Samsonov's Replacement?

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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They can't score more than 1 playoff goal in games 7s with the current depth and we think they'll be able to do so with a better goalie?

No but with a better goalie you win that game 7 1-0 instead of allowing a soft goal about 80 seconds after Nylander scores..

Not to mention with a better goalie you aren't even playing Boston because a better goalie doesn't shit the bed for 4 straight months and piss away a MINIMUM of 15 points.
 
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LEAFANFORLIFE23

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I would prefer Plan A there. Woll/Hildeby offer enough upside that I'd rather not invest big dollars in a goalie, especially until Tavares is off the books. Goaltending is a need, but there are lots of others that take precedence (namely remaking the D).

So your plan is to go with a #1 that while talented is made of glass, and a backup that has yet to play an NHL game.

You are fired.
 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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Mirtle has recently confirmed the front office sees Woll as part of the plan, so they likely need a vet on a 1-3 year deal capable of eating up games (at least 50ish), especially given Wolls injury history.

Saros likely the Wild card, but he's going to get like 7-8ish million long term, so that's only happening if a core piece is moved out this offseason

Markstrom has 2 years left.
 
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So your plan is to go with a #1 that while talented is made of glass, and a backup that has yet to play an NHL game.

You are fired.
:laugh:...No, I'm saying Woll and Hildeby as 2/3 offer some upside to begin taking a larger share of the games over the next couple years.

I'd rather not invest +$8 million in a workhorse #1. Would rather go with more of a 1A type on a cheaper, shorter-term deal.
 

RunItBackAgain

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You aren't winning a cup with those guys as your #1.

Adain Hill happens about once every 10 years on average and he happened last year so It's going to be awhile
I agree with you in premise but what you’re talking about is the gamblers fallacy. The odds don’t chance year to year, like rolling the dice. Just because you rolled 7 20 times in a row doesn’t mean it’s less likely you roll another 7 next roll.

And for the record I’m going for Markstrom with retention. He is in the same boat as Tanev for me and I think both of them can help us win tough playoff games for the next 2 years. After that hopefully we have some future pieces/plans in place to take over.
 

MajorLeaf

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Leafs should consider signing Anthony Stolarz from Florida as back up and just roll with Justin Woll to see what the Leafs got.

Goaltending is such a crap shoot these days and by the trade deadline they know neither player is good enough then teams like Nashville may trade a goalie with 1 year left like Saros to help for playoffs.

Goalies tend to be easier to trade for value wise.
 

darrylsittler27

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If we had better than Samsonov, we win that series but not the next one anyway. We do need a vet upgrade but not at too steep a price. We also need someone to play with Reilly but I don't see any goalie who can get us past Florida or Nyr. So, Gibson maybe or Markstrom on retention. Calgary doest need to pay him to miss the playoffs for 2 years.
 

hockeywiz542

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Treliving will undoubtedly turn over every stone. Perhaps doing so will reveal one of the very few starters available this summer. Jacob Markstrom (who has a NMC) and Juuse Saros make some sense as trade targets. Their respective teams, the Calgary Flames and Nashville Predators, aren’t in a position to contend immediately and each have younger goalies on the path to becoming NHL starters.

Acquiring notable pieces from within your own division is a difficult proposition for any NHL team. But that shouldn’t prevent Treliving from understanding the cost of acquiring Linus Ullmark from the Bruins. Ullmark has one more year on his deal with a $5 million cap hit and, with Jeremy Swayman’s emergence as a starter, seems all but assured of being shipped out this offseason. Ullmark has a modified no-trade clause with a 15-team no-trade list.

Yet that aforementioned cost associated with acquiring a big-ticket goalie might be too large to swallow. Goaltending is the most volatile position in the NHL. Anyone who has watched any of the Leafs starting goaltenders since 2016-17 will tell you so.

The pieces that will need to be shipped out to acquire any of the high-profile goalies won’t be insignificant. We’re talking big risk and (potentially) big reward when it comes to the starting goalie position. There are just so few sure things league-wide.

That leads us to cheaper and safer options. Signing a goalie to share the load with Woll could provide close to comparable results as a true starter might while reducing the risk that comes with being locked into a longer deal.

Laurent Brossoit, Anthony Stolarz and Alex Nedeljkovic deserve consideration as UFA.
 

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