Value of: Sammy Blais

[TGWL]

Vesey and prospect + should be enuf
Jones is a freebie to cover eating only small retain x 3


Please contribute a meaningful reply.
If you disagree, fine.
Substantiate.
Otherwise, don't work vs free speech

You want them to retain for 3 years. No, no. It isn't enough. Vesey does nothing for the Ducks. The prospect you're offering does nothing. Again, Jones is the only decent part of that and that's even if they want him. They sure don't want him enough to retain on Vatrano and just hand him to us. You can't ask somebody else for a meaningful rely when you just "disagree" and use that as a way to backup your points.

 

[Weltschmerz]

Vesey and prospect + should be enuf
Jones is a freebie to cover eating only small retain x 3


Please contribute a meaningful reply.
If you disagree, fine.
Substantiate.
Otherwise, don't work vs free speech

retaining 3 years will cost you big, doesn't matter how much

thats 3 better deals they can't do

 

[BleedBlue14]

1. because it is profitable and works to accelerate ANA getting to where it can exit rebuild.
2, Stolarz is expiring, no 'long term' negative
3. Vatrano is 3 full seasons [including this one] retained, but amount retained is not a heavy # and the reasonable bet Vat hits 30 at least once to garner upgrade to a 2nd is worth it.

But you’re offering fodder prospects who are unlikely to amount to anything more than a guy who may play 50 NHL games.

They have Klingberg, and Shattenkirk as UFAs. You want 3 years of retention from a rebuilding team you’re paying at minimum a first and a good prospect.

The notion of retaining on Stolarz is just silly. And the notion of retaining 3 years regardless of how trivial the salary amount is for that glut of average prospects is equally as silly.

Your reasoning for the basis of a deal isn’t too absurd. But the framework of the deal is way off. And the retention is asinine and it’s what else they have on their roster and the stage of where they’re at.

 

[Guttersniped]

Your vote is acknowledged and appreciated.
I can promise you Lindy + Goodrow will not be cheap, and given current narrative in multiple threads about MIN lacking size/toughness [most players 5'10 or less, I thought I read?], they are a good match for now and also to builld with if you don't wanna flip.

My main point is the Wild have worse cap issues than the Rangers due to the massive dead cap space they have from the Parise/Suter buyouts.

They wouldn’t be a trade where they take on 6.6m cap unless maybe it was for a higher end top 6 forward scorer. Then maybe they would figure out how to move Dumba in a different move or whatever.

Goodrow isn’t that at all though and good luck moving him for futures. The Wild isn’t desperate for defense so they aren’t taking Goodrow too in a deal in Lindgren.

You’re proposing a deal that wildly benefits the Rangers, assuming they actually want to move Lindgren, but doesn’t work for the other team at all.

Be grateful that Guerin blew a bunch of the 2m of cap space he got from dumping Jost on Reaves, the Wild already did the Rangers a big favor in terms of cap space.

 

[Vitto79]

He hasn’t scored a goal as a ranger so while I like his grit he won’t get much

Probably just keep him

 

[bernmeister]

Not for nothing, Bern, but neither of those deals nor the odd tangent about Kravtsov being communist Jean Rattelle have much of anything to do with Sammy Blais.

I responded at post 11 that Blais is unavailable for trade b'c we have to deal Goodrow
so pertinent and no thread hijacking

Also, wtf Krav a commie and JR ????
just brought up JR relative to VK and similar build

You want them to retain for 3 years. No, no. It isn't enough. Vesey does nothing for the Ducks. The prospect you're offering does nothing. Again, Jones is the only decent part of that and that's even if they want him. They sure don't want him enough to retain on Vatrano and just hand him to us. You can't ask somebody else for a meaningful rely when you just "disagree" and use that as a way to backup your points.

Again, how much are they retaining per yr for 3 yrs?
Sure they'd like more but Jones for 3 yrs retaining is fine and Vesey + quality prospect + freebies is not unreasonable.

 

[bernmeister]

retaining 3 years will cost you big, doesn't matter how much

thats 3 better deals they can't do

arguably it is only 1 opportunity cost of retaining in a given year, not 3

But you’re offering fodder prospects who are unlikely to amount to anything more than a guy who may play 50 NHL games.

They have Klingberg, and Shattenkirk as UFAs. You want 3 years of retention from a rebuilding team you’re paying at minimum a first and a good prospect.

The notion of retaining on Stolarz is just silly. And the notion of retaining 3 years regardless of how trivial the salary amount is for that glut of average prospects is equally as silly.

Your reasoning for the basis of a deal isn’t too absurd. But the framework of the deal is way off. And the retention is asinine and it’s what else they have on their roster and the stage of where they’re at.

will review this w/mo time this w'e
thanks

 

[Mrfenn92]

I responded at post 11 that Blais is unavailable for trade b'c we have to deal Goodrow
so pertinent and no thread hijacking

Also, wtf Krav a commie and JR ????
just brought up JR relative to VK and similar build


Again, how much are they retaining per yr for 3 yrs?
Sure they'd like more but Jones for 3 yrs retaining is fine and Vesey + quality prospect + freebies is not unreasonable.

Give Anaheim a first round pick plus for them to retain.
Vesey is nothing. They have plenty of lefty dmen prospects who project better or the same as jones. So yes it’s unreasonable that you keep thinking this is a good fair deal for the ducks.