Sarnia Sting 2024 25 Season Thread Part Iii

Good thing for the Sting if they do indeed wanna take a G at 26 the teams in front of them really don't need to take one.

21. Windsor - have multiple young G's
22. Kitchener - have Young promising G
23. London - have Medvedev
24. Kitchener again.
25. Guelph - had 2 rookie Gs this season.
26. Sarnia.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jason M
Not getting better with letang leading this ship.
Can't see Fischer staying around past Dec.we need to think ahead with this and grab 3 solid OAs including 1 top D with young.
Draft is going to set us up for 2 years from now when it's a Go for it year hopefully we get 3 Quality OAs to drive this year unlike the previous last 2
 
The question I have for you all is, will you continue to support this team with Letang as Head Coach?
Do you think he can become a better coach if he stays on next season?
 
The question I have for you all is, will you continue to support this team with Letang as Head Coach?
Do you think he can become a better coach if he stays on next season?
It’s going to be hard, but his roster “should” be a lot better and he will probably only have 2 or 3 first year players on the roster, and won’t have any untalented forward vets on the roster to overplay. He will only have players with talent he can play, so hopefully that hides his lack of coaching ability. I still think he will find away to make himself look bad consistently. I’d definitely get rid of him, but I think he will be on an extremely short leash due to his past and because he’s on the final year of his contract. Could be let go after the first month or two if he doesn’t get results.
 
The question I have for you all is, will you continue to support this team with Letang as Head Coach?
Do you think he can become a better coach if he stays on next season?
Sadly somewhere along the line in my life I decided I was gonna become a diehard Sting, OHL fan lol. Even the awful years like the least two I sit thru every boring, miserable game holding out hope that 0.01% it's Sarnia one day playing for the trophy & winning it.

I'd probably have to be "wronged" by the team in someway or move away from Sarnia to stop being such a diehard. The absolute suckage & never ending disappointment seemingly isn't enough to turn me away lol.

With Letang im first hoping if Guy comes in maybe he brings in his own ppl, if not im hoping he has an incredibly short leash to start next season & if not that then I guess ill hope maybe he does some self reflection this summer (doubtful) or maybe bringing in a new ASST coach like Barch helps him.
 
The question I have for you all is, will you continue to support this team with Letang as Head Coach?
Do you think he can become a better coach if he stays on next season?
Letang would need to completely overhaul his coaching style and I don't see that happening. I can almost guarantee the team will come out flat next year and will probably hover around .500
 
Yep the team will under perform until Christmas and the management will say “maybe the fans are right about this coach, he really can’t coach no matter what roster we give him.” Then they will want to get rid of him but won’t have a good replacement because it’s mid season, so they will hold on to him until the offseason and let his contract expire and it will be another waste of a season and more good young players hopes of getting drafted or playing in the NHL gone.
 
  • Like
Reactions: howler2
No if they don't fire Letang I think I move on. Doesnt make sense the development has been terrible especially the D
 
Man this used to be a nice place to check out news…

There’s like 3-4 of you guys… if you are grown men with nothing better to do than to just post incessantly about how much you hate letang, boy am I sad for you

If you’re Russian bots I applaud you

For real… some of you are now imagining the team doing poorly next year and management acknowledging the “fans were right” and firing letang… you’re daydreaming about letang… it’s wildly sad

Personally I’d like to see matsos take over

But good grief, move on, talk about the draft, prospects anything… you’ve made your position on letang clear

Yea yea it’s a message forum you can do whatever you want just like, look in the mirror and see how obsessed you are with this… you’d rather hate letang than like anything about the team
 
  • Haha
Reactions: howler2
Man this used to be a nice place to check out news…

There’s like 3-4 of you guys… if you are grown men with nothing better to do than to just post incessantly about how much you hate letang, boy am I sad for you

If you’re Russian bots I applaud you

For real… some of you are now imagining the team doing poorly next year and management acknowledging the “fans were right” and firing letang… you’re daydreaming about letang… it’s wildly sad

