Value of: Scott Mayfield

[SHANNYPLAN]

4/5 years at 4.5 M

 

[The Real JT]

4/5 years at 4.5 M

Agreed. If somehow there’s a $5M AAV offer out there and he goes for the money then the Isles would be hard pressed to match. They’d need to shed salary; Bailey and maybe Pageau or Palmieri. Sorokin and Dobson are currently due for big raises.

With all that being said, Lou is gonna keep him. I wouldn’t put it past him to continue to attach futures to any deal required that sheds salary.

Oh, and another thing FWIW. Mayfield has said some very complimentary things about the franchise, teammates and living in the local community.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Feel like he’d be on Washington’s radar as they try to rebuild their blue line for the remainder of the Ovechkin era.

Washington have Carlson, Jensen, TvR down the right side. TvR could slide to the left side if they brought in another RHD but I think he’s going to be too pricey for them — they need to update/upgrade their top six. If they sign Mayfield they’ll have someone making more than $4M per year on the third pair (either him or Jensen) which isn’t great for their cap structure.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

He will cone hone to stl

He'll stay on LI if the Islanders can afford his FMV contract. That's the biggest question here considering the Islanders cap situation is a bit tight this summer.

Scott Mayfield offers ringing Islanders endorsement ahead of free agency

Long Island, the place he’s played his entire NHL career and lives full-time, might end up being the place he puts down roots.

nypost.com

“I love it here. My wife loves it here. We’ve kind of set up, we have a house now,” Mayfield told The Post ahead of Saturday’s match against the Canadiens. “We have friends outside of hockey. We love the community. We love what we’re able to do. We have season tIckets that we’re able to have military members at games. So we’ve definitely ingrained ourselves in the community.

“I love the guys in the room, I love the ownership, I love the front office, coaching staff, they coach the way I like. It’s an ideal situation. We like it there a lot.”

 

[Djp]

He'll stay on LI if the Islanders can afford his FMV contract. That's the biggest question here considering the Islanders cap situation is a bit tight this summer.

Scott Mayfield offers ringing Islanders endorsement ahead of free agency

Long Island, the place he’s played his entire NHL career and lives full-time, might end up being the place he puts down roots.

nypost.com

Islets project to have $6M in space and need 4 to fill out their 23 man. Thr max Isles could do would be around $3M. Sure they could move a player to open up more space.

he could earn the same amount in his career through this year in 2 seasons on the open market. He can keep his house. It won’t go anywhere. He can sign elsewhere and get money.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Islets project to have $6M in space and need 4 to fill out their 23 man. Thr max Isles could do would be around $3M. Sure they could move a player to open up more space.

he could earn the same amount in his career through this year in 2 seasons on the open market. He can keep his house. It won’t go anywhere. He can sign elsewhere and get money.

Yeah, like I said, the only issue here is the Islanders cap situation.

However, there are options if push comes to shove.

For example, a buyout of Josh Bailey saves like $2.5M in cap, or an additional $1.6M assuming the Josh Bailey replacement makes NHL minimum.

They could also do a Casey Cizikas type contract where the cap hit is lower for more years. Maybe something like 6 years, $18M.

 

[Djp]

Yeah, like I said, the only issue here is the Islanders cap situation.

However, there are options if push comes to shove.

For example, a buyout of Josh Bailey saves like $2.5M in cap, or an additional $1.6M assuming the Josh Bailey replacement makes NHL minimum.

They could also do a Casey Cizikas type contract where the cap hit is lower for more years. Maybe something like 6 years, $18M.

with someone like Bailey…what’s the better option…buying him out or trading him with retention.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

with someone like Bailey…what’s the better option…buying him out or trading him with retention.

Really depends on the deals out there and the cost-benefit in terms of trade price.

Isles can save $2.33M in cap space by buying him out that costs no trade assets.

If it costs a second round pick to trade him and the team has to retain $2M in cap, it's not really worth it to trade him.

If it costs a second round pick to trade him, but the team only has to retain $500k in cap, it might be worth it. That's an additional $2M in cap.

 

[MikeyMike01]

with someone like Bailey…what’s the better option…buying him out or trading him with retention.

Trade, by a significant margin.

Buyout saves 1.6M
Trade saves 4.2M

 

[Djp]

Really depends on the deals out there and the cost-benefit in terms of trade price.

Isles can save $2.33M in cap space by buying him out that costs no trade assets.

If it costs a second round pick to trade him and the team has to retain $2M in cap, it's not really worth it to trade him.

If it costs a second round pick to trade him, but the team only has to retain $500k in cap, it might be worth it. That's an additional $2M in cap.

Trade, by a significant margin.

Buyout saves 1.6M
Trade saves 4.2M

you need to factor in replacing him on the roster with a league min/ELC to see what the true space you gain.

 

[biturbo19]

Mayfield is a really tricky case to project. There are so many factors up in the air or unclear.

