hard shot). Then you will say refs have discretion and then I again bring up they already do have discretion under the current rule.

You don't like the call, that's fine, but as long as humans ref the games, they will not always "err on the side of caution" as you personally would have. The rule is fine as it is.

This is the rule at the moment:

When a player is injured so that he cannot continue play or go to his bench, the play shall not be stopped until the injured player'ss team has secured control of the puck. If the player's team is in control of the puck at the time of injury, play shall be stopped immediately unless his team is in a scoring position. In the case where it is obvious that a player has sustained a serious injury, the Referee and/or Linesman may stop the play immediately.

When play has been stopped by the Referee or Linesman due to an injured player, or whenever an injured player is attended to on the ice by the Trainer or medical personnel, such player must be
substituted for immediately. This injured player cannot return to the ice until play has resumed.

There's obvious room for improvement in terms of clarification with goalies. In terms of players abusing it, the second part of the rule can be amended like I was mentioning. Refs would still call players they always call it.

Not sure why you're so against changing an obviously issue, unless you think scoring against a goalie that's injured and unable to play his position should be part of the game.

 

[Mattilaus]

This is the rule at the moment:


There's obvious room for improvement in terms of clarification with goalies. In terms of players abusing it, the second part of the rule can be amended like I was mentioning. Refs would still call players they always call it.

Not sure why you're so against changing an obviously issue, unless you think scoring against a goalie that's injured and unable to play his position should be part of the game.

Because its not an obvious issue. It happened on one play in one game. You are acting like this is a league wide pandemic that must be solved for the good of the game. Your goalie was injured because of your own freaking player's actions in pushing Benson into him. You can't just stop the play every time a goalie goes down. If that's the case, I am putting a man in front of my own net and every time the puck comes close he is just gonna shove an opposing player into my goalie. I will instruct the goalie to lie there for a bit and bam, possession killed.

The refs already have all the discretion they need. If you feel like he didn't exercise that discretion properly here, we can have a discussion on refs being shit. I won't even argue with you, they are shit. But the rule isn't the problem and the NHL isn't in the business of changing every rule every time something little and flukey happens that you don't like.

 

[JLo217]

Double standard x2. Holy bias lol.

 

[Jacked Daniel]

They did

how is that possible though nhl referees

 

[JLo217]

Because its not an obvious issue. It happened on one play in one game. You are acting like this is a league wide pandemic that must be solved for the good of the game. Your goalie was injured because of your own freaking player's actions in pushing Benson into him. You can't just stop the play every time a goalie goes down. If that's the case, I am putting a man in front of my own net and every time the puck comes close he is just gonna shove an opposing player into my goalie. I will instruct the goalie to lie there for a bit and bam, possession killed.

The refs already have all the discretion they need. If you feel like he didn't exercise that discretion properly here, we can have a discussion on refs being shit. I won't even argue with you, they are shit. But the rule isn't the problem and the NHL isn't in the business of changing every rule every time something little and flukey happens that you don't like.

Unless it’s the Avs. I’ve seen it 4-5 times this year.

Regarding Benson go watch it again. Benson drove the crease and initiated the contact with Kelly.

Happens twice where Avs players were literally shoved vs random contact and it’s an instant whistle. Why?

It’s a problem.