Sarnia Sting 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

[stingwagoner]

A line juggle isnt coaching. Chemistry is constant, knowing linemates and it takes time not 3 shifts. Moses I'm sorry doesnt deserve 1st line minutes no way
If we had a coach players would play hard every shift go to battle for him. I don't see it, we play slow we don't move puck quick while other team is scrambling on turnovers our D brings puck back to allow good teams to set up their forechecks, we allow teams to pressure us, our 1st pass is U18 quality. Usually the D creates offense with quick ups, stretches on turnovers, 1st pass by our D is worst in league. You would think Lerang being a D would have knowledge to catch teams? we are passive, we are soft and we are worse than last year with more experience, is this Letang's goals and vision for this team because I'm impressed how bad he is making this team look.. skill or not, a team can be coached to compete, to outwork teams, to always be in any game, to play with passion etc besides a few, we have no heart, we don't play for guy beside you in room, we are playing for ourselves.

What if Peterborough beat us? Then is it or staff then?
I think Letang is good guy, his heart is there, his passion for game is there I just honestly don't think his personality demands his players to strive to be more, to go through that wall, to hunger to block shots, finish checks etc his presence and demeanor on bench wouldn't motivate me much to yo to battle for him! That leaves me wondering what besides resume, and his talk does Letang bring to this organization. The Associate coaches could be the issue too PP is embarrassing pk is getting there.
Overhaul is warranted especially when someone made choice to put Simpson on pp yesterday? That is the coaching these boys are getting? Hard to succeed

 

[StingUpdates]

I'm at least glad letang did the media today. As @JAMER said he hasn't been doing it much this year & with where this team is right now if he sent out 2 players I would've been really annoyed by that.

But some of those answers weren't it for me. Tired of him saying "we don't have that star talent" or "we need more from certain guys" like you're the coach. GET IT from those guys. Other teams & coaches are getting it from less talented players than Brown, Kostuch, Karimov, Barr.

Have some accountability. Say my staff & I need to do better. We need to guide these kids in the right direction. We need to get them going for start of games. We need to do extra work to fix the PP. Don't just pin it on them. Even if you feel it's on them put it on yourself & the assistants.

This is a big week for Letang. If this team stinks it up next weekend I think a lot of Sting fans will be thinking how you guys are. Can't miss the playoffs again. No way.

 

[JAMER]

I'm at least glad letang did the media today. As @JAMER said he hasn't been doing it much this year & with where this team is right now if he sent out 2 players I would've been really annoyed by that.

But some of those answers weren't it for me. Tired of him saying "we don't have that star talent" or "we need more from certain guys" like you're the coach. GET IT from those guys. Other teams & coaches are getting it from less talented players than Brown, Kostuch, Karimov, Barr.

Have some accountability. Say my staff & I need to do better. We need to guide these kids in the right direction. We need to get them going for start of games. We need to do extra work to fix the PP. Don't just pin it on them. Even if you feel it's on them put it on yourself & the assistants.

This is a big week for Letang. If this team stinks it up next weekend I think a lot of Sting fans will be thinking how you guys are. Can't miss the playoffs again. No way.

Just finished watching the Letang presser. Pretty disappointed that he put all the blame on the players like wtf. Your the coach of the 2nd youngest team take some responsibility. You have the worst PP and one of the worst PKs it's not all the kids fault. I have a hard time thinking that these guys are going to wanna play for a coach that dumps on them like that. Also we're 1-10 in are last 11 why is Letang not more upset.

 

[StingUpdates]

Not to change subjects but just tweeted this & thought I'd put it here too. This has been something I'm sure ppl have picked up on with me this season lol, but I really do think this league has an issue with the stripes.

That Filak "hook" was absurdly soft today. That Andersen "charge" was a perfect hit. They even had to talk about it because they didn't know what to call it. Just saw a big hit & wanted to call it. They missed a blatant cross check to the face by Young. Filak clean hit and then gets dumped by Andonovski - no call. Minute later Filak does it back - called.

