Sarnia Sting 2024 25 Season Thread Part Iii

[stinger94]

I have to say, I am pretty disheartened that all signs seem to be pointing to Letang returning. Not sure I'll be supporting the team in-person until he's gone (I say this now but who knows lol).


It was incredibly frustrating watching him completely emotionless on the bench when one of his players would take a headshot, an awful penalty was called against them, or he failed to compose his team after letting a few in a row in. I know there is SO much more to coaching than bench reactions (and clearly it just isn't his style), but I truly think he is terrible at game management. Who knows, maybe players love him and there's a lot more to it.

Excited for the potential the draft offers either way.

 

[StingUpdates]

I have to say, I am pretty disheartened that all signs seem to be pointing to Letang returning. Not sure I'll be supporting the team in-person until he's gone (I say this now but who knows lol).


It was incredibly frustrating watching him completely emotionless on the bench when one of his players would take a headshot, an awful penalty was called against them, or he failed to compose his team after letting a few in a row in. I know there is SO much more to coaching than bench reactions (and clearly it just isn't his style), but I truly think he is terrible at game management. Who knows, maybe players love him and there's a lot more to it.

Excited for the potential the draft offers either way.

Hopefully whenever the ownership changes or addition happens maybe something happens, but signs point to him returning which is disappointing.

If for no other reason it was a disappointing, failure of a season. That should fall on either the HC or the GM & I feel more of the blame should be on the HC this season.

 

[StingUpdates]

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Really can't go wrong at the top. Still hearing Delisle's name linked to us but that could change/he could go T3.

Henderson doesn't seem like he'll last to 26/42. So that might not happen. But if Reznik goes before our pick & Henderson doesn't maybe we take him.

 

[stinger94]

Really can't go wrong at the top. Still hearing Delisle's name linked to us but that could change/he could go T3.

Henderson doesn't seem like he'll last to 26/42. So that might not happen. But if Reznik goes before our pick & Henderson doesn't maybe we take him.

I really want to nab Wycisk. Idk why but I always like taking SW ontario players lol, I feel like it is somehow safer. I know there's the NCAA risk but I think that risk will exist now with pretty much any of the top talent.

 

[robp1219]

I really want to nab Wycisk. Idk why but I always like taking SW ontario players lol, I feel like it is somehow safer. I know there's the NCAA risk but I think that risk will exist now with pretty much any of the top talent.

Ya I’d imagine Wysick and Delisle will be the top two guys the sting are looking at. Both have solid size. Wysick abit more skilled, Delisle abit more physical. Both two way players. That can be playmakers.

 

[StingUpdates]

Pretty wild after acquiring Martone MacDonell Van Volsen & others 2 years ago Brampton goes out round 1 back to back years. So many marked them down as a future conference winner, title challenger after getting those guys.

Makes me feel a bit better about the trades, especially if Martone makes the jump in October, although my confidence level in that has dipped watching him since Christmas on.

 

[StingUpdates]

Ya I’d imagine Wysick and Delisle will be the top two guys the sting are looking at. Both have solid size. Wysick abit more skilled, Delisle abit more physical. Both two way players. That can be playmakers.

I know I mentioned Delisle, but do not sleep on them reaching on Lammens. He's a name that keeps popping up when I talk to people. Reeks of Letang.

Edit: in draft thread ohl4life now mentions Lammens at 4.

 

[robp1219]

Pretty wild after acquiring Martone MacDonell Van Volsen & others 2 years ago Brampton goes out round 1 back to back years. So many marked them down as a future conference winner, title challenger after getting those guys.

Makes me feel a bit better about the trades, especially if Martone makes the jump in October, although my confidence level in that has dipped watching him since Christmas on.

I think they had a real bad coaching problems, and ivankovic under performed all year, they should have went out and got a better back up or starter rather than Gillespie. Needed a 1A/1B option goalie. Should of changed coaching too.

 

[Jason M]

Sting have made trades with the Pete's, North Bay and Kingston to aquire picks. Still don't know what those picks are at this point.

 

[Jason M]

The Sting aquire a 7th in 27 (SAR) and a 15th in 27 (KGN). From KGN in exchange for an 8th in 25 (KIT) and a 15th in 25 (SAR). Sting also aquire a 6th in 25 (KIT) and a 15th in 25 (WSR). From North Bay in exchange for a 6th in 27 (SAR) and a 7th in 28 (SAR)

Still don't know the picks with the Petes.