1)Big RHD tend to get paid. Just look at the Gudbranson contract last summer. $4M x 4 for an inferior player. There are tons of teams searching for that "stabilizing" stay-at-home RHD. Question is...how do GMs generally view Mayfield? He doesn't have near the same pedigree as Gudbranson, or even a guy like Manson. Chiarot is another potential comparable, but with more "grit" and "pedigree" as well @ $4.75M.

2)He's the only guy on the market in his real "niche". None of Severson/Klingberg/Dumba really fit the same role as other RHD options. Scarcity can make goofy things happen.

3)He's going to be an old, 30 year old UFA. That makes the term even more complicated to predict. Compounded by the fact he's not what i would describe as the most stellar, effortless skater. How far into his declining mobility years are teams willing to go to land him for the short-term?

4)The salary cap as a whole is still very tight, with some ambiguity about where exactly it's headed.

5)Mayfield has played out his entire career thus far on "bargain deals". Is he going to take this opportunity to cash out and set himself and his family up for life? Or is he going to prioritize playing for a quality team and having a shot at winning? No idea where his head is at...but i could certainly understand if he wanted to chase the biggest payday possible with this contract.



My initial impression would be to expect something like $4-5M for 5 or 4 years, respectively. ~$20M ballpark. But i wouldn't really be shocked to something idiotic in excess of that if it truly turns into a "bidding war". I also wouldn't be shocked to see him re-sign with the Isles for like $3M for 6 years or something. Really could go a lot of ways.


Where the contract ends up will really impact how much interest i'd have in the Canucks pursuing him. No doubt he'd look good beside Hughes, especially compared to what we have as alternatives. But he has a really scary profile as a guy to tie yourself to for more than a few years at any sort of significant money. He's not a real "impact" player, he's on the older side, and not the most gifted skater. He's also played most of his career as a bottom-pairing, fringe Top-4D. Is that really a guy you can invest in to play on your top pair...or are you going to want to keep seeking out "better" options? Are you going to wish you'd just spent a couple million more per year on Severson or tried to find some other option entirely?


Really fascinating Free Agent though. Which means it'll probably end up in some really unremarkable re-signing with the Isles and much ado about nothing.

 

[PostBradMalone]

As an Oiler fan Mayfield is perfect for what we need if Ceci can’t otherwise be upgraded on. I’d happily throw $4.5M x 5 at him and staple his butt to Darnell Nurse for every minute of that contract:

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Mayfield
Kulak/Broberg-Ceci

It’s not perfect, but I’d be comfortable rolling all three pairs over the boards at any point in a game while the big guns go and do their thing.

 

[Legion34]

This is pretty true for Free Agents in general. Tavares didn't offer Toronto a discount. Panarin used the Isles for leverage to get the most he could out of the Rangers, etc etc etc

When you're a free agent, the only discount you're giving is if it's July 7th and you're still not signed.

Toronto literally took less money than both the isles and sharks offered.

He was offered 13 x7 by the sharks

 

[MikeyMike01]

you need to factor in replacing him on the roster with a league min/ELC to see what the true space you gain.

I did that already, assuming 800k replacement

The full buyout saving is 2.6M and the full salary is 5M

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Toronto literally took less money than both the isles and sharks offered.

He was offered 13 x7 by the sharks

You keep telling yourself that. He took the original Isles offer for one less year to go to Toronto. Dubas offered him less as a starting point and it wasn't accepted. SJ and the Isles came back with bigger numbers but Tavares took the Toronto offer. I would hardly call that taking a discount

 

[SCMURRAY]

On the open market Mayfield will be looking around a $20mil contract. 4x5, 5x4 and so on. Defensive Dman, play physical. Solid on the PK. Not afraid to throw gloves and will chip in 20 pts on the back end. Isles simply cant afford more then say a $3mil per season deal for him. I could see Lou trying to sign him for 3x6 but he'll be 31 at the start of that contract

 

[Legion34]

You keep telling yourself that. He took the original Isles offer for one less year to go to Toronto. Dubas offered him less as a starting point and it wasn't accepted. SJ and the Isles came back with bigger numbers but Tavares took the Toronto offer. I would hardly call that taking a discount

????? Sooo he took less total money from the isles

He took less total and per year from the sharks

11 million discount from the isles
14 million discount from the sharks

That’s the only 2 we know of

I would say 11-14 million is a pretty big discount

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

NYI shouldn't pay this guy 4m+ imo. Trade Bailey, but use the cap space elsewhere. Bertuzzi if he doesn't re-sign in Boston would be a nice way to allocate Bailey's cap. The top 4 is strong enough that you can find your 3rd pairing guys in the AHL or bargain bin.

My prediction is Mayfield to Nashville to reunite with Trotz. 3.8 x 7.

 

[Ovi895]

Shame he's a right hand shot, otherwise would be perfect for the Caps to put with Carlson or even Jensen