SBDSS - "Defensive Advanced Stats"

[Henkka]

My "scoring attempt" data:

This is very near of Fenwick, because I'll count mostly shots and missed shots from good position, and take off weak shots from bad position and point shots without a screen. Shots which are blocked are not counted, because I don't value them as chances, blockings are opposite team good defensive plays.

Data from yesterday:

DET vs. NYR 2-1 (ot)

Scoring attempts 23-32
0-10min, 4-3
10-20min, 3-7
20-30min, 4-6
30-40min, 2-2
40-50min, 5-7
50-60min, 2-7
Overtime, 3-0

PP attempts 6-6
ES attempts 17-26
PK attempts 0-0

So we did steal this game. Usually ~10 of my chances credits one goal, so realistic result should have been Rangers 2-3 win with those 23-32 chances. But Jimmy howard made a difference this time.

It was kind of weird how those chances happened. Red Wings controlled the game most of the time, but Rangers got their attempts usually in a bunch of them on a same shift. Shot, rebound shot, and new chance after circling around a goal etc.

Red Wings individual stats:

Pos, Player, Goal + Assist + Scoring attempt + Created attempt + Screen = Total

LW Jurco, 0+0+2+0+2 = 4 (2 scoring attempts, 2 screens)
C Datsyuk, 0+1+2+4+0 = 7 (1 assist, 2 chances, 4 created)
RW Tatar, 0+0+1+1+0 = 2 (1 chance, 1 created)
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LW Akader, 1+0+0+2+2 = 5 (1 goal, 2 created, 2 screens)
C Zetterberg, 0+2+2+2+1 = 7 (2 assists, 2 chances, 2 created, 1 screen)
RW Cole, 0+0+2+0+0 = (2 chances)
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LW Weiss, 0+0+2+0+0 = 2
C Sheahan, 0+0+1+1+0 = 2
RW Nyquist, 0+0+2+1+1 = 4
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LW Andersson, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
C Glendening, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
RW Miller, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
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LD Kronwall, 0+0+1+1+0 = 2
RD Ericsson, 0+1+1+1+0 = 3
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LD DeKeyser, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
RD Quincey, 0+0+0+1+0 = 1
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LD Smith, 0+0+2+0+0 = 2
RD Zidlicky, 1+0+1+0+0 = 2

So we'll see how Datsyuk and Zetterberg were two best guys again. Things happened most from their plays.

I also did count some good defensive plays or drawing a penalty and some bad plays (giveaway or penalty), but it was more of a "bonus" statistic. Wasn't very sharp with that, just counted some obvious things.

Same stats with those added:

Good play = plus, Bad play = minus.

LW Jurco, 0+0+2+0+2 (+0 -0) = 4
C Datsyuk, 0+1+2+4+0 (+1 -0) = 8 (Pavel had some good defensive play)
RW Tatar, 0+0+1+1+0 (+1, -2) = 1 (Tats draw a penalty, but had 2 bad giveaways)
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LW Akader, 1+0+0+2+2 (+0 -0) = 5
C Zetterberg, 0+2+2+2+1 (+0 -0) = 7
RW Cole, 0+0+2+0+0 (+1 -0) = 3 (Cole had some good defensive play)
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LW Weiss, 0+0+2+0+0 (+0 -1) = 1 (Weiss took a penalty)
C Sheahan, 0+0+1+1+0 (+0 -0) = 2
RW Nyquist, 0+0+2+1+1 (+1 -1) = 4 (Gus draw a final minute penalty and had some bad giveaway)
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LW Andersson, 0+0+1+0+0 (+0 -0) = 1
C Glendening, 0+0+0+0+0 (+0 -0) = 0
RW Miller, 0+0+0+0+0 (+1 -0) = 1 (Mills had some good def play)
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LD Kronwall, 0+0+1+1+0 (+0 -0) = 2
RD Ericsson, 0+1+1+1+0 (+2, -0) = 5 (2 good D plays)
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LD DeKeyser, 0+0+1+0+0 (+2, -0) = 3 (2 good D plays)
RD Quincey, 0+0+0+1+0 (+0 -0) = 1
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LD Smith, 0+0+2+0+0 (+2 -0) = 4 (2 good D plays)
RD Zidlicky, 1+0+1+0+0 (+0 -1) = 1 (Took a penalty)