Then the rest of the game guys were giving cheap slashes and punches and they just watched it. Easiest way for a game to get totally out of hand. Not to mention these fricken reviews are getting ridiculous. Games are taking nearly 3 hours..

It ain't just our games either. Been watching a lot of the league this yr and I've been dumbfounded all season by calls made & missed. Really ruining the product IMO.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858306212262998483

 

[davewheeler]

I'm at least glad letang did the media today. As @JAMER said he hasn't been doing it much this year & with where this team is right now if he sent out 2 players I would've been really annoyed by that.

But some of those answers weren't it for me. Tired of him saying "we don't have that star talent" or "we need more from certain guys" like you're the coach. GET IT from those guys. Other teams & coaches are getting it from less talented players than Brown, Kostuch, Karimov, Barr.

Have some accountability. Say my staff & I need to do better. We need to guide these kids in the right direction. We need to get them going for start of games. We need to do extra work to fix the PP. Don't just pin it on them. Even if you feel it's on them put it on yourself & the assistants.

This is a big week for Letang. If this team stinks it up next weekend I think a lot of Sting fans will be thinking how you guys are. Can't miss the playoffs again. No way.

lol my last post about Letang but he also had those interview vibes during the world jrs ... I forget his exact quote but it was something like the team got lucky bounces last year and didnt this year... which isnt bad but still imo not the right thing to say. I honestly feel like Letang would learn a lot if he came on this forum and read some posts.... makes me think no one in the organization is speaking to him about stuff. Imagine being Seca and making trades for Kostuch and drafting Karimov all to see them buried in the lineup... If im Letang I start tinkering with 4 forwards on the power play.. its bizarre he tinkers with the lineup 247 but doesnt touch the on ice strategy what-so-ever.

 

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[stingwagoner]

Does anyone know the responsibility of Jefferey? Just from this year to last he is running special teams and maybe last year Letang had haley on that which was actually better than this year let's start with jeffery pp has to get 1-2goals a game if getting that many chances. Imagine if we did, the confidence we would have that Carrie's over to 5/5. DS needs to atleast bring in a strict Special teams specialist with a tonne of experience and start with a associate coach change not too drastic but needed. And finally Bring in an experienced D coach been saying it all last year it's going to hurt us and guess what is totally is.
Bodin needs a tonne of coaching, hurt has regressed, young needs coaching and I think bridgewater and barr 1000% would benefit from a very experienced sound D coach. This is the OHL there should be coaches that would love the opportunity other than local guys.
Hoping there is some changes before Christmas so we can make the playoffs

 

[Fastpace]

Just finished watching the Letang presser. Pretty disappointed that he put all the blame on the players like wtf. Your the coach of the 2nd youngest team take some responsibility. You have the worst PP and one of the worst PKs it's not all the kids fault. I have a hard time thinking that these guys are going to wanna play for a coach that dumps on them like that. Also we're 1-10 in are last 11 why is Letang not more upset.

I just think this 2nd youngest team have experienced their best learning lesson by playing 3 top teams and in three days, and the coach did not need to say much, there are things they need to learn on their own. We can't expect young players playing like old players game by turning on a switch, I do feel the frustration and how the patience is running thin, thought. With patience, what other teams are doing to them today, you will see the Sting do it right back at them in a year's or two's time, Cheers ! IMHO

 

[davewheeler]

I just think this 2nd youngest team have experienced their best learning lesson by playing 3 top teams and in three days, and the coach did not need to say much, there are things they need to learn on their own. We can't expect young players playing like old players game by turning on a switch, I do feel the frustration and how the patience is running thin, thought. With patience, what other teams are doing to them today, you will see the Sting do it right back at them in a year's or two's time, Cheers ! IMHO

Everyone in here expected The Buzz to lose quite a few games this year and are ok with that for the most part .... But its how they are losing these games - examples have been posted - and the semi-regression of many players on the team thats sounding the alarm bells. This team next year still isn't good unless many players take the next step which hasn't happened so far this year.