Personally I’d like to see matsos take over

But good grief, move on, talk about the draft, prospects anything… you’ve made your position on letang clear

Yea yea it’s a message forum you can do whatever you want just like, look in the mirror and see how obsessed you are with this… you’d rather hate letang than like anything about the team
You're cherry picking ... there are many comments about the draft, prospects and the future of the team. The coach has every right to be discussed... Letang has only been a hot button issue for the last few months and rightfully so... We just call it like we see it....You scroll back for 2 pages and think you've got it figured out. There are only 3-4 of us who comment because the team has lost support on here mostly because of coaching/management...No one is obsessed with Letang.... it's actually the opposite... no one wants to speak about him again but he's the coach... again... there are many many posts about other things than Letang but you choose what you wanna see... I know there's always the guy who pulls the 'grown man' and the 'I feel sad' cards ... maybe engage more in the conversations throughout the season rather than scrolling back for a page to get the whole picture.... Everyone has commented numerous times about how much we like the set up of the team going forward.. except for the coach lol. This page is incredibly positive most the time..I mean the entire history not just the last 2 pages... when they play good, they get credit. When The sting played better mid-way Letang got credit. The coach will always be a hot-button issue... in any sport at any level. It's crazy a guy with 20 comments wants to dictate what people talk about... This is a great place to get news.... many headlines were broke in here first... from last years draft/ coaching changes/ ownership changes/ line combos/ injuries / prospects / rumours ect.
 
Last edited:
You're cherry picking ... there are many comments about the draft, prospects and the future of the team. The coach has every right to be discussed... Letang has only been a hot button issue for the last few months and rightfully so... We just call it like we see it....You scroll back for 2 pages and think you've got it figured out. There are only 3-4 of us who comment because the team has lost support on here mostly because of coaching/management...No one is obsessed with Letang.... it's actually the opposite... no one wants to speak about him again but he's the coach... again... there are many many posts about other things than Letang but you choose what you wanna see... I know there's always the guy who pulls the 'grown man' and the 'I feel sad' cards ... maybe engage more in the conversations throughout the season rather than scrolling back for a page to get the whole picture.... Everyone has commented numerous times about how much we like the set up of the team going forward.. except for the coach lol. This page is incredibly positive most the time... when they play good, they get credit. When The sting played better mid-way Letang got credit. The coach will always be a hot-button issue... in any sport at any level. It's crazy a guy with 20 comments wants to dictate what people talk

You're cherry picking ... there are many comments about the draft, prospects and the future of the team. The coach has every right to be discussed... Letang has only been a hot button issue for the last few months and rightfully so... We just call it like we see it....You scroll back for 2 pages and think you've got it figured out. There are only 3-4 of us who comment because the team has lost support on here mostly because of coaching/management...No one is obsessed with Letang.... it's actually the opposite... no one wants to speak about him again but he's the coach... again... there are many many posts about other things than Letang but you choose what you wanna see... I know there's always the guy who pulls the 'grown man' and the 'I feel sad' cards ... maybe engage more in the conversations throughout the season rather than scrolling back for a page to get the whole picture.... Everyone has commented numerous times about how much we like the set up of the team going forward.. except for the coach lol. This page is incredibly positive most the time..I mean the entire history not just the last 2 pages... when they play good, they get credit. When The sting played better mid-way Letang got credit. The coach will always be a hot-button issue... in any sport at any level. It's crazy a guy with 20 comments wants to dictate what people talk about.

Been following this thread close for 5 years or so, (before that we barely got one full thread per season) there is often great info, hence why I love it - I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t think there’s 3-4 of you who aren’t obsessed with letang - not sure what possessed me to login today to rant about it - I won’t derail anymore
 
  • Like
Reactions: howler2
Been following this thread close for 5 years or so, (before that we barely got one full thread per season) there is often great info, hence why I love it - I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t think there’s 3-4 of you who aren’t obsessed with letang - not sure what possessed me to login today to rant about it - I won’t derail anymore
So those of us who have said all year that we love Beckham Edwards are obsessed with him? Do what you want man we'd love to hear your opinion more often. It's good to hear other opinion but leave the insults somewhere else.
 