So Ericsson, DeKeyser and Smith raised their stock in here, but I wasn't so aware about those defencemen like BinCookin was. Just some nice extra to add my own data. Pavel was the best player from our team.

I didn't count Rangers individuals, but I can say without putting any data on paper, Zuccarello was the best player of the game with +10 total chances. That line was dynamite, not much effort from other lines, imo.

 

[redwingsphan]

My "scoring attempt" data:

This is very near of Fenwick, because I'll count mostly shots and missed shots from good position, and take off weak shots from bad position and point shots without a screen. Shots which are blocked are not counted, because I don't value them as chances, blockings are opposite team good defensive plays.

Data from yesterday:

DET vs. NYR 2-1 (ot)

Scoring attempts 23-32
0-10min, 4-3
10-20min, 3-7
20-30min, 4-6
30-40min, 2-2
40-50min, 5-7
50-60min, 2-7
Overtime, 3-0

PP attempts 6-6
ES attempts 17-26
PK attempts 0-0

So we did steal this game. Usually ~10 of my chances credits one goal, so realistic result should have been Rangers 2-3 win with those 23-32 chances. But Jimmy howard made a difference this time.

It was kind of weird how those chances happened. Red Wings controlled the game most of the time, but Rangers got their attempts usually in a bunch of them on a same shift. Shot, rebound shot, and new chance after circling around a goal etc.

Red Wings individual stats:

Pos, Player, Goal + Assist + Scoring attempt + Created attempt + Screen = Total

LW Jurco, 0+0+2+0+2 = 4 (2 scoring attempts, 2 screens)
C Datsyuk, 0+1+2+4+0 = 7 (1 assist, 2 chances, 4 created)
RW Tatar, 0+0+1+1+0 = 2 (1 chance, 1 created)
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LW Akader, 1+0+0+2+2 = 5 (1 goal, 2 created, 2 screens)
C Zetterberg, 0+2+2+2+1 = 7 (2 assists, 2 chances, 2 created, 1 screen)
RW Cole, 0+0+2+0+0 = (2 chances)
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LW Weiss, 0+0+2+0+0 = 2
C Sheahan, 0+0+1+1+0 = 2
RW Nyquist, 0+0+2+1+1 = 4
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LW Andersson, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
C Glendening, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
RW Miller, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
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LD Kronwall, 0+0+1+1+0 = 2
RD Ericsson, 0+1+1+1+0 = 3
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LD DeKeyser, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
RD Quincey, 0+0+0+1+0 = 1
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LD Smith, 0+0+2+0+0 = 2
RD Zidlicky, 1+0+1+0+0 = 2

So we'll see how Datsyuk and Zetterberg were two best guys again. Things happened most from their plays.

I also did count some good defensive plays or drawing a penalty and some bad plays (giveaway or penalty), but it was more of a "bonus" statistic. Wasn't very sharp with that, just counted some obvious things.

Same stats with those added:

Good play = plus, Bad play = minus.

