Scott Wedgewood injured in pain on the ice. Refs don't blow the whistle. Buffalo scores

[Score08]

They blow the whistle when a goalie loses a blade...

No they don’t, see tukka rask losing a blade , getting scored on then chucking said blade towards the officials .

 

[Score08]

The moral of the story is don’t check opposing players into your own goalie. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Everything else that occurred after that act is irrelevant. If the goalie was hurt, it was from actions by his own teammate, so why punish buffalo? How many shifts did he miss with this injury? What happens when 2 outfielders collide going for a fly ball? Do they stop the play!? Hockey is soft, people wonder why this the NHL diving league.

 

[IamNotADancer]

It really isn't:

Unless your interpretation of "serious injury" is a player literally dying on the ice, that's a f***ing green light for pests running into goalies. Just throw yourself into a goalie after a crosscheck, it won't be whistled down.

And no, I'm not blaming the Buffalo player on this one, it was obviously just on Kelly of the Avs.

And it's also a green light for the likes of Smith, Binnington and Ribeiro to pretend they are seriously hurt in order to prevent a chance.

Good call, sucks for Colorado but this is a slippery slope.

 

[BLNY]

Avs players acting like clowns as big as Avalanche TV and the misunderstanding of the rule lol.

 

[Evergreen]

It's technically the right call. But it's a safety issue, a defenseless goalie should not be subjected to shots on goals they could injure him further.

How the player got hurt is irrelevant, if goalie is hurt in the crease, the play should be blown dead immediately. It's about safety.

You make a good point. Thanks for the reply.

 

[S E P H]

Benson technically did nothing wrong, but that whole sequence was poor sportsmanship. Glad he got to stat pad.

Nah, it was a poor IQ play by him. He blew a tyre by turning the wrong way and at the same time, Kelly barely bumps him. Not surprised that Buf lost 13 in a row. Low IQ team.

 

[PAZ]

And it's also a green light for the likes of Smith, Binnington and Ribeiro to pretend they are seriously hurt in order to prevent a chance.

Good call, sucks for Colorado but this is a slippery slope.

If the play is blown dead they shouldn't be allowed to play the next period/rest of the game. Or if they stay in the game they get assessed a 2 minute diving/delay a game call.

Plenty of options that prevents it from being abused.

 

[SladeWilson23]

No they shouldn’t

Having 100mph shots from a vulcanized frozen rubber disc is incredibly dangerous let alone when goalie isn't even able to see it coming.

 

[Three On Zero]

Having 100mph shots from a vulcanized frozen rubber disc is incredibly dangerous let alone when goalie isn't even able to see it coming.

That applies to all 5 skaters on the ice. Goalies also wear the most padding. Not a single rational reason that goalies should be treated differently in this scenario

 

[BB79]

Benson is roughly the size of a steel folding chair, makes sense

Wedgewood must be pretty fragile to get injured by such a bantam sized player then

 

[BB79]

What was he supposed to do? Ice the puck?

Take off his helmet and mourn the deceased Avs goalie obviously

 

[Three On Zero]

Take off his helmet and mourn the deceased Avs goalie obviously

The 11 other players on the ice need to remove there helmets and take a knee in solidarity for the injured player.

 

[PepsiCenterMagic]

they were consistent. they blew the play dead for dahlin because byram touched the puck right after. avs needed to get possession to get a stoppage for wedgewood.

Shouldn’t be about who gets the puck when it’s about injury. If a player gets hit the head with the puck and falls immediately to the ice, bleeding, you blow that whistle.

 

[Three On Zero]

Shouldn’t be about who gets the puck when it’s about injury. If a player gets hit the head with the puck and falls immediately to the ice, bleeding, you blow that whistle.

And they have.

Look at a goalie like Mike Smith and his theatrical diving around the net. That’s the reason referees get to use discretion. You blow the play dead and we will see an increase in embellishment from goalies. We already get it enough from players

 

[Mattilaus]

If the play is blown dead they shouldn't be allowed to play the next period/rest of the game. Or if they stay in the game they get assessed a 2 minute diving/delay a game call.

Plenty of options that prevents it from being abused.

The problem is and always will be, where to put the line here. So a player takes a 95 mph slapshot to the leg while blocking it, its a stinger and he goes down for a minute. He will be fine in a couple minutes after the initial pain is gone but for the moment he can't get up. Now he either has to stay out for the rest of the period or game OR give his team a penalty for diving, because he blocked a hard shot?

The opposite could also be true. A player gets seriously injured but they don't know it is serious yet, just that they are in pain and instead of staying still until they can get checked, they try to play on a badly fractured leg out of fear they will get a penalty for diving and in doing so, they make the injury worse.