Meant it as “calling out” there’s a guy here, his last 10 posts, 9 are letang, another 13/20

I’d want someone to call me out if I were doing that.

RE edwards - Heaping praise on a great player is far more palatable, but I get your point, I’m only getting annoyed at the negative
 
Meant it as “calling out” there’s a guy here, his last 10 posts, 9 are letang, another 13/20

I’d want someone to call me out if I were doing that.

RE edwards - Heaping praise on a great player is far more palatable, but I get your point, I’m only getting annoyed at the negative
lol there's no doubt one of them is me... perhaps I have gone a bit over board on the Letang hate but man I really don't like him as a coach. I get your point tho too. It's all good to get a friendly reminder every now and then. No hard feelings at all and I meant what I said before about commenting more. I love hearing from others and getting different points of view ... I know others in here feel the same way because many regulars have vanished over the last 2 seasons and the debates/discussions have run a bit dry.... lol I just took that comment personally but it's all good ! Just frustration is all because imo this team could be playing SAG right now and look what Erie is doing to them or at worst playing Kitchener/ WSR and possible win a game or 2. Soo is currently in ot with WSR and who knows that series could be 2-2 soon who knows.
 
Last edited:
Meant it as “calling out” there’s a guy here, his last 10 posts, 9 are letang, another 13/20

I’d want someone to call me out if I were doing that.

RE edwards - Heaping praise on a great player is far more palatable, but I get your point, I’m only getting annoyed at the negative
Hope it’s not me
 
Man this used to be a nice place to check out news…

There’s like 3-4 of you guys… if you are grown men with nothing better to do than to just post incessantly about how much you hate letang, boy am I sad for you

If you’re Russian bots I applaud you

For real… some of you are now imagining the team doing poorly next year and management acknowledging the “fans were right” and firing letang… you’re daydreaming about letang… it’s wildly sad

Personally I’d like to see matsos take over

But good grief, move on, talk about the draft, prospects anything… you’ve made your position on letang clear

Yea yea it’s a message forum you can do whatever you want just like, look in the mirror and see how obsessed you are with this… you’d rather hate letang than like anything about the team
We've definitely been more worried about someone not on the ice lately more than we probably ever have on here, but at the same time the season ended literally a week ago. The dust hasn't even settled on an incredibly disappointing, failure of a season at that in which a lot of us (talking for sting fans not just on here but X & FB that I see saying same things) feel the coach was reason #1. Be a lot different if we were in May, June, July going on like this lol.

Someone asked today about our thoughts if Letang stayed so of course we'll give our thoughts on it same as if they asked about a player on the team.

We also have quite literally been talking a ton about the draft & who we want since they were eliminated along with talk about the apparent ownership change.
Been following this thread close for 5 years or so, (before that we barely got one full thread per season) there is often great info, hence why I love it - I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t think there’s 3-4 of you who aren’t obsessed with letang - not sure what possessed me to login today to rant about it - I won’t derail anymore
obsessed is to strong a word for me. He comes up when we talk about the team going forward (because the HC is a giant part of that), an ownership change (because a new owner coming in for any team in any sport can mean immediate change to the coaches, or management) or players like Karimov, Manza returning (we feel they were mishandled, mistreated on the ice)...

I'll say I think talk of players not reporting here because of Letang is a bit much. Pretty rare u hear that. Most of the time its because a kid/agent/family are being spoiled/entitled & wanna hand pick their team & with our history a kid is more likely to point at that as the reason not to come than our coaches.

In saying all that you can interject & speak your mind anytime. As Dave said always better to have more ppl on here talking. 2 years ago was a blast in part because we'd have a good # of ppl hop on here & talk about after huge wins, trades etc. Hope to be back like that the next 2 seasons!
 