LW Jurco, 0+0+2+0+2 (+0 -0) = 4
C Datsyuk, 0+1+2+4+0 (+1 -0) = 8 (Pavel had some good defensive play)
RW Tatar, 0+0+1+1+0 (+1, -2) = 1 (Tats draw a penalty, but had 2 bad giveaways)
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LW Akader, 1+0+0+2+2 (+0 -0) = 5
C Zetterberg, 0+2+2+2+1 (+0 -0) = 7
RW Cole, 0+0+2+0+0 (+1 -0) = 3 (Cole had some good defensive play)
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LW Weiss, 0+0+2+0+0 (+0 -1) = 1 (Weiss took a penalty)
C Sheahan, 0+0+1+1+0 (+0 -0) = 2
RW Nyquist, 0+0+2+1+1 (+0 -1) = 3 (Gus had some bad giveaway)
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LW Andersson, 0+0+1+0+0 (+0 -0) = 1
C Glendening, 0+0+0+0+0 (+0 -0) = 0
RW Miller, 0+0+0+0+0 (+1 -0) = 1 (Mills had some good def play)
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LD Kronwall, 0+0+1+1+0 (+0 -0) = 2
RD Ericsson, 0+1+1+1+0 (+2, -0) = 5 (2 good D plays)
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LD DeKeyser, 0+0+1+0+0 (+2, -0) = 3 (2 good D plays)
RD Quincey, 0+0+0+1+0 (+0 -0) = 1
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LD Smith, 0+0+2+0+0 (+2 -0) = 4 (2 good D plays)
RD Zidlicky, 1+0+1+0+0 (+0 -1) = 1 (Took a penalty)

So Ericsson, DeKeyser and Smith raised their stock in here, but I wasn't so aware about those defencemen like BinCookin was. Just some nice extra to add my own data. Pavel was the best player from our team.

I didn't count Rangers individuals, but I can say without putting any data on paper, Zuccarello was the best player of the game with +10 total chances. That line was dynamite, not much effort from other lines, imo.

I like it, and it fits with what I saw. Except that nyquist drew the penalty.

 

[Henkka]

I like it, and it fits with what I saw. Except that nyquist drew the penalty.

Forgot to add that. Tatar did draw also.

I'll update the stats.

 

[ap3x]

Interesting stuff. I'd say, it matches the eye test pretty much.
Thanks for the effort.

 

[Bench]

Interesting stuff. I'd say, it matches the eye test pretty much.
Thanks for the effort.

What I like about these types of stats is that they ARE the eye test. It's the person watching making a decision if it was a positive or negative play. Now that leaves some subjective wiggle room, but, unlike straight number stats, it adds an important element of CONTEXT that is missing from most fancy stats.

Babcock has mentioned that the Wings keep their own stats like this, regarding scoring chances. Unfortunately, they don't publish them for us to see, so we're forced to rely on awesome posters like the folks here to keep a running tally if we want that kind of information.

 

[ap3x]

Precisely. It's all about the context. But as you mentioned already: To a certain degree, it's still subjective. So what i actually wanted to express, is that it matched my eye test pretty much - didn't really notice that I wrote it in a general term. Considering that, it should be important to avoid any prejudices or comparable kinds of blurred vision when trying to generate convincing stats. One person is certainly better at doing so than another. But the guys who shared some stats so far, seem to be pretty fair in these terms. So, that's when they can be valued as being really useful.

Speaking of useful: Would be highly interesting to see extracts from the Wings' very own advanced stats. I'm with you, what a bummer that they won't share them - even if still understandable for competitive reasons.

 

[Henkka]

The ultimate dream would be to have this kind of eye-test stats from every game, collect them and calculate per ice-time.

And when going towards really really advanced level, taking the quality of competition level and off-zone/def-zone starts in account. That wil need guys to collect data from opposing team etc. Then, it's kind of, how could you do it better than that? I could believe our organization has that kind of system. Why not do it in a "perfect" way?

 

[Mijatovic]

Im surprised you guys didnt give Zidlicky more minuses. Bloke gave up at least 4 2 on 1's

 

[BinCookin]

Im surprised you guys didnt give Zidlicky more minuses. Bloke gave up at least 4 2 on 1's

I think maybe you saw 4 2on1's against in the first period right??

Ya Zidlicky was on the ice for only 1 of those.

 

[Henkka]

Insane game against the Flames. They didn't deserve this win.