 

[Fastpace]

Everyone in here expected The Buzz to lose quite a few games this year and are ok with that for the most part .... But its how they are losing these games - examples have been posted - and the semi-regression of many players on the team thats sounding the alarm bells. This team next year still isn't good unless many players take the next step which hasn't happened so far this year.

They will, take the extra steps, give them some time. The development of young teams and players has never been possible without a period of trial and error.

 

[stingwagoner]

We are still waiting for Letang to take his next step in growing and becoming that coach he hopefully still has inside. 4th year I'm not seeing any growth its same old. Still have fingers crossed he will take responsibility for not growing as a coach and recognizing players strengths and push his players to want more. All in his hands ans looks like he doesn't kmow what else to do. Let's address PP and now PK and then finding line combos that can work with.

 

[StingUpdates]

Kapageridis commits to Vermont. Not surprising. Still doesn't mean he can't play here next year or maybe the yr after depending what season he committed for. There were 4or5 kids today who signed in the CHL including one in Erie.

This is shaping up to be a terrible trade deadline lol. There was a bunch of deals including some heavy hitters before the season even started & now top teams are getting "free" additions.

Unfortunately for the Sting not really sure they'll have anyone teams will want. Filak/Doucette/Surzycia aren't elite OAs. Wainwright, Young would obviously get a ton of interest if available, but not sure that's likely. Maybe a team will want Franceschetti or Moses just as a 4th line grinder? Wouldn't get any significant back in that kind of deal though.

One issue with getting a Kosiba or Beamish over is our top-9 Fs are pretty locked. Not saying they are an elite top-9 but would not move any of Brown, Kostuch, Karimov, Doucette, Filak, Wainwright, Di Iorio, Edwards to the 4th line & they just gave up a 4th for Johnston so I doubt he'd be put on line 4 & they won't just get rid of him after spending a decent asset. So unless they view either as a legit T6 upgrade might not see us do anything with them.

 

[stingwagoner]

Johnston, moses forsure on table

 

[davewheeler]

Kapageridis commits to Vermont. Not surprising. Still doesn't mean he can't play here next year or maybe the yr after depending what season he committed for. There were 4or5 kids today who signed in the CHL including one in Erie.

This is shaping up to be a terrible trade deadline lol. There was a bunch of deals including some heavy hitters before the season even started & now top teams are getting "free" additions.

Unfortunately for the Sting not really sure they'll have anyone teams will want. Filak/Doucette/Surzycia aren't elite OAs. Wainwright, Young would obviously get a ton of interest if available, but not sure that's likely. Maybe a team will want Franceschetti or Moses just as a 4th line grinder? Wouldn't get any significant back in that kind of deal though.

One issue with getting a Kosiba or Beamish over is our top-9 Fs are pretty locked. Not saying they are an elite top-9 but would not move any of Brown, Kostuch, Karimov, Doucette, Filak, Wainwright, Di Iorio, Edwards to the 4th line & they just gave up a 4th for Johnston so I doubt he'd be put on line 4 & they won't just get rid of him after spending a decent asset. So unless they view either as a legit T6 upgrade might not see us do anything with them.

Just my opinion but if it meant getting Kosiba I would not hesitate to trade or send Filak and Doucette to the bottom line lol. Karimov is basically already on the 4th line.

 

[StingUpdates]

Just my opinion but if it meant getting Kosiba I would not hesitate to trade or send Filak and Doucette to the bottom line lol. Karimov is basically already on the 4th line.

Yah it's tough. I totally see that point. Long term you'd rather have the kid then not because u don't wanna upset someone's feelings.

But same time they are all OHL T9 Fs & Filak, Doucette been T6 back 2 back seasons.

Realistically Johnston should be the one moved for it. But could they get similar value to what they just paid?

 

[stingwagoner]

We need an identity that's forsure. Kitchener is best coached team in league, showed yesterday don't have to have team full of studs to really play great hockey especially as a team. We just don't don't have that guidance or atleast staff doesn't demand it.
Next 3 week are huge for this team and could make or break the direction this team can go