 

[BlueOil]

Shouldn’t be about who gets the puck when it’s about injury. If a player gets hit the head with the puck and falls immediately to the ice, bleeding, you blow that whistle.

right, if a severe injury like you invented had actually happened, play would've stopped immediately. but that's not what happened at all, so that's why possession matters a lot here.

 

[JoeSakic13]

That applies to all 5 skaters on the ice. Goalies also wear the most padding. Not a single rational reason that goalies should be treated differently in this scenario

I mean….besides the fact that the purpose of the game is to shoot that rubber at the space they’re blocking with their body….

Not to mention this goalie had his back to the play as he was keeled over in pain. How much padding is on the back of a goalie’s neck?

 

[Three On Zero]

I mean….besides the fact that the purpose of the game is to shoot that rubber at the space they’re blocking with their body….

Not to mention this goalie had his back to the play as he was keeled over in pain. How much padding is on the back of a goalie’s neck?

Yeah, that slow and soft wrap around goal was a vicious puck that could’ve hurt him

 

[PepsiCenterMagic]

If the league truly cared about players safety, it would error on the side of caution, even if it meant a few false positives. In the case of obvious embellishment, call the penalty. In this case, it was obviously not embellishment.

 

[PepsiCenterMagic]

right, if a severe injury like you invented had actually happened, play would've stopped immediately. but that's not what happened at all, so that's why possession matters a lot here

in the matter of players safety, possession shouldn’t matter. Also, it’s called a hypothetical situation, and it happened before.

 

[PAZ]

The problem is and always will be, where to put the line here. So a player takes a 95 mph slapshot to the leg while blocking it, its a stinger and he goes down for a minute. He will be fine in a couple minutes after the initial pain is gone but for the moment he can't get up. Now he either has to stay out for the rest of the period or game OR give his team a penalty for diving, because he blocked a hard shot?

The opposite could also be true. A player gets seriously injured but they don't know it is serious yet, just that they are in pain and instead of staying still until they can get checked, they try to play on a badly fractured leg out of fear they will get a penalty for diving and in doing so, they make the injury worse.

If a player legitimately can't move/crawl to the bench for a minute, he should be taken out for the period and get properly examined. As for the opposite, a player will instinctively try and get to the bench if they can move to ensure their team aren't playing 5 v 4 with the current rules.

You see both of these scenarios happen often where a player takes a hard shot and go down for 5-10 seconds, and then get up and stay in formation because they're on the PK or limp to the bench. They're usually fine. But they could be playing through an injury doing so.

Like anything, there's two sides to the coin but there are a lot more positives than there are negatives. There will be rare occurrences where a player is only stung and can come back to the game, but it wouldn't happen often and player safety is more important.

 

[BlueOil]

in the matter of players safety, possession shouldn’t matter. Also, it’s called a hypothetical situation, and it happened before.

i agree, hypothetically, if something far more serious had happened to wedgewood, they should've stopped play immediately to ensure his safety. but in reality, for the minor injury that wedgewood experienced, they made the correct choice to let play continue until the avs got possession.

 

[Three On Zero]

If the league truly cared about players safety, it would error on the side of caution, even if it meant a few false positives. In the case of obvious embellishment, call the penalty. In this case, it was obviously not embellishment.

He was never in danger, the play was down low and away from him. It was good for the refs to let play go on.

 

[Mattilaus]

If a player legitimately can't move/crawl to the bench for a minute, he should be taken out for the period and get properly examined. As for the opposite, a player will instinctively try and get to the bench if they can move to ensure their team aren't playing 5 v 4 with the current rules.

You see both of these scenarios happen often where a player takes a hard shot and go down for 5-10 seconds, and then get up and stay in formation because they're on the PK or limp to the bench. They're usually fine. But they could be playing through an injury doing so.

Like anything, there's two sides to the coin but there are a lot more positives than there are negatives. There will be rare occurrences where a player is only stung and can come back to the game, but it wouldn't happen often and player safety is more important.

How many seconds were there between the G going down and Benson scoring? I'll save the research, it was 5 seconds. So if you want your 5-10 second rule to work here, the play still wouldn't have been blown dead because like you said, often a player will go down for 5-10 seconds and then pop up to stay with the play. Is the ref supposed to blow it dead instantly or wait the 5-10 seconds?

 

[PAZ]

How many seconds were there between the G going down and Benson scoring? I'll save the research, it was 5 seconds. So if you want your 5-10 second rule to work here, the play still wouldn't have been blown dead because like you said, often a player will go down for 5-10 seconds and then pop up to stay with the play. Is the ref supposed to blow it dead instantly or wait the 5-10 seconds?

A goalie writhing in pain not trying to play his position when the other team has possession is a bit different than a player blocking a shot and taking a few seconds to get up.

The refs can use discretion, like many rules in the rulebook.