DET vs. CGY 2-5
Scoring attempts:
0 -10min, 7-3
10-20min, 8-3
20-30min, 10-3
30-40min, 5-1 (of course hudler scored from their only chance here...)
40-50min, 0-6 (and of course they did score from the first attempt on the period)
50-60min, 3-2

Total attempts: DET 33, GCY 18
(Attempts after 2nd period were 30-10, more realistic result on the board should have been 3-1 than 2-3...)

Just Crazy how Calgary had only 5 scoring attempts from 20 minutes to 42 minutes and scored 3 goals of them! Insane bad luck for us, this happens very rare. This killed Wings momentum totally, it was so undeserved. Wings didn't care a **** after that 2-4 goal, and minds did go already to the Bruins-match. It was just so obvious. They have had great comeback efforts at this season in almost every game you have to make a comeback, but this time, they didn't even try. Too bad, I really liked how Wings game looked for 1st half of the game, until Calgary started scoring from every second chance.

Individual stats:

Pos, Player, Gls + Ass + ScA +CrA + Screen = Total
LW Abdelkader, 2+0+2+0+2 = 6
C Zetterberg, 0+2+1+3+0 = 6
RW Cole, 0+2+3+0+0 = 5
---------------------------- Good game from the 1st line. They looked really great together.
LW Jurco, 0+0+2+0+1 = 3
C Datsyuk, 0+0+2+4+0 = 6
RW Tatar, 0+0+6+1+0 = 7 (Monster game from Tatar, but nothing did go in.)
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LW Weiss, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
C Sheahan, 0+0+1+2+0 = 3
RW Nyquist, 0+0+3+2+0 = 5 (Also better from Nyquist vs. Rangers game, but no results.)
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LW Andersson, 0+0+2+0+0 = 2
C Glendening, 0+0+0+1+0 = 1
RW Miller, 0+0+1+0+1 = 2
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LD Kronwall, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
RD Ericsson, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
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LD DeKeyser, 0+0+1+2+0 = 3
RD Quincey, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
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LD Smith, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
RD Zidlicky, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0

Didn't have time to make any extra stats positive on negative plays on this game. Interesting to see if BinCookin did his own, regarding how our defence survived. Ericsson had -3, but was because of his play of just howard letting shots to go in.

 

[Mijatovic]

I think maybe you saw 4 2on1's against in the first period right??

Ya Zidlicky was on the ice for only 1 of those.

Seemed to be Smith defending them so I assumed.

 

[Henkka]

Stats from Bruins game:

DET @ BOS 3-5

Scoring attempts:
0 -10min, 5-5
10-20min, 4-7
20-30min, 8-2 (nice to give a shortie after this dominant part on the period on own PP and lose the momemtum)
30-40min, 1-5
40-50min, 6-4
50-60min, 8-0 (Boston relly didn't try anything else than protect the lead)
Total attempts: 32-23

Pos, Player, Gls + Ass + ScA +CrA + Screen = Total
LW Abdelkader, 0+0+2+0+2 = 4
C Zetterberg, 0+0+1+6+0 = 7
RW Cole, 0+0+2+1+1 = 4
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LW Tatar, 0+1+4+0+0 = 5
C Datsyuk, 0+2+3+2+0 = 7
RW Glendening, 1+0+2+0+1 = 4
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LW Nyquist, 1+0+3+0+0 = 4
C Sheahan, 0+0+1+1+2 = 4
RW Pulkkinen, 0+0+2+0+0 = 2
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LW Weiss, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0 (two brutal PP giveaways lead to Sh goals. horrible effort, deserves to be benched with Cleary)
C Andersson, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
RW Miller, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
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LD Kronwall, 0+0+4+0+0 = 4
RD Ericsson, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
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LD DeKeyser, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0 (zero offensive plays + penalty + lost battle on the another Paille goal, not a best night from DeKeyser)
RD Quincey, 0+1+0+0+0 = 1
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LD Smith, 0+0+2+0+0 = 1
RD Zidlicky, 1+0+2+2+0 = 5 (best game from Zidlicky so far)

Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Zidlicky were best players today.

