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Reinhart i guess. Two of the more overrated forwards in the league though, imo.
Reinhart is the most underrated player in the league...
As for the poll, I think it's a little unfair towards Sam to make it just about points. He has an abnormally low 5on5 sh%, played on a much much worse offensive team, and had the lowest puck priority on his PP unit. Statistically, his QoT was the lowest of all Sabres forwards. In terms of xG the Sabres were a bottom 3 team when he wasn't on the ice and top 3 when he was. His statistical impact in this regard was comparable to Patrice Bergeron (who had a bit of a down year, but still).
That said, Guentzel is obviously a great player too. To me it comes down to how Housley utilizes Reinhart. If Sam plays C I'd go with him. If he stays at wing, I'd go Guentzel.
It's not just about points. At least, I hope people are considering more than just points when they're trying to determine the better forward.
Points aren't everything, but these guys are 2 primarily offensive forwards who can play both center and wing and the point separation between the two was pretty extreme.
Sam is a defense first forward. He plays a possession game and while he gets his points it hasn't seemed to be a priority. His shot was so bad they called him Muffin his rookie year, and most of his goals came off redirection and plays where he put himself in the right place at the right time. He will never streak up the ice and dangle through defenders, every time he's on the ice it's like a chess match, he's just always in a good position. Even when he gets caught in a bad position he seems to make the best of it.
Sam is a defense first forward. He plays a possession game and while he gets his points it hasn't seemed to be a priority. His shot was so bad they called him Muffin his rookie year, and most of his goals came off redirection and plays where he put himself in the right place at the right time. He will never streak up the ice and dangle through defenders, every time he's on the ice it's like a chess match, he's just always in a good position. Even when he gets caught in a bad position he seems to make the best of it.
Guentzel especially if he plays with Crosby all year. I think Reinhart hasnt lived up to expectations and while he's a good 2nd line player he won't be much more then that
Well you're completely wrong...
Guentzel would be a nobody if he didn't play with Crosby
The guentzel overrating is out of control.
Yeah, Crosby sure elevated Guentzel into leading the entire AHL in production before he got called up as a pure rookie. Damn Crosby, sneaking onto the ice for WBS!
Or maybe Guentzel is legitimately good? No way it can be that.
Not as "legitametly good" as Reinhart. It's overrating. Not that he is suddenly better than a 21 year old 2C with potential.
The guentzel overrating is out of control.