  • Like
Reactions: davewheeler
Alot of time has been wasted on that topic. It's a large topic and huge part of this teams future. Seeing him at OHL CUP sends a strong message to me, changes are not coming. Whether players ask for trades or not come back when we think they are all remains to be seen. That's all part of this new look OHL where teams will be forced to become 4 year teams possibly with 1 or no OAs and having younger players making impacts earlier in careers. The Draft has all of a sudden become so much more important to find Now players like Edward's, This board is informative at times and how things break, someone hears something and then there is a discussion, bunch of opinions agree or disagree. Talk about players and how we see their play etc That's how a FORUM works there is some really good sources and Hockey Minds in the group just wish there were more willing to get a chat going and actually post something.. Sure we all knew there would a Shame poster supporting the coach etc but that's kinda fresh after the direction we have taken last 3 years yes I'm including the loss to London that should have never happened (that still hurts). I'm still holding on to an outside chance new owner comes in and after this draft class is selected,drops a Bomb and cleans house top to bottom. Yes including Letang! I don't hate the guy, think he has some good points, possibly a better Asst coach than a HC, just feel we would be much further along and in better spot with a real HC, Also tired of him blaming everyone else but himself for the last 3 years of underachieving.
 
Alot of time has been wasted on that topic. It's a large topic and huge part of this teams future. Seeing him at OHL CUP sends a strong message to me, changes are not coming. Whether players ask for trades or not come back when we think they are all remains to be seen. That's all part of this new look OHL where teams will be forced to become 4 year teams possibly with 1 or no OAs and having younger players making impacts earlier in careers. The Draft has all of a sudden become so much more important to find Now players like Edward's, This board is informative at times and how things break, someone hears something and then there is a discussion, bunch of opinions agree or disagree. Talk about players and how we see their play etc That's how a FORUM works there is some really good sources and Hockey Minds in the group just wish there were more willing to get a chat going and actually post something.. Sure we all knew there would a Shame poster supporting the coach etc but that's kinda fresh after the direction we have taken last 3 years yes I'm including the loss to London that should have never happened (that still hurts). I'm still holding on to an outside chance new owner comes in and after this draft class is selected,drops a Bomb and cleans house top to bottom. Yes including Letang! I don't hate the guy, think he has some good points, possibly a better Asst coach than a HC, just feel we would be much further along and in better spot with a real HC, Also tired of him blaming everyone else but himself for the last 3 years of underachieving.

Ugh, to read what I wrote and think I’m a letang defender …

Oh no, I’m about to become what I just ranted against and give my opinion of letang

Was astounded by surzycias usage down the stretch… I was sure Nick must’ve been hurt, but he wasnt

I was always angry to see edwards on the wing, but was proven wrong an annoying amount of times (might be more due to edwards being great though)

I always think I know best when to call a timeout and don’t think they’re ever used properly. But with such a young team I feel like he never used them to reset / regroup in moments of panic. Strikes me as a bit of deer in the headlights once the game has started.

The constant line juggling is frustrating but there were a lot of inconsistent efforts with how young the team was. If karimov had just been handed the minutes because of his skill, it would’ve sent a bad message to everyone, and also not help karimov himself develop, finding the balance of what minutes a kid deserves based on skill and effort changes on a week to week basis especially with rookies. I’d argue karimov learned that this year and showed how much better he can be down the stretch. I think karimov might be more of a success story this year than people here acknowledge. Handing out consistent minutes to anyone just because they have skill/potential when their effort isn’t consistent can’t be done on rebuilding teams imo.

Loved the matsos hire based on his resume, honestly thought it was obvious he was going to take over next year. Having said that, our record after he joined…. Ha, not great.

What i despise is when coaches are given their first gig in Sarnia. We should demand better / more experience/ track record unless someone rookie coach blows the brass away in an interview or methodology. I realize the term “rookie” here isn’t the truest sense of the word. I’m referring to the Haley/jeffries/galchenyuk hires (even hatcher tbh but nothing we could do about that)
 
Im not a letang hater by any means on a personal level. In fact, I ran in to him golfing and he comes across as a super nice guy!
My issue(s) with him are in player usage , development and line combinations. Also, I just don't know if his team the past few years has had an identity. As a head coach what is his style? when he was hired it was said he's a defence first type but im not too sure that's true. I'm not giving Seca and prior to him Sinclair any praise either. I think that we overhype and over evaluate our players and that's fine because we love the sting but if we aren't drafting and asset managing players properly then it explains where we are at currently.
 