Weiss and Monster, walk home.

 

[BinCookin]

Mar 6 vs Calgary

Kronwall 2+ 1-
Ericsson 1+ 2-
Quincey 3+
Dekeyser 1+ 1-
Zidlicky 2+ 3-
Smith 2+ 1-

This was a very quiet game for our D men. The goals against were almost entirely from bad positions, and our D men played a pretty solid game overall. Goaltending hurt us on this one. (Howard)

Mar 8 vs BOS

Kronwall 4+ 1-
Ericsson 2+ 3-
Quincey 2+
Dekeyser 2+ 2-
Zidlicky 6+ 3-
Smith 3+ 2-

I hear that the GDT was a pretty negative one. I'll be honest, my eye test did NOT see this game as a fail fest (Except for Weiss) who directly caused 2 goals (I also dinged Zidlicky on one of them for a bad pass to weiss but he had enough time to fix it...)

Monster did not play well. Infact Svedberg played even worse. This game should really be something like 2-1 not 5-3. Bad goaltending on both sides.

I should note the Quincey had a near flawless game, didnt do much to stand out, but made no mistakes. Zidlicky was all over the place in this one. He was flying offensively. Many of his pluses are direct scoring chances. He had a few mistakes, but honestly, he produced more pluses vs those mistakes, and could have been involved in more than one goal for sure. Kronwall was also solid today, made some great passes. (Me and Henkka seem to agree with these 2 D men having a good night).

We lost both these last 2 games pretty handily. But both these games were winnable. Anyone blowing these losses out of proportion, are doing just that, because for the most part, I have been seeing a good game from the D men.

 

[Henkka]

Could you totals together from all the games you have counted?

 

[BinCookin]

Could you totals together from all the games you have counted?

That should be updated on the first post. Can you see my 2nd screen shot??

 

[BinCookin]

Mar 9th

Thanks to Loojay as well.. here are the combined scores.
Thanks for playing again Loojay.
Sounds like Prez wants in on the next game.

We scored several guys very similar tonight:

K 6 -2 vs 6 -3 (final score 6 -2)
E 3 -1 vs 3 -3 (final score 3 -2)
Q 2 -1 vs 2 -1 (identical ) (final 2 -1)
DK 4 -3 vs 5 -4 (final 5 -4)
Its the last 2 we have different BUT same in theory (Zidlicky good night, smith pluses match minuses)
Z 4 0 vs 7 -4 (final 6 -2)
S 2 -1 vs 5 -5 (final 3 -3)


Zidlicky and Kronwall had a great offensive game. Was very apparent.
Really like the offense Zidlicky is bringing in.

P.S. can people see the attached files I am putting in the original post (which I updated)? Just want to double check.

 

[Henkka]

P.S. can people see the attached files I am putting in the original post (which I updated)? Just want to double check.

Yes, those will work. Looks like Smith is still the worst minus hoarder even though he will produce lots of plus plays. But he shouldn't be that mistake prone with his easy 3rd pair competition.

So far, our best possible TOP6 based on those stats should be Kronwall, Ericsson, DeKeyser, Quincey, Zidlicky and Marchenko.

 

[BinCookin]

Yes, those will work. Looks like Smith is still the worst minus hoarder even though he will produce lots of plus plays. But he shouldn't be that mistake prone with his easy 3rd pair competition.

So far, our best possible TOP6 based on those stats should be Kronwall, Ericsson, DeKeyser, Quincey, Zidlicky and Marchenko.

Pretty much yup.

Smith is making the most mistakes per game. He evens them out with good plays too but still everyone else is decidedly more positive.