Sting aquire a 3rd (ER) in 25 and a 10th (PTB) in 28. In exchange for a 3rd (SAR) in 27 and a 8th (SAR) in 26 and a con 15th (SAR) in 27.

 

[SarniaStingFan]

The Sting aquire a 7th in 27 (SAR) and a 15th in 27 (KGN). From KGN in exchange for an 8th in 25 (KIT) and a 15th in 25 (SAR). Sting also aquire a 6th in 25 (KIT) and a 15th in 25 (WSR). From North Bay in exchange for a 6th in 27 (SAR) and a 7th in 28 (SAR)

Still don't know the picks with the Petes.

Sting get a 3rd in '25 (ER) and 10th in '28 (PBO) for 3rd in '27 (SAR), 8th in '26 (SAR), and cond. 15th in '27 (SAR)

 

[Jason M]

Sting now have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds. And 7 picks in the first 5 rounds.

 

[Jason M]

Sting get a 3rd in '25 (ER) and 10th in '28 (PBO) for 3rd in '27 (SAR), 8th in '26 (SAR), and cond. 15th in '27 (SAR)

That's what I said.

 

[SarniaStingFan]

That's what I said.

Sorry, your post wasn't updated when I posted that

 

[StingUpdates]

What those trades tell me is Sarnia likes this draft a lot. Adding a 3rd, 6th, 15th this year for picks in future years.

Gives them

Round 1 - #4
Round 2 - #26 & #42
Round 3 - #54
Round 4 - #69
Round 5 - #101 & #102
Round 6 - #111

 

[SarniaStingFan]

What those trades tell me is Sarnia likes this draft a lot. Adding a 3rd, 6th, 15th this year for picks in future years.

Gives them

Round 1 - #4
Round 2 - #26 & #42
Round 3 - #54
Round 4 - #69
Round 5 - #101 & #102
Round 6 - #111

I like these moves. They saw what Di Iorio & Edwards did in their rookie seasons and intend on building around them now instead of waiting around

 

[StingUpdates]

I like these moves. They saw what Di Iorio & Edwards did in their rookie seasons and intend on building around them now instead of waiting around

It's how you can have sustained good teams right. This team (25-26) hopefully is a solid team competing for home ice. 26-27 we are hoping it's a team fighting to compete for a title. If you draft well this weekend then you have another wave coming lead by Di Iorio, Edwards & the kids you take Friday, Saturday for the 27-28 season.

Gotta draft well though!

I do wonder if stocking up on picks leads us to take an extra American or two higher than usual. Also definitely see us taking a goalie in RD2 or 3.

Sting haven't had this many top 5rd picks in so long. excited for the weekend!

 

[SarniaStingFan]

It's how you can have sustained good teams right. This team (25-26) hopefully is a solid team competing for home ice. 26-27 we are hoping it's a team fighting to compete for a title. If you draft well this weekend then you have another wave coming lead by Di Iorio, Edwards & the kids you take Friday, Saturday for the 27-28 season.

Gotta draft well though!

I do wonder if stocking up on picks leads us to take an extra American or two higher than usual. Also definitely see us taking a goalie in RD2 or 3.

Sting haven't had this many top 5rd picks in so long. excited for the weekend!

I looked back and the last time we had this many picks in the first five rounds was 2017. I'm hoping we take a swing or two on an American with Legwand's connections and our proximity to the border

 

[StingUpdates]

I looked back and the last time we had this many picks in the first five rounds was 2017. I'm hoping we take a swing or two on an American with Legwand's connections and our proximity to the border

Every draft is big, but this is a huge one for Seca & co. This team is pretty brutal at stringing together good drafts..

2014 they do a great job getting - Chychrun, Kyrou, Sproviero, Fulcher, Eliot.

follow that up in 2015 taking Chmelevski (who they traded), McGregor (great pick!), Aidan Hughes (mega oof), Quinn Hughes (oh what could've been lol), Hatcher. So got 1F &1D if impact that stayed with the team a year post draft.

Even worse in 2016 they waste a 1st on Weiss, don't get compensation pick, no 2nd, take Hinz (good pick) RD3 who they then trade a yr later, RD4 they waste a pick on Samuelsson. just a brutal draft. maybe the worst they've ever had.

They did a great job in 2017 & 2018, unfortunately covid sorta screwed that up.