  • Like
Reactions: StingUpdates
Im not a letang hater by any means on a personal level. In fact, I ran in to him golfing and he comes across as a super nice guy!
My issue(s) with him are in player usage , development and line combinations. Also, I just don't know if his team the past few years has had an identity. As a head coach what is his style? when he was hired it was said he's a defence first type but im not too sure that's true. I'm not giving Seca and prior to him Sinclair any praise either. I think that we overhype and over evaluate our players and that's fine because we love the sting but if we aren't drafting and asset managing players properly then it explains where we are at currently.

need to do way better at drafting, i give them a break on someone like lane sim because it was an ownership decision not a hockey ops decision, but their 2-6th rounds have way more missed then hits in the last 3/4 years.

Barr (they were shoping him all second half), doherty, campbell, hall, chartier

campbell is getting there but was never a top 3 round guy.

edwards wasnt scouting that was recruitment but good on them.

i did see gaughan this year and im not sure he will be much different but at least hes still a kid.

the simpson kid could be a nice get thou to be fair.

they have a good gthl guy but not sure what else they have after that.
 
need to do way better at drafting, i give them a break on someone like lane sim because it was an ownership decision not a hockey ops decision, but their 2-6th rounds have way more missed then hits in the last 3/4 years.

Barr (they were shoping him all second half), doherty, campbell, hall, chartier

campbell is getting there but was never a top 3 round guy.

edwards wasnt scouting that was recruitment but good on them.

i did see gaughan this year and im not sure he will be much different but at least hes still a kid.

the simpson kid could be a nice get thou to be fair.

they have a good gthl guy but not sure what else they have after that.
good call on this... we get so tied up on 1st rounders we forget about the other rounds which are just as, if not more important... I think that's why Sarnia continually has a bottom group of OA's year after year.
 
I think that we overhype and over evaluate our players and that's fine because we love the sting but if we aren't drafting and asset managing players properly then it explains where we are at currently.
Definitely you guys & not me. I'd never get to high on some of our players & overrate their abilities.. (joking im the worst for it)
need to do way better at drafting, i give them a break on someone like lane sim because it was an ownership decision not a hockey ops decision, but their 2-6th rounds have way more missed then hits in the last 3/4 years.

Barr (they were shoping him all second half), doherty, campbell, hall, chartier

campbell is getting there but was never a top 3 round guy.

edwards wasnt scouting that was recruitment but good on them.

i did see gaughan this year and im not sure he will be much different but at least hes still a kid.

the simpson kid could be a nice get thou to be fair.

they have a good gthl guy but not sure what else they have after that.
Definitely fair. I think Seca has done some good, but this franchise has historically been absolutely putrid at drafting in the 2nd round & its killed them. We used to always joke we wanted them to trade them away lol. They haven't gotten a good player in it since Ryan McGregor back in 2015 or 2016. Barr has some upside, but this is a make or break summer for him.

I was pretty happy with that 2022 draft at first but they definitely picked the wrong guys/failed to development them as Doherty, Campbell, Chartier were all moved for cheap, Omeri is a 7th D, Hall isn't very good & they traded Martone. Big reason why the last 2 years have stunk that I probably haven't pointed to enough.. Fischer is the only guy from the whole class on the team making an impact.

Hopeful with this recent class, but long ways to go yet before seeing if they did well in it past Di Ioiro, Edwards.
 
Prospect video #2 is of Kaden McGregor. Probably the kid I'd want most of anyone, but all indications are pointing to him going 1st to Peterborough.

Elite, powerful skater. Elite skills. Great shot. Strong. Almost nothing in his game to dislike. Gives me some Shane wright vibes in his skating, powerful strides.

Be unbelievable if he fell but not sounding likely.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Ad

Ad