I have been quite amazed at the lack of mistakes being made by Quincey over the 9 games i have been keeping stats on him. He easily makes the fewest mistakes per 60 min.

It is also clear that Kronwall is our Best D man. Close to most Good plays, and close to Least Bad Plays.

Ericsson DDK Marchenko are all playing about equally. Which is positive but in comparison they are still mixing in a good number of poor games every now and then.

Zidlicky is providing alot of good offensive plays every game. He has had some mistakes, but not nearly as many as some people have been implying in some of the GDT's. Example : "Zidlicky was on for all 4 2-1 odd man rushes last game"... Um no, he was on for 1 only

Overall been very happy with the addition of Zidlicky.
Marchenko's numbers are nice. It is nice to know we do not HAVE to sign a FA D men if we cant get the top guy. We shouldn't be settling for mediocre, because our young guys could be better than others around the league may think.

 

[Henkka]

Scoring attempts from Oilers game:

DET vs. EDM 5-2

0 -10min, 2-8
10-20min, 6-2
20-30min, 4-2
30-40min, 7-1
40-50min, 3-6
50-60min, 6-3

Scoring attempt totals 29-22.
ES attempts: 26-12
PP attempts: 3-9
PK attempts: 0-1

3-2 was kind of realistic result, it's pretty much that when you take those 2 empty-netters away. Oilers kind of sucked on even strength.


Pos, Player, Gls + Ass + ScA +CrA + Screen = Total
LW Abdelkader, 1+0+3+2+1 = 7
C Zetterberg, 0+3+3+4+0 = 10
RW Cole, 0+1+1+2+0 = 4
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LW Tatar, 0+0+5+2+1 = 8
C Datsyuk, 1+1+3+1+0 = 6
RW Glendening, 0+0+0+2+1 = 3
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LW Nyquist, 0+1+0+3+0 = 4
C Sheahan, 1+1+2+3+0 = 7
RW Pulkkinen, 1+1+1+1+0 = 4
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LW Jurco, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
C Andersson, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
RW Miller, 0+0+1+1+0 = 2
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LD Kronwall, 1+0+0+0+0 = 1
RD Ericsson, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
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LD DeKeyser, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
RD Quincey, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
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LD Smith, 0+0+2+0+0 = 2
RD Zidlicky, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1

Zetterberg by far the best Red Wing today. Glendening kind of disappeared on Datsyuk's line.

 

[Henkka]

Totals from last 4 games:

Goals, assists, Sc attempts, Created attempts, Screens = Total

Zetterberg, 0+7+7+15+1 = 30 (7.5 per game)
Datsyuk, 1+4+10+11+0 = 26 (6.5 per game)
Abdelkader, 4+0+7+4+7 = 22 (5.5 per game)
Tatar, 0+1+16+4+1 = 22 (5.5 per game)
Nyquist, 1+1+8+6+1 = 17 (4.25 game)
Sheahan, 1+1+5+7+2 = 16 (4.0 per game)
Cole, 0+3+8+3+1 = 15 (3.75 per game)
Pulkkinen, 1+1+3+1+0 = 6 (3.0 per game)
Jurco, 0+0+4+0+3 = 7 (2.33 per game)
Glendening, 1+0+2+3+2 = 8 (2.0 per game)
Weiss, 0+0+3+0+1 = 4 (1.33 per game)
Miller, 0+0+2+1+1 = 4 (1.0 per game)
Andersson, 0+0+4+0+0 = 4 (1.00 per game)

Zidlicky, 2+0+4+3+0 = 9 (2.25 per game)
Kronwall, 1+0+6+1+0 = 8 (2.0 per game)
Smith, 0+0+7+0+0 = 7 (1.75 per game)
Ericsson, 0+1+3+2+0 = 6 (1.5 per game)
Dekeyser, 0+0+2+3+0 = 5 (1.25 per game)
Quincey, 0+1+1+2+0 = 4 (1.0 per game)

These are only good offensive plays, any "negative" or defensive plusses aren't counted in these totals.