2019 is a mixed bag. Gaudreau was fine, but looking back worth 7th overall? I'd say no. O'Donell was a bust round 2. Did great RD4 with Dann & Voit. Got Mast RD9 which was phenomenal.

So they have some steam after '19 draft then the 2020 class absolutely stunk. Namestnikov 3rd OVR didnt pan out, Morden RD2 didnt come, McIntyre didnt pan out, Casey never came. Filak in the 9th only kid that stayed throughout & was apart of 2023 run.

2021 also fell flat but I do cut slack with scouting being hard with covid. MacDonell was a fine 1st, but traded. Lalkin, bust. Daviault traded. Perreault never came. Wainwright only kid who was apart of 2023 run..

2022 started promising but long term hasn't provided anything outside Fischer. Traded Martone, Doherty, Campbell our top 3 picks. mid round picks didnt pan out/come. Big reason why they have been so bad last 2 seasons.

2023 started hot & it still looks ok with Brown, Hurt, Beamish + If they sign Kosiba, Jette or Quinlan. But Barr is certainly no lock 2 years post being RD2 & Sim was cut after 1 season as a 3rd round pick. two premium picks potentially wasted.

Obviously '24 is headlined by the 2 elite rooks who look like cornerstone pieces. Great start, but gotta hope another 3-4 kids develop well.

Leads to this draft where they have stockpiled picks. Gotta make the right pick @ 4 (sounds like Lammens so already a bit uneasy about it) & for the love of god they need to hit on those two 2nd round picks... Windsor got Hicks & Lemuix RD2 last yr. Both stepped in immediately & looked great. About time this team actually did something in such an important round.

To me & I know way easier said than done lol, Sarnia needs to exit this draft with a game changer at 4, a kid they hope is a future top pairing Dman (or close to it) in RD2, a goalie of the future with legit upside in 2 or 3. I also think a point producing Dman is needed in the pipeline. After that need kids with some size, some nastiness.

I know they wont get all that more than likely, but they do most of that & they got something cooking. Screw it up & there will be no supporting cast for #17 & #81 when they are 19.

 

[StingUpdates]

Spent a few hours watching Lammens games, highlights & reading reports on him. Really do have mixed feelings about him being our pick at 4 if some of the rumours are true..

I can guarantee he will be a fan favourite one day & that he'll also be one of if not my favourite player at 17, 18, 19 lol

Easiest way to put it is he's said he models his game after Matt Tkachuk & he aint lying even a little bit. He's an absolute shit disturber. one report I read said "Lammens is the most violent player in the draft." another report said "Every team wants a player like Lammens."

He's big (6'1" & growing), he's got good skating, he's got solid skills, his passing really stood out to me in the games I watched. His shot is solid. Relentless motor & obviously very physical & always willing to go to the dirty areas. He played on a far less skilled team than Murata, Warren, Wycisk & had to do more on his own & still showed out even vs some of the top teams including I guess in a series vs JRC (warren)

Where my uncertainty comes is I am not sure I see game changing talent. When I watch Warren, Murata who most say will be available at 4 I see kids who more than likely will be big time PT producers in the OHL. Potential 100PT upside.

With Lammens I am not sure I see that. I see a Will Cuylle type player. He went top 5. Big power forward with snarl. Was a good player for Windsor with back to back 40PT years at 16/17, missed 18 for covid then at 19 with Wyatt Johnston as his C he had 80 points.

One would argue WSR won the west with Cuylle on L1 as their captain & that's totally fair. Cuylle became a great player. Maybe Edwards/Di Iorio don't become Wyatt Johnston level, but we hope they become top of the line OHLers so maybe they could form a similar type chemistry to maximize Lammens offensive upside. Maybe im underselling the kid & had he been on DMF/JRC etc he'd of lit it up like Murata, Warren etc.

I like him. I know this makes it seem like I don't. I'm a sucker for the pesty, agitating players with skill like Tkachuk, Bennet, Marchand etc, I'm just unsure about passing up a potential game changing/huge upside player at 4 like Warren or Murata for a power forward who most have going in the 6-10 range.

I know you also cant have a bunch of skill guys & neglect players like Lammens, but picking this high I'd much rather go for the higher upside, more likely to become a star selection.

Still a rumour at this point & I wont be totally pissed at it because he is a good player who fans will absolutely love, but it seems to be getting some steam behind it & the draft is only 3 days away now.

