Value of: Scott Hartnell

[Czech Your Math]

What is the going price for Scott Hartnell?

Specifically, to Florida either now or at deadline?

What about an NHL-ready(?) forward prospect and a decent pick (late 3rd or early 4th)?

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[Skinnyjimmy08]

I still think he's gonna end up in Nashville. .. really don't know for what or if its even doable or anything like that but it's always just been a gut feeling

 

[BA Carroll]

I don't think it will happen, but it would be nice if the Blues could free up cap space by dealing Shattenkirk for a cost-controlled young forward, and perhaps by shipping out a couple extra warm bodies.

If that occurs, I would like to see them flip Berglund for Hartnell. Given Hartnell's contract, a mid-range pick or prospect would likely need to be involved also.

Short term, I think that improves both teams. Blues replace some of the grit and leadership they lost by not resigning Backes and Brouwer, and CBJ get a defensively responsible center/wing who will improve their puck possession metrics immediately. Hartnell's age and Berglund's inconsistency are a wash. I think it's pretty even value.

Long term, the deal is less appealing for the Blues--depending on Hartnell's health. But I'm assuming they're still wanting to compete this year, and taking on a bad contract that helps us do that isn't necessarily a bad tradeoff. I think it's worth the risk.

 

[WannabeFinn]

Who is the "NHL ready" prospect we're talking about here?

 

[izzy]

I don't think it will happen, but it would be nice if the Blues could free up cap space by dealing Shattenkirk for a cost-controlled young forward, and perhaps by shipping out a couple extra warm bodies.

If that occurs, I would like to see them flip Berglund for Hartnell. Given Hartnell's contract, a mid-range pick or prospect would likely need to be involved also.

Short term, I think that improves both teams. Blues replace some of the grit and leadership they lost by not resigning Backes and Brouwer, and CBJ get a defensively responsible center/wing who will improve their puck possession metrics immediately. Hartnell's age and Berglund's inconsistency are a wash. I think it's pretty even value.

Long term, the deal is less appealing for the Blues--depending on Hartnell's health. But I'm assuming they're still wanting to compete this year, and taking on a bad contract that helps us do that isn't necessarily a bad tradeoff. I think it's worth the risk.

As a Blues fan, I'd rather keep Berglund

 

[Czech Your Math]

Who is the "NHL ready" prospect we're talking about here?

TBD. They had some players with partial NHL seasons last year, potential bottom 6 forwards.
They would likely not part with a top prospect for a couple good years from Hartnell.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

id love hartnell on the kings but best offer i can come up with is king clifford and shore for hartnell at 4 million

 

[patrick]

New York offers Ho Sang. I hate Hartnell but only because he's not on my team. Exactly what the Isles need.

 

[mikeyp24]

The CBJ barely have roster spots for our own prospects we want to bring up so if we move Hartnell I see it being for futures only. Maybe 2 2nds or at the deadline a projected late first. Right now we don't have cap issues anymore and we don't need to move him for the draft because our key guys are all protected.

 

[CREW99AW]

New York offers Ho Sang. I hate Hartnell but only because he's not on my team. Exactly what the Isles need.

No, The Isles don't offer JHS. I will try and find a link to a recent, short article about how pleased the nyi are with what they see as JHS maturing. He turns pro and will be on his ELC this Oct.

A fan on twitter asked Staple about Hartnell to Brooklyn and it sounds like the Isles don't like the 3 yrs left , on the 34 yr olds deal.

 

[ncm7772]

Still a solid winger, albeit past his prime. Average prospect and 4th rounder, nothing more IMO.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Wideman.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Wideman.

Jackets wouldn't touch this because they're already going to leave Jack Johnson unprotected (Murray/Jones/Savard protected) in the expansion draft. They'd most likely be looking for futures/solid prospects. Think Hunter Shinkaruk.

 

[Crede777]

Hartnell fits into the Jackets' short term plans (he's good for 20 goals this season). But he doesn't fit into their long term plans given his age.

 

[nuckfan insk]

Benning will overpay!

 

[Jets]

He was a top prospect along with Spezza, Taffe, Nash and Datsyuk in NHL 2004.

That's an elite grouping to be apart of.

 

[WannabeFinn]

He was a top prospect along with Spezza, Taffe, Nash and Datsyuk in NHL 2004.

That's an elite grouping to be apart of.

Ah yes, Hartnell the prospect in 2004 with nearly 300 games played in the NHL.

 

[Nordic*]

Straight swap for Kevin Bieksa, please.

 

[Jets]

Ah yes, Hartnell the prospect in 2004 with nearly 300 games played in the NHL.

Nah at the time he just finished his 3rd season

 

[Rebels57]

Still a solid winger, albeit past his prime. Average prospect and 4th rounder, nothing more IMO.

So nothing for a guy that can still score 20+ goals and 50 points?

 

[lancer247]

He would be a good fit in VAN especially with Lucic signing in EDM. VAN needs some sandpaper in their line up.

 

[lancer247]

2 2nds (one being conditional)

 

[major major]

The CBJ barely have roster spots for our own prospects we want to bring up so if we move Hartnell I see it being for futures only. Maybe 2 2nds or at the deadline a projected late first. Right now we don't have cap issues anymore and we don't need to move him for the draft because our key guys are all protected.

I think it'll be something like 2 2nds at the deadline.

Jackets can't move Hartnell now without really weakening the team's offence. They have to at least give the season a chance.

 

[Czech Your Math]

I think it'll be something like 2 2nds at the deadline.

Jackets can't move Hartnell now without really weakening the team's offence. They have to at least give the season a chance.

2nd or 3rd and a decent bottom six forward prospect?

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

A MTL fan proposed a deal around Plekanec and Hartnell over on the CBJ boards earlier today....

To MTL: Hartnell + Campbell (salary reasons) + Milano

To CBJ: Plekanec + Andrighetto + 3rd Rd Pick

Jackets get a top-6 C as a placeholder for when Dubois is ready, Habs pick up their top-6 winger for the present, and one of the Jackets' top prospects in Milano for the future.