50% of our scoring attempts in last 4 games are created by Zetterberg or Datsyuk. They have combined 37 (11 assists + 26 created attempts), of total 73 assists + created attempts.

 

[BinCookin]

Totals from last 4 games:

Goals, assists, Sc attempts, Created attempts, Screens = Total

Zetterberg, 0+7+7+15+1 = 30 (7.5 per game)
Datsyuk, 1+4+10+11+0 = 26 (6.5 per game)
Abdelkader, 4+0+7+4+7 = 22 (5.5 per game)
Tatar, 0+1+16+4+1 = 22 (5.5 per game)
Nyquist, 1+1+8+6+1 = 17 (4.25 game)
Sheahan, 1+1+5+7+2 = 16 (4.0 per game)
Cole, 0+3+8+3+1 = 15 (3.75 per game)
Pulkkinen, 1+1+3+1+0 = 6 (3.0 per game)
Jurco, 0+0+4+0+3 = 7 (2.33 per game)
Glendening, 1+0+2+3+2 = 8 (2.0 per game)
Weiss, 0+0+3+0+1 = 4 (1.33 per game)
Miller, 0+0+2+1+1 = 4 (1.0 per game)
Andersson, 0+0+4+0+0 = 4 (1.00 per game)

Zidlicky, 2+0+4+3+0 = 9 (2.25 per game)
Kronwall, 1+0+6+1+0 = 8 (2.0 per game)
Smith, 0+0+7+0+0 = 7 (1.75 per game)
Ericsson, 0+1+3+2+0 = 6 (1.5 per game)
Dekeyser, 0+0+2+3+0 = 5 (1.25 per game)
Quincey, 0+1+1+2+0 = 4 (1.0 per game)

These are only good offensive plays, any "negative" or defensive plusses aren't counted in these totals.

50% of our scoring attempts in last 4 games are created by Zetterberg or Datsyuk. They have combined 37 (11 assists + 26 created attempts), of total 73 assists + created attempts.

I think these stats combined with mine show a few details.

Quincey is like the new stuart. Safe safe, no offense, but most solid D man for defensive play.

Z+D still drive our whole bus. But its nice to see Nyq Tatar Sheahan Cole driving the 2ndary scoring. And the big surprise position (Abdelkader). He has improved a massive amount over the last 2 years. Blackhole to 2nd liner. Thats amazing really.

 

[BinCookin]

My SBDSS of Det vs Clb

K 3 -1
E 1 -3
Q 3 0
D 1 -3
Z 2 -5
S 4 -1

Combined with Loojay:

K 3 -1 vs 8 -1 (Avg score 5 -1)
E 1 -3 vs 2 -7 (Avg score 1 -5)
Q 3 0 vs 5 -2 (Avg score 4 -1)
D 1 -3 vs 2 -4 (Avg score 2 -4)
Z 2 -5 vs 5 -6 (Avg score 3 -5)
S 4 -1 vs 9 -4 (Avg score 6 -2)

Overall me and loojay saw the game the same way:

Kronwall Good; Quincey Good; Smith Good (lots of offense from him tonight)
Also Zidlicky Bad, Dekeyser Bad, Ericsson (really bad)

According to GDT praise towards Quincey and Smith adds up with our scores. Again, whoever else wants to keep these scores will only make them more accurate. Thanks again Loojay.

P.S. if we look at +/- Total per game played

Our best D men are ordered like this:

1) Kronwall
2) Quincey
3) Zidlicky
4) DDK
5) Ericsson
6) Smith

It should be noted how well Quincey is playing. It should also be noted that DDK is not standing out vs the others. So we might want to readjust our fanboy Dmen and whipping boy Dmen

I would actually adjust to these lines:

Kronwall-Quincey
DDK-Ericsson
Smith-Zidlicky

 

[BinCookin]

SBDSS Averaged scores over the last 2 games

Vs PHI

K 5 -5
E 3 -3
D 3 -7
Q 4 -2
S 2 -5
Z 3 -2

vs Pit

K 3 -1
E 4 -1
Q 3 -3
D 3 -1 (Was very quiet and safe today after just sucking hard vs Phi)
S 4 -2
Z 8 0 (Zidlicky with a monster of a game, and no visible mistakes to speak of).