 

[HkyBeegs3]

Every draft is big, but this is a huge one for Seca & co. This team is pretty brutal at stringing together good drafts..

2014 they do a great job getting - Chychrun, Kyrou, Sproviero, Fulcher, Eliot.

follow that up in 2015 taking Chmelevski (who they traded), McGregor (great pick!), Aidan Hughes (mega oof), Quinn Hughes (oh what could've been lol), Hatcher. So got 1F &1D if impact that stayed with the team a year post draft.

Even worse in 2016 they waste a 1st on Weiss, don't get compensation pick, no 2nd, take Hinz (good pick) RD3 who they then trade a yr later, RD4 they waste a pick on Samuelsson. just a brutal draft. maybe the worst they've ever had.

They did a great job in 2017 & 2018, unfortunately covid sorta screwed that up.

2019 is a mixed bag. Gaudreau was fine, but looking back worth 7th overall? I'd say no. O'Donell was a bust round 2. Did great RD4 with Dann & Voit. Got Mast RD9 which was phenomenal.

So they have some steam after '19 draft then the 2020 class absolutely stunk. Namestnikov 3rd OVR didnt pan out, Morden RD2 didnt come, McIntyre didnt pan out, Casey never came. Filak in the 9th only kid that stayed throughout & was apart of 2023 run.

2021 also fell flat but I do cut slack with scouting being hard with covid. MacDonell was a fine 1st, but traded. Lalkin, bust. Daviault traded. Perreault never came. Wainwright only kid who was apart of 2023 run..

2022 started promising but long term hasn't provided anything outside Fischer. Traded Martone, Doherty, Campbell our top 3 picks. mid round picks didnt pan out/come. Big reason why they have been so bad last 2 seasons.

2023 started hot & it still looks ok with Brown, Hurt, Beamish + If they sign Kosiba, Jette or Quinlan. But Barr is certainly no lock 2 years post being RD2 & Sim was cut after 1 season as a 3rd round pick. two premium picks potentially wasted.

Obviously '24 is headlined by the 2 elite rooks who look like cornerstone pieces. Great start, but gotta hope another 3-4 kids develop well.

Leads to this draft where they have stockpiled picks. Gotta make the right pick @ 4 (sounds like Lammens so already a bit uneasy about it) & for the love of god they need to hit on those two 2nd round picks... Windsor got Hicks & Lemuix RD2 last yr. Both stepped in immediately & looked great. About time this team actually did something in such an important round.

To me & I know way easier said than done lol, Sarnia needs to exit this draft with a game changer at 4, a kid they hope is a future top pairing Dman (or close to it) in RD2, a goalie of the future with legit upside in 2 or 3. I also think a point producing Dman is needed in the pipeline. After that need kids with some size, some nastiness.

I know they wont get all that more than likely, but they do most of that & they got something cooking. Screw it up & there will be no supporting cast for #17 & #81 when they are 19.

From 2019-2024 who was in charge of drafting? was it seca?

 

[robp1219]

I like these moves. They saw what Di Iorio & Edwards did in their rookie seasons and intend on building around them now instead of waiting around

It shows 26/27 is the go for it year, I can really see them selling off Fischer and possibly young wainwright next year to add picks so they can use those picks to bring in guys the year after, and if they do that they will be able to trade picks to use to bolster their roster without ruining their future because they will still have picks in the future. If they don’t trade those guys for picks and use their picks to bolster their roster the following year their cupboards will be empty just like when they brought in konecny. Sometimes you have to get rid of something good to get something better even though it’s hard. Obviously this depends on if sarnia is a surprise true contender next year but I think we can assume they will be a 4/5 team in the west.

 

[robp1219]

Heading into the draft on Friday, my top guy I’d want would be Wysick, and stingupdates Delisle has grown on me, speed, solid skill (not as much as Wysick) and physical. Both guys are solid size now and will both probably get a bit bigger as most do. My third guy would be Barch I think he will come and he is fast, really skilled and a shit disturber, I think he will get bigger due to his dad being 6’2 220 when he played I’d imagine his son will get to atleast 6’0 180, probably bigger. All three are play makers but all three have good shots as well. Let’s see what the sting have in store for us, definitely need to hit on atleast 3 of these picks in the first 5 rounds, and take a few US players they think will come over! Get it done Seca! Go sting!

 

[OHL4Life]

i dont think your getting reznik in the 2nd anymore @StingUpdates

 

[DCruickshank]

Delisle to OS at 5.....