Value of: Sam Reinhart

[Aladyyn]

I think he'll be a very good player when he's 23-24, right now he's purely complementary, good around the net, smart all over the ice though he's not as good as some think defensively yet, very good passer but still a below average NHL skater and not strong. He absolutely needs to increase his speed over the next few years or he will be a second liner on a mediocre team or a third liner on a good team.

Oh no he had 2 bad games in a row for the first time in the last 2 season, woe is us, he'll never be good

I hate this reactionary bs

 

[SnoopDogg]

Tanev straight up. Helps both teams

But the Sabres aren't going to trade Reinhart

Surely you mean Tanev++ right?

 

[CanuckCity]

Yah as much as id love him on van dont see how it would work. Id offer tanev + baertschi but im pretty sure they want LD? In which case Juolevi or *potentially* Tryamkin would be our only in, but theyd both need to prove significantly more.

 

[vipernsx]

Look at others his age and younger. He isnt living up to all the hype i've heard of him.

Stop using Eklund as your hype source. Other than the 1OA and the guy playing on McDavid's wing, who's blowing the doors off him?
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2014e.html

Taking a long time to become an elite player?...He turned 21 last month.

RIGHT!!! I get it, "the league's getting younger", but C'mon.

A long time? He's a sophomore LMAO

Hey you better show up during the ELC or else you're not getting extended! LOL

 

[Blueangel1891]

Surely you mean Tanev++ right?

Why would we add to one of the best defensive D in the league, right handed and signed longterm to a fantastic contract? Do you know the value of those players? Look at the Larsson trade, who is worse than Tanev, and Reinhart is great but no Taylor Hall either

Tanev for Reinhart is fair value

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Why would we add to one of the best defensive D in the league, right handed and signed longterm to a fantastic contract? Do you know the value of those players? Look at the Larsson trade, who is worse than Tanev, and Reinhart is great but no Taylor Hall either

Tanev for Reinhart is fair value

No it isn't. Being a RHD adds nothing to his value to Buffalo as we have Ristolainen and Bogosian signed long term on the right side. Tanev is 6 years older then Reinhart. Tanev is signed til 2020, Reinharts ELC isn't up until 2018 and has a minimum team control until 2022. Tanevs a great #2, but not worth Reinhart.

And I'm not even the biggest Reinhart fan. I think he'll be a solid 65 point two way player who is very cerebral but he won't be a ppg player. Still a valuable player that every team would love in their top 6.

I'd be interested in a deal centered around Reinhart and Hanifin, with Carolina giving up a small add.

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

Florida takes that. Buffalo does not.

No, Florida does not.

 

[Djp]

Why would we add to one of the best defensive D in the league, right handed and signed longterm to a fantastic contract? Do you know the value of those players? Look at the Larsson trade, who is worse than Tanev, and Reinhart is great but no Taylor Hall either

Tanev for Reinhart is fair value

No IIRC not fair value....Tanev is not a #1 Dman or #1 potential which is what it will cost.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Tanev is a #2 dman so its good value in a vacuum but Buffalo rightfully holds on to the young player.

What I find funny is people comparing younger or similar age players outscoring Reinhart. Do people forget this is the best two-way forward of his ENTIRE draft, lmao. Reinhart is Toews 2.0 in the making. His I.Q is through the roof in every zone, hes just not flashy usually making the right or subtle plays but is player you win with. If im Buffalo I dont trade Reinhart unless a top pairing potential dman is coming back(provorov, hanafin ect..)

 

[nickschultzfan]

Reinhart is a slightly-bigger, right-shot Granlund with a better scoring touch.

Valuable, but not the Hype-Monster he's made out to be.

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Reinhart is a slightly-bigger, right-shot Granlund with a better scoring touch.

Valuable, but not the Hype-Monster he's made out to be.

So false it isn't funny. Reinhart is much better and worth far more then Mikael Granlund. That's just ridiculous.

 

[Uberpecker]

Reinhart is a slightly-bigger, right-shot Granlund with a better scoring touch.

Valuable, but not the Hype-Monster he's made out to be.

Funny you should mention Granlund while calling another player over-hyped.

That being said, a younger, bigger, higher-scoring Granlund sounds like a pretty good player to me. Especially if you take pre-hype-implosion Granlund as the point of reference.

 

[KingTux]

Hanifin ?

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Hanifin ?

That's a player I'd be interested in if I'm moving Reinhart.

Hanifin+2nd/prospect for Reinhart+mid round pick/lesser prospect.

 

[nickschultzfan]

So false it isn't funny. Reinhart is much better and worth far more then Mikael Granlund. That's just ridiculous.

Or you just forgot the perception of Granlund when he was Reinhart's age. Former #1 ranked prospect in the World. Hero of the Finnish World Championship. He put up 41 points in 63 games his Sophomore year.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Hanifin ?

That's a scary trade. But one which probably makes CAR and BUF better long term.

 

[Cotton]

Why would we add to one of the best defensive D in the league, right handed and signed longterm to a fantastic contract? Do you know the value of those players? Look at the Larsson trade, who is worse than Tanev, and Reinhart is great but no Taylor Hall either

Tanev for Reinhart is fair value

I'm tired of seeing the Hall/Larsson trade used an example of "the cost" for a top 4 D, it isn't. That was a bad trade in a vacuum and everyone knew it, it made sense for NJ/Edmonton specifically. Mostly because Edmonton didn't get Subban and was desperate.

That's a player I'd be interested in if I'm moving Reinhart.

Hanifin+2nd/prospect for Reinhart+mid round pick/lesser prospect.

If Reinhart was moved for Hanifin I doubt their would be +'s on either. But Hanifin is more valuable.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Why would we add to one of the best defensive D in the league, right handed and signed longterm to a fantastic contract? Do you know the value of those players? Look at the Larsson trade, who is worse than Tanev, and Reinhart is great but no Taylor Hall either

Tanev for Reinhart is fair value

It's really not. Reinhart has Toews/Kopitar/Bergeron potential. He potted 23 goals last year and was one of just two positive possession players on the Sabres last year (the other was Evander "shoot from literally anywhere, and often" Kane) as a rookie.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Or you just forgot the perception of Granlund when he was Reinhart's age. Former #1 ranked prospect in the World. Hero of the Finnish World Championship. He put up 41 points in 63 games his Sophomore year.

Granlund was never billed as a two-way player - not on any large scale. He was being hyped as an amazing offensive prospect, and that's all. It was all about his playmaking ability.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Granlund was never billed as a two-way player - not on any large scale. He was being hyped as an amazing offensive prospect, and that's all. It was all about his playmaking ability.

Well Granlund IS a good two-way player.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Hanfin is worth more than Sam imo

 

[AustonsNostrils]

Tanev is a #2 dman so its good value in a vacuum but Buffalo rightfully holds on to the young player.

What I find funny is people comparing younger or similar age players outscoring Reinhart. Do people forget this is the best two-way forward of his ENTIRE draft, lmao. Reinhart is Toews 2.0 in the making. His I.Q is through the roof in every zone, hes just not flashy usually making the right or subtle plays but is player you win with. If im Buffalo I dont trade Reinhart unless a top pairing potential dman is coming back(provorov, hanafin ect..)

That's true but the unknown is does he reach that potential? Buffalo is putting together a talented team, Reinhart's stats are a product of playing on the #1 PP unit and with either Eichel and ROR - he is smart and deft with the stick, the vast majority of his goals have been from in front of the net.

As a Sabres fan I'm not for trading him, I do think he will be a very valuable player in a few years. He's not immune from criticism though but he's a player you can't criticize on the Sabres board without people getting very defensive.

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

I'm tired of seeing the Hall/Larsson trade used an example of "the cost" for a top 4 D, it isn't. That was a bad trade in a vacuum and everyone knew it, it made sense for NJ/Edmonton specifically. Mostly because Edmonton didn't get Subban and was desperate.




If Reinhart was moved for Hanifin I doubt their would be +'s on either. But Hanifin is more valuable.

How do you figure? Hanifin is playing 17 minutes a game, that's 3rd pairing minutes. Reinhart is more proven as of now, was a higher draft pick and more heralded coming into the league. I'm not saying I'd expect a big piece with Hanifin for Reinhart but at this point I'd say Reinhart is worth slightly more.

 

[M2Beezy]

Reinhart for Tanev Grandlund and 2018 3rd (deeper draft)

 

[stokes84]

Duchene for Reinhart + Foligno?

Yes please