 

[Henkka]

Scoring attempt data from Columbus and Pittsburgh games. I did miss Flyers game on saturday, don't have data from that.

DET vs. CBJ 1-3

0 -10min, 8-4
10-20min, 4-4
20-30min, 4-3
30-40min, 1-5
40-50min, 4-1
50-60min, 4-1

Total attempts: 25-18

Pos, player, goals, assists, scoring attempt, created attempt, screened attempt
LW Abdelkader, 1+0+2+2+4 = 9
C Zetterberg, 0+0+5+5+0 = 10 (Best Red Wing of the game)
RW Cole, 0+0+0+1+1 = 2
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LW Tatar, 0+0+4+1+0 = 5
C Datsyuk, 0+0+2+4+0 = 6
RW Glendening, 0+0+0+0+1 = 1 (Glendening really sucked on this Top6 grinder role)
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LW Nyquist, 0+1+1+1+0 = 3
C Sheahan, 0+0+2+1+1 = 4
RW Pulkkinen, 0+0+3+0+0 = 3
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LW Jurco, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
C Andersson, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
RW Miller, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0

This was horrible game from the 4th line. Zero scoring chances, 2 goals against and Miller also took a penalty and make a mistake on the penllty kill. Worst game of the season from him.

LD Kronwall, 0+0+3+1+0 = 4
RD Ericsson, 0+0+0+0+0 = o (also bad game from Ericsson, no positively offensive plays, but 2 horrible mistakes)
LD DeKeyser, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
RD Quincey, 0+0+1+0+0 = 1
LD Smith, 0+0+2+1+0 = 3 (Good game offensively from Smith)
RD Zidlicky, 0+1+0+0+0 = 1

 

[Henkka]

Against Pittsburgh:

DET @ PIT 5-1

0 -10min, 3-3
10-20min, 4-0
20-30min, 5-4
30-40min, 4-7 (Penguins really started getting chances after our 4-0 goal at 28 minute mark...)
40-50min, 1-5
50-60min, 1-4 (in last period we didn't even try any offense, just kill the time away and took 2 points)

Total attempts: 18-23

Pos, player, goals, assists, scoring attempt, created attempt, screened attempt
LW Abdelkader, 0+0+2+0+0 = 2 (weak game from Abdelkader compared to his latest ones)
C Zetterberg, 1+1+1+2+0 = 5 (strongest Red Wing forward again)
RW Nyquist, 0+1+0+1+0 = 2 (that old chemistry with Z and AK did look better than my collected data)
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LW Tatar, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0 (worst game of the season from Tatar?)
C Datsyuk, 0+1+2+1+0 = 4
RW Cole, 0+0+1+0+2 = 3 (now that net-front Cole was there, and I did like it)
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LW Jurco, 0+0+1+1+0 = 2
C Sheahan, 1+1+2+0+0 = 4
RW Pulkkinen, 1+1+1+0+1 = 4 (Pulkkinen only screen on this line, funny)
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LW Andersson, 0+0+0+1+0 = 0
C Glendening, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
RW Miller, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0

Silent from the 4th again.

LD Kronwall, 0+1+1+1+0 = 3
RD Ericsson, 0+0+0+1+0 = 1
LD DeKeyser, 0+1+0+0+0 = 1
RD Quincey, 0+0+0+0+0 = 0
LD Smith, 0+1+0+0+0 = 0
RD Zidlicky, 1+2+2+1+0 = 6

Superb game from Zidlicky. Best player today with